Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013

Genetically Engineered Cannabis yes or no?


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Harrekin

Well-Known Member
no he's right you are fucking stupid

worked out who made the fish tomatoes yet?

or worked out that gmo tomatoes arent produced anymore?
You can't even rewrite something in a more simple fashion for him to understand.

He also thinks you can grow normal crops in the desert without infrastructure, you can't grow crops in the US without infrastructure for fuck sake.
 

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
You can't even rewrite something in a more simple fashion for him to understand.

He also thinks you can grow normal crops in the desert without infrastructure, you can't grow crops in the US without infrastructure for fuck sake.
yeah his africa rant was pretty erm informative...

i wonder what particularly green corner he lived in?
 

Ninjabowler

Well-Known Member
no he's right you are fucking stupid

worked out who made the fish tomatoes yet?

or worked out that gmo tomatoes arent produced anymore?
I posted the answers to both of those questions, and it ends up being monsanto in the end cause theyre greedy dirty evil vampires that would suck anyone dry, kinda like you bud, gagwarrior :):):)
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
One thing thats becoming vastly more obvious is that all the bleeding heart lefties don't really give a shit about places like Africa either, I bet over there they'd literally sell their children for GM drought resistant crops, which will never happen if the "caring lefties" get their way.
you know you need pretty expensive, fancy machinery to mass cultivate crops, right? machinery that they generally do not have and can't afford, right?

we'd be better off teaching them sustainable, local agriculture techniques to be honest.
 

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
I posted the answers to both of those questions, and it ends up being monsanto in the end cause theyre greedy dirty evil vampires that would suck anyone dry, kinda like you bud, gagwarrior :):):)
brilliant i love this part

"or worked out that gmo tomatoes arent produced anymore?"

answer =
"monsanto in the end cause theyre greedy dirty evil vampires that would suck anyone dry,"

classic


flavr savr tomato
Economic difficulties forced Calgene to withdraw the Flavr Savr from grocery shelves in 1997
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/dna/pop_genetic_gallery/index.html

The tomato was withdrawn from the market by 1997 out of safety concerns
http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/campaign/genetically-engineered-food/crops/other-resources/a-failed-technology/

As a result of Calgene's business woes, production of the Flavor Savr tomatoes ceased. Sometime later, Monsanto took over Calgene.
http://www.brighthub.com/science/genetics/articles/27236.aspx

fish tomato

Q: Were fish genes ever inserted into a tomato?

A: Yes. Here (.pdf) is the approval for field test from the USDA. This document contains quite a bit of information about the “Fish Tomato” (a.ka. tomato; antifreeze gene; staphylococcal Protein A) and how DNA Plant Technology Corporation produced it. (They sold the technology to J.R. Simplot Company in 1995 and the company ceased R&D operations in 2002).
http://genomicgastronomy.com/blog/fish-tomato/

Fish Tomato

Another company, DNA Plant Technology, developed another GM tomato that was not economically successful. The company combined genes from an Arctic flounder with tomato DNA in an attempt to create cold-hardy tomato plants. The project was abandoned and the so-called fish tomatoes were never marketed. The controversial transgenic GM processes use genes from one species to be inserted into another species, such as fish genes into tomatoes, creating mutated, damaged DNA and interrupted, unnatural DNA sequences.
Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/542818-disadvantages-of-gm-tomatoes/#ixzz2JUpsb6qw
Fish Tomato

Another company, DNA Plant Technology, developed another GM tomato that was not economically successful. The company combined genes from an Arctic flounder with tomato DNA in an attempt to create cold-hardy tomato plants. The project was abandoned and the so-called fish tomatoes were never marketed. The controversial transgenic GM processes use genes from one species to be inserted into another species, such as fish genes into tomatoes, creating mutated, damaged DNA and interrupted, unnatural DNA sequences.
Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/542818-disadvantages-of-gm-tomatoes/#ixzz2JUpsb6qw

DNA plant technology
DNA Plant Technology
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DNA Plant Technology Corporation Former type Public (NASDAQ: DNAP)
Industry Biotechnology
Defunct 2002

DNA Plant Technology was an early pioneer in applying transgenic biotechnology to problems in agriculture. The company was founded in Cinnamonson, New Jersey. In 1994, their headquarters moved to Oakland, California.[1] Some of the plants and products they developed included Vine sweet mini peppers, the Fish tomato and Y1 Tobacco.

In the mid 1980s, DNAP attempted to use somaclonal variation with corn to produce buttery-tasting popcorn without the need to add butter.[2] In 1993, DNAP purchased the Freshworld premium fruit and vegetable brand from Du Pont for a mixture of shares, cash and intellectual rights valued at over $30 million.[3]

In 2002, Bionova shut down DNA Plant Technology.[4]
Contents

1 Major works
1.1 Fish tomato
1.2 Discovery of gene silencing
2 Legal controversy
3 References

Major works
Fish tomato

In 1991, DNA Plant Technology applied for and were granted permission to conduct a field test permit for their transgenic fish tomato product (tomato; antifreeze gene; staphylococcal Protein A) from the USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service.[5] This product remains controversial[6] in the history of biotechnology, because an antifreeze gene isolated from an arctic flounder was transgenically inserted into a tomato in an attempt to create a frost-tolerant tomato. Although this product was tested in a greenhouse, and may have been tested in the field, it was never commercialized.

In 1995, DNA Plant Technology unveiled a second generation of a different transgenic tomato and served it at a meeting of its shareholders.[7] That same year, DNA Plant Technology sold its wholly owned subsidiary called to Frost Technology Corporation to Simplot.[8]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_Plant_Technology


you've been told all of this yet you still managed to go out misread your own source and still get it all wrong

you must have had a lifetime of practice to beable to field this level of fucking stupidity
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
i'd assume you're lumping me into some "GMO fence sitter" or "proceed with caution on GMO" crowd then.
yes.

with a subcategory of Troll.

i do agree, that fresh wholesome food from small farmers is the best choice anyone can make, but conversely, mandating that everyone must live in Portland is unrealistic.

mass produced processed foods are generally crap, and gigafarm produce is invariably substandard, but without some method of producing the needed quantities for the urban Eloi, what will us Morlocks eat when the sun goes down?
 

Ninjabowler

Well-Known Member
I lived there and if those tards would just plant some seeds theyd all have food so dont give me that shit. Anything will grow in africa. Most of the blacks out of the major cites have the space to plant but just dont do it. I could post some amazing pics of african gardens but you morons arent worth the time. Africa doesnt need GMO seeds, theyre bad enough off as it is, they need less coruption and better education and infrastructure. Whatever side of the political system your on has no relevance in africa you dumb shit.
You can't even rewrite something in a more simple fashion for him to understand.

He also thinks you can grow normal crops in the desert without infrastructure, you can't grow crops in the US without infrastructure for fuck sake.
brilliant i love this part

"or worked out that gmo tomatoes arent produced anymore?"

answer =
"monsanto in the end cause theyre greedy dirty evil vampires that would suck anyone dry,"

classic


flavr savr tomato


http://www.pbs.org/wnet/dna/pop_genetic_gallery/index.html



http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/campaign/genetically-engineered-food/crops/other-resources/a-failed-technology/



http://www.brighthub.com/science/genetics/articles/27236.aspx

fish tomato



http://genomicgastronomy.com/blog/fish-tomato/



Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/542818-disadvantages-of-gm-tomatoes/#ixzz2JUpsb6qw


Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/542818-disadvantages-of-gm-tomatoes/#ixzz2JUpsb6qw

DNA plant technology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_Plant_Technology


you've been told all of this yet you still managed to go out misread your own source and still get it all wrong

you must have had a lifetime of practice to beable to field this level of fucking stupidity

Here you go gag warrior, thanks for the old news. Monsanto owns that fish tomato dunce.

Calgene, the tomatoes’ creator-in-chief (now a part of Monsanto), voluntarily conducted three 28-day rat feeding studies. Before I share the gory details, I must commend the Calgene scientists who were committed to transparency and full disclosure with the FDA. Unlike all other subsequent voluntary submissions from biotech firms to the agency, Calgene provided detailed feeding study data and full reports. Dr. Belinda Martineau, one of Calgene’s tomato makers, writes in First Fruit about their commitment to an open process while they attempted to introduce the world’s first GM food crop.Calgene tested two separate Flavr Savr tomato lines. Both had the same gene inserted into the same type of tomato. The process of insertion and the subsequent cloning of the cells into GM plants can cause lots of unique and unpredicted consequences. The two lines, therefore, were notconsidered identical.

monsanto is full of cocksucking vampires, thats why you like them ;)
 

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
Here you go gag warrior, thanks for the old news. Monsanto owns that fish tomato dunce.

Calgene, the tomatoes’ creator-in-chief (now a part of Monsanto), voluntarily conducted three 28-day rat feeding studies. Before I share the gory details, I must commend the Calgene scientists who were committed to transparency and full disclosure with the FDA. Unlike all other subsequent voluntary submissions from biotech firms to the agency, Calgene provided detailed feeding study data and full reports. Dr. Belinda Martineau, one of Calgene’s tomato makers, writes in First Fruit about their commitment to an open process while they attempted to introduce the world’s first GM food crop.Calgene tested two separate Flavr Savr tomato lines. Both had the same gene inserted into the same type of tomato. The process of insertion and the subsequent cloning of the cells into GM plants can cause lots of unique and unpredicted consequences. The two lines, therefore, were notconsidered identical.

monsanto is full of cocksucking vampires, thats why you like them ;)
years a years of practice for you to be this dense

let me guess for the last 15 years you've been cursing at the supermarket tomatos for being "GMO's"?





could somebody throw ninjabowler a line here and explain to him exactly where he's wrong
 

echelon1k1

New Member
where did you get this part from?

"The short of it is, GM crops may produce new allergens. Yet if allergy testing is done, it rarely involves any in vivo testing. When an in vivo allergy test was recently done on a GM pea produced by the CSIRO, the pea was found to unexpectedly cause a strong allergic reaction in mice. Mice also spontaneously became allergic to other substances such as eggs"

tacking a conclusion onto a study while making it appear to be part that study would be considered fraudulent
Why don't you translate the abstract then...
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
I still havnt seen one real peer reviewed paper from a recognised scientific journal supporting the anti-GMO position.

You guys are so full of fail, I hope I can catch "the stupid" off you idiots via the interwebz.

Science has apparently been "changed" to be pretty fucking unscientific!
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
I still havnt seen one real peer reviewed paper from a recognised scientific journal supporting the anti-GMO position.
i recognize this, but GMO hasn't been around long nor studied very well and is constantly and rapidly evolving.*

i'm pretty sure GMO will go the way of asbestos. but i reserve the right to be wrong.
 

Ninjabowler

Well-Known Member
I still havnt seen one real peer reviewed paper from a recognised scientific journal supporting the anti-GMO position.

You guys are so full of fail, I hope I can catch "the stupid" off you idiots via the interwebz.

Science has apparently been "changed" to be pretty fucking unscientific!
lets see what scientifc america has to say about GMOs and monsanto then. How about that. You cant fuck with these guys dumb shits :):):)

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=rat-study-sparks-furor-over-genetically-modified-foods


Rat Study Sparks Furor over Genetically Modified Foods
Cancer claims put herbicide-resistant transgenic maize in the spotlight


By Declan Butler





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ARS RESEARCHERS have introduced green fluorescent protein into corn lines as a marker for different tissues, which will make it easier to study nitrogen use and grain development and improve corn processing. Here the light kernels are expressing the fluorescent protein in the endosperm layer.
Image: Photo courtesy of Adrienne Moran Lauter, ARS.
By Declan Butler of Nature magazine


Europe has never been particularly fond of genetically modified (GM) foods, but a startling research paper published last week looks set to harden public and political opposition even further, despite a torrent of skepticism from scientists about the work.


The study, published in the peer-reviewed journal Food and Chemical Toxicology, looked for adverse health effects in rats fed NK603 maize (corn), developed by biotech company Monsanto to resist the herbicide glyphosate and approved for animal and human consumption in the European Union, United States and other countries. It reported that the rats developed higher levels of cancers, had larger cancerous tumors and died earlier than controls. The researchers have not conclusively identified a mechanism for the effect.


The rats were monitored for two years (almost their whole life*span), making this the first long-term study of maize containing these specific genes. About a dozen long-term studies of different GM crops have failed to find such stark health effects. An earlier test of NK603 maize in rats in a 90-day feeding trial — the current regulatory norm — sponsored by Monsanto showed no adverse effects.


The explosion of media coverage about the findings has energized opponents of GM food, especially in Europe. French Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault said that, if the results are confirmed, the government will press for a Europe-wide ban on the maize. The European Commission has instructed the independent European Food Safety Agency (EFSA) in Parma, Italy, to assess the study.


Many scientists, however, have already questioned the study’s methodology and findings. They assert that the data presented in the paper do not readily allow the claims to be independently assessed, and they question the study’s experimental design and its statistical analysis of any differences between the treated groups and controls. Other scientists point out that the Sprague-Dawley strain of rats used in the experiments has been shown to be susceptible to developing tumors spontaneously, particularly as they grow older, making it difficult to interpret the results. Monsanto itself said that the study “does not meet minimum acceptable standards for this type of scientific research”.


The €3.2-million (US$4.1-million) study was led by Gilles-Eric Séralini, a molecular biologist at the University of Caen, France, in collaboration with the Paris-based Committee for Research and Independent Information on Genetic Engineering (CRIIGEN), whose scientific board he heads. CRIIGEN bills itself as an “independent non-profit organization of scientific counter-expertise to study GMOs, pesticides and impacts of pollutants on health and environment, and to develop non polluting alternatives”. The article’s publication coincides with the launch this week of a book by Séralini, Tous Cobayes? (All of Us Guinea-Pigs Now?), which tells the story of the research project and is accompanied by a film and a television documentary.


In a written response to Nature’s questions, Séralini and Joël Spiroux de Vendômois, president of CRIIGEN and a co-author of the paper, say that they have been surprised by the “violence” and immediacy of scientists’ criticisms. They argue that most of the critics are not toxicologists, and suggest that some may have competing interests, including working to develop transgenic crops. They also point out some errors by critics, such as claims that graphs in the paper showing rat survival over time do not include data for the controls.
 

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
i recognize this, but GMO hasn't been around long nor studied very well and is constantly and rapidly evolving.*

i'm pretty sure GMO will go the way of asbestos. but i reserve the right to be wrong.
in the mean time we'll have people hating on "GMO" tomatoes that are naturally bred

people trying to redefine the english language and blaming GMO's for the poor quality of processed food

people blaming mosanto for the worlds eveils although being shown time and time again they were mistaken


but maybe just maybe sometime in the furture there might be somthing that proves you guys are not completely irrattional
 
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