Fan Leafs. Blockers of Light Or Energy Producers???

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potroastV2

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Hate to break it to you pot roast, there are afghani landraces that finish in 6 weeks, outdoors

I've grown Afghani #1, the original strain bred by Cultivators Choice, and I flowered her for 9 weeks. Those last 3 weeks are when the resins are ripening, you should try it.

Like I said, the others will recognize who to listen to.

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Slab

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New shit. Herborveracios fright flower response. You nibble on your leaves and make a mooing sound. Double your yeilds, Sun!
 

PJ Diaz

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New shit. Herborveracios fright flower response. You nibble on your leaves and make a mooing sound. Double your yeilds, Sun!
Most folks don't know though.. that technique only works when you nibble in the morning..
 

HeartlandHank

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I stated this earlier in the thread.. but.. if you have lower popcorn issues and you are doing LST or topping... then try out not topping and using a more mild LST.
Less bud sites, just as much weight, no need to defoliate, easier trim, consistent buds from the lowest to the point of the cola. I swear, try it.

Less bud sites = same weight = bigger more consistent buds
More bud sites = same weight = inconsistent buds and maturing

Also, dropping the LST, topping and defoliating cuts at least 4 days from your flower cycle.

Just a suggestion, if you like what you do and it's not what I do, cool.
 

Uncle Ben

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I can't blame you, Uncle Ben, when these "growers" talk about harvesting plants after only 40-50 days! What will the newbies think?

Oh I know, they will listen to the guys who have been growing for several decades. This year is my 40th anniversary of growing my first pot plant, and I know that you have similar experience.

So we don't have to continually correct them, the other members recognize who to listen to. Let the trolls spout their crap, and know that most members don't pay them any attention.

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Well said jefe!

You and I also are probably in the same age group. Bless Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin and Jim Morrison, RIP.

Grow hard,
Uncle Ben
 

Slab

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90% of the PAR that a leaf absorbs. Only 5% is retained.

Around 50% is transmitted. The rest is reflected and lost as heat.

that is what I have gathered so far.
 

elkukupanda

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90% of the PAR that a leaf absorbs. Only 5% is retained.

Around 50% is transmitted. The rest is reflected and lost as heat.

that is what I have gathered so far.
Hey slab, can you elaborate some key points of important aspects and variables for that transmittance ratio to take place.. i been reading some shit that might apply to the woody stage of cannabis and stuff...
 

PJ Diaz

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90% of the PAR that a leaf absorbs. Only 5% is retained.

Around 50% is transmitted. The rest is reflected and lost as heat.

that is what I have gathered so far.

Let's assume that's true for argument's sake..

So, what does that mean to the leaves below the first leaves? Does that mean that they absorb 50% of the remaining 50% -- kinda like a half life, or does that mean that they absorb the remaining 50% with nothing left for the leaves below those? Either way, a 50% transmission combined with inverse square rule doesn't make for a whole lot of light below the canopy.
 

Slab

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Not with confidence Elk.

spectrum, intensity and angle are what I am sinking my one brain cell into now.
 

Slab

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Let's assume that's true for argument's sake..

So, what does that mean to the leaves below the first leaves? Does that mean that they absorb 50% of the remaining 50% -- kinda like a half life, or does that mean that they absorb the remaining 50% with nothing left for the leaves below those? Either way, a 50% transmission combined with inverse square rule doesn't make for a whole lot of light below the canopy.
The lower leaves are built differently than the top, not just in size, internally. Intensity diminishes true, so naturally absorption, reflection and transmittance change, the lower leaves are built for it. It 's going to get its 5% not matter what lol.


I have kept large mother plants lush and green with a 40 watt shop light to give you some perspective.
 

elkukupanda

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ok, i been collecting some info regarding defoliation shit... so far.. (i'm still doing research) and i'm leaving light details out of the question... regarding leaves function and how the enzyme invertase carry out it job for sugars... pretty much what's been seeing in defoliation is as leaves recreate.. sucrose have a more soluble ratio within 21 days of a leave being regenerated... however, there is strong indication that all the hexose ( carbon atoms collected ) after 21 days are balancing and being processed... so pretty much.. take the leaf out... yes.. more sucrose and stuff..but the hexose is gone... gonzoo.. sucrose is still being processed after 21 days just that the leaves begin to process other stuff as well.. <--- this is just looking at the work of sugar breakdown of a leaf... now take into consideration the other functions of a leaf and stuff.. my mind is going as... if i don't manage to keep leave super green... 40% yellowing.. bye bye leaf
 

Slab

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Having water, nutrients and fresh air. That will almost never happen. Yellowing that is.

unless you piss on an outdoor plant like my old roommate did to me lol.

You should have saw me looking @ this vertical yellow streak down the middle of a plant, I am slow on the uptake so lightning was my prime suspect for a good half hour haha.
 

elkukupanda

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Yup, i'll see how it goes.. next grow i'm try to dial things better.. Edit: don't want to lead to irresponsible thinking and lead new growers to believe stupid shit.. Keep green your shit. Period.
 

akula

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I have kept large mother plants lush and green with a 40 watt shop light to give you some perspective.
This is a pretty good point that I have never considered and will probably be largely ignored. I have mother plants that right at this moment are growing out of control because I haven't the room right now for new cuttings in my veg room (waiting for the final harvest in the flower room then I will transfer and cut new clones). But anyways I have so many plants in my veg room that my mothers have been pushed to the 'dead zone'. I place where I have a few cfl bulbs. They are as lush and green underneath as they are on top and bushy as hell.
 

PJ Diaz

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I have kept large mother plants lush and green with a 40 watt shop light to give you some perspective.
This is a pretty good point that I have never considered and will probably be largely ignored. I have mother plants that right at this moment are growing out of control because I haven't the room right now for new cuttings in my veg room (waiting for the final harvest in the flower room then I will transfer and cut new clones). But anyways I have so many plants in my veg room that my mothers have been pushed to the 'dead zone'. I place where I have a few cfl bulbs. They are as lush and green underneath as they are on top and bushy as hell.
My main concern wouldn't be keeping them green so much as it would be controlling unwanted stretch.
 
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