Fan Leafs. Blockers of Light Or Energy Producers? [POLL]
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o shit I thought it asked if you defoliated at all. i dont defoliate right before harvest....no no. Would that not be similiar to picking the leaves shading the tomato to "get more sun" (I did this before thinking that the tomatos would grow better, but what I turn was doing was taking away the potential to make big tomatos
elkukupanda
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Love the idea... Change it to defoliation
PJ Diaz
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Why? The term "defoliation" is a misnomer, as it implies complete leaf removal from the entire plant (ie: no leaves left). Smart growers will only practice selective and strategic leaf removal.
hexthat
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de·fo·li·ate
/dēˈfōlēˌāt/
Verb
Remove leaves from (a tree, plant, or area of land), for agricultural purposes or as a military tactic.
i dont see how all have to be removed for it to be defoliating
PJ Diaz
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I'm only echoing the stupid statements that I've heard from defoliation-haters. Personally I agree with you. If we call it "selective leaf removal" it's simply a more specific term that's less conducive to dumb arguments is all.
PJ Diaz
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Works for me then.
GreenThumbSucker
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Buds get their energy from the shade leaves. There are two types of tissues in plants. Sink tissues and source tissues. Sink tissues are where sugars are used and stored, and source tissues are where energy (light) is converted into sugars and amino acids.
Examples of sink tissues:
- roots
- growing tips of stems and leaves
- flowers
- fruits
Leaves are source tissues. If you remove the source of the energy from the plant, the sink receives no carbohydrates and amino acids, and growth stops. Sink tissues DO NOT product carbohydrates and amino acids.
Sink tissues are NOT photosynthetically ACTIVE meaning they DO NOT ABSORB LIGHT in any meaningful way.
http://www.plantphysiol.org/content/115/1/273.full.pdf
GreenThumbSucker
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Buds do not absorb light. They are sink tissues, not source tissues. You are just cutting off your buds source of energy and nutrients.
PJ Diaz
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Really? Then if it isn't chlorophyll that makes them green, what is it?
shagalicious
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it is chlorophyll
what he is saying, i believe, is that the sink tissues aren't as efficient at that proccess as source tissues, as that is not their primary purpose
it's like using your bicycle to ride to the amusement park with the wife and kid - it can be done, but why would you not just take the car - biggerbetterfasterstronger
PJ Diaz
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Because I can cut through traffic and also hit the beach and the nature museum afterwards.
shagalicious
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i know that this is your thread, but i have to say this is the sort of cutesy quippy shit that will have people absolutely certain that you have no interest in actually learning or exchanging information
that, combined with the fact that you have 2 threads in the same section with the same instigatory, inflammatory, bullshit title...
you're a fucking troll
good luck - have fun
PJ Diaz
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First of all, you don't know what you're talking about obviously, since this is not my thread, and I don't have any threads anywhere on this topic. You are clearly confused.
Second of all it was an analogy in response to your analogy. I'm sorry you didn't get it. Here, let me explain. Going to more places in the day equates to being able to pack more tips in the same space due to the leaves not all smothering everything. Go you get it now, or should I give a more in depth explanation.
There's really no need to jump to anger and hostility like you just did. Go smoke some herb brother and come back when you're in a peaceful vibe.
shagalicious
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so it's not your thread
so i'm not sorry
so you're still a troll
and - no - i have no desire to understand your confused thinking
light exposure to the bud site does not equate to bud density
that is the confused thinking behind the defoliation techniques being discussed
if you have poor air circulation in your room, then defoliation may help a bit with density, as it will lower humidity at the bud site, allowing the plant to produce a denser structure without risking a mold infestation, but it will not enhance your overall yield in any case
to create more dense, large kola type buds, get more of your growing shoots level at the canopy to more evenly distribute flowering hormones
the larfy buds are at the bottom because there is little hormone there, not because there is little light there
try this - leave the leaves on your plant and put a few cfls dow near the plant base and see if those buds don't stay just as larfy - they will
the double harvest technique is also misunderstood in this regard
it's not the light exposure causing this technique to yield harder denser buds from your plant bottoms - it's the fact that it's the new top of the plant and is now the destination for said hormones - that is also the reason the bottom of the plant will run so much longer than the top
and, while i know that you, personally will find nothing in this but another tidbit to troll on, maybe some of these other growers involved in a productive conversation about plant health and needs may