|FCG|Frank's 1st Grow: Kali Mist | LED, CO2 & all the love they need

[|FCG|Frank]

I only have a single tent right now. I'm not currently clearing 30-50P a month. I COULD clear 30-50 every 3 months within the year if this grow goes well and my yield calculations are correct (if they're not it would affect the calculations since I'd have to re-evalute g/sqft estimates)

Once I know how much I can reasonably expect to yield per sqt in a fully dialed in system like mine for a given strain, I can plan ahead and expand. If I expand, getting a spectroradiometer will make sense.

This is my first grow ever and I have a single tent. I wont spend thousands doing R&D if I don't expand and only keep a single 2x4 tent.

 

[|FCG|Frank]

Day 6

I just got my new macro equipment (a Raynox 250) which allows for much higher magnification. It's quite a difficult process and I'll need to get used to it, but for my first try, I'm happy with the results:

The leaves aren't wider than 8mm (0.31 inch) so I had to stack about 30 shots to get that depth of field.

I wasn't expecting my first set of true leaves before next week according to the book I use as a guide, so was pleasantly surprised

 

[|FCG|Frank]

Day 7
I gave them their first feeding yesterday at 1/4 strenght, sensi grow AB only. PPM shot up to 300 but they responded very well.

The first girl doubled her leave size overnight while the second seed shot up three inches high and is now almost caught up in height with the first one.

Sorry for bad quality, I'm still experimenting with focus stacking.

 

[gordobo]

Of course Beef will be all over your grow with LED love. Any little improvement is going to be because of your exceptional choice in LED lights. PULLLEEZ. Shoulda done a side be be side with an iGROW bro. Otherwise there's no way of comparing. Hell you coulda run the indagrow for 30 days before you sent it back. At least they veg.

Sorry to jack your thread a bit but Beefs NOT doing you any favors here!

 

[Beefbisquit]

Of course Beef will be all over your grow with LED love. Any little improvement is going to be because of your exceptional choice in LED lights. PULLLEEZ. Shoulda done a side be be side with an iGROW bro. Otherwise there's no way of comparing. Hell you coulda run the indagrow for 30 days before you sent it back. At least they veg.

Sorry to jack your thread a bit but Beefs NOT doing you any favors here!

I'd love to see a side by side.

You've got 40 posts, and you've been a member for a month and you're calling me out? You're a iJUNK floozie newbie with nothing but talk. No grows, no pics, no facts, just hot air. Now fuck off little boy, run along now...

 

[|FCG|Frank]

Sorry to jack your thread a bit but Beefs NOT doing you any favors here!

There's no need for Beef to speak for me when I have science and my brains doing it well for me.

I don't need to run a fucking iGrow light side-by-side when the CEO himself says a 400 watt induction fixture will emit 225 umoles of PAR. I should buy the light to confirm the mediocrity of the price/performance ratio of his product?

Induction is less efficient than LED in PAR/watt ratio because LED fixtures will ALWAYS have a more efficient use of energy because it ONLY emits the EXACT spectrum we want it to. Induction is just a high output fluorescent light with a fancier gas blend. It's not fucking magic. It's not the best thing since sliced bread (that's vaporizers followed closely by vasectomies). It's certainly not better than LED, and much inferior to Solarstorm lights for the money involved. The only people who think differently are people who are not properly educated yet.

You are purposefully spreading misinformation on these forums which, imho, should be a bannable offense. YOU are the one doing a disservice to the community.

 

[PetFlora]

Yet another reason why we need to stop using G/W and switch to umoles, where the rubber meets the road

Well, whites have a broad range of spectrums, too, BUT,

leds contain ZERO mercury

 

[sheik yerbouti]

Looks awesome bud, didn't read the whole thread so not sure what your feeding program is other than the full line of AN. Just want to give one piece of advice; be cautious with the amount of nutrients especially being your first grow, everything you've done is so great so I'd hate to see you over fertilize right away. Definitely do not go with what the bottle recommends, I absolutely toasted my plants doing this when I started, I had 10 different nutrients and additives and it just toasted my plants. I now use a simple one part formula and it is 10x better. I think I saw you had an ec/ppm meter. Start at around .2 ec and work your way up, I wouldn't recommend ever going about 1.2 EC either. Kali Mist is a pure Sativa so chances are its a light feeder.

Good luck.

 

[gordobo]

Frank take a chill pill bro. Kite proved beyond any doubt that Beef is not a skilled grower and speaks from behind a strictly LED perspective. As any good researcher on a quest for knowledge and perfection of their craft would have to agree, to limit ones options to just one technology is narrow minded. You are not narrow minded. You seem to be doing things that most of us can't afford to do. Your garden is very well done with all top of the line equipment. You're looking to buy like a $5000 piece of equipment to test your lights.

A week ago you started this thread as a newbie and was interested in induction as well as LED. You had one coming and sent it back before you even tried it. That shows within a period of one week you were committed to testing one then up and changed your mind. Well I was only suggesting that your change of mind was premature or may have even been predetermined. You should have at least tried that piece of shit so you could have compared it to an iGROW is all I was saying. You'r trying different LED's why not inductions?

So don't suggest I'm bannable. I've been, and will continue to be admiring what your doing for your condition and how well your garden progresses. Like Kite says 'let the plants do the talking'. Narrow spectrum LED panels should be compared to iGROW and I just thought you might be the one to do it.

 

[|FCG|Frank]

• A week ago you started this thread as a newbie and was interested in induction as well as LED. You had one coming and sent it back before you even tried it. That shows within a period of one week you were committed to testing one then up and changed your mind. Well I was only suggesting that your change of mind was premature or may have even been predetermined. You should have at least tried that piece of shit so you could have compared it to an iGROW is all I was saying. You'r trying different LED's why not inductions?
  
  So don't suggest I'm bannable. I've been, and will continue to be admiring what your doing for your condition and how well your garden progresses. Like Kite says 'let the plants do the talking'. Narrow spectrum LED panels should be compared to iGROW and I just thought you might be the one to do it.​
  
  

The reason I returned the light is because I knew before opening it it would not be enough. Unfortunately I did not know that before I ordered it. I followed the suggestion of the CEO before I knew about PAR and how to measure them.

Would you really need to compare the acceleration of a Ferrari and a Civic in practice to believe the Ferrari is a superior automobile?

 

[|FCG|Frank]

Just want to give one piece of advice; be cautious with the amount of nutrients especially being your first grow, everything you've done is so great so I'd hate to see you over fertilize right away. Definitely do not go with what the bottle recommends, I absolutely toasted my plants doing this when I started, I had 10 different nutrients and additives and it just toasted my plants. Good luck.

I hear you bro! I gave them 1/4 strenght feeding yesterday and they loved it. I'm closely monitor PPM/EC levels so I intend not to make that mistake

I was warned of this quite a few times. Seems to be a common issue. Too bad AN keeps recommending these ridiculous values!

 

[gordobo]

Now your talking!!! I believe they'll give you 90 days return with no restocking and free shipping bro. Just order one with both lamps, keep the original box and if they don't outperform the LED panels (which they will!) return them. But once you see what they can do you'll end up keeping them anyway. This is the journal do it in and you are the guy that can do it. You sir are not encumbered by the shill marketing of a Mr. Biscuit. As a newbie you are a clean slate for a side by side!

Much Love! Much Respect!

 

[gordobo]

That last post won't make sense because I was responding to your comment on how you'd do a side by side with an iGROW if you were sent one free of charge. I see you revised that post and took that comment out. It appears you now think you have a Ferrari in your tent. Too bad Frank. I had hopes for you but Captain Bligh got to you. Now it's just marketing by Frank.

 

[|FCG|Frank]

I edited it before I saw your reply.

If you want to send me all the stuff I need to set up a tent and run a comparison (or if iGrow or IndaGro want to do so) I will happily run a comparison with the same level of detail and attention. But I sure won't invest my own money into such a venture.

You also lack the ability to apply nuance to your statement and completely misinterpreted what I said and the point I was making.

Only marketing I'm doing is that of using your brain to educate yourself properly.

 

[Beefbisquit]

That last post won't make sense because I was responding to your comment on how you'd do a side by side with an iGROW if you were sent one free of charge. I see you revised that post and took that comment out. It appears you now think you have a Ferrari in your tent. Too bad Frank. I had hopes for you but Captain Bligh got to you. Now it's just marketing by Frank.

You're such a sore loser. Everyone knows your lights are shit for the money, and you have no grow journals to say otherwise.

Don't be pissed at the consumer because your propaganda machine is failing to generate a stir. Send out some freebie panels to growers and see what they can do. No one is going to buy a $1200 induction light to prove that it works for your company. You must think people are pretty stupid.

How about you nut up, and send Frank, or another grower, a freebie panel to see if it's worth its weight in dirt.

Oh, and I don't use 'narrow spectrum' LED's. It's 4250k white light supplemented with Red, far red, and blue.

 

[Scotch089]

Oh, and I don't use 'narrow spectrum' LED's. It's 4250k white light supplemented with Red, far red, and blue.

POW!! I was waiting for that.

I was catching the drift he had some investment in iGrow..

 

[|FCG|Frank]

Day 8

First drain complete! It paid off to be prepared because the whole thing took about 25 minutes and went without a hiccup.

I drained using the inline pump to the bath tub, then filled the bubbleponics with six 1-gallon jugs I had prefilled. Then I measured my Sensigrow AB, B52 and Voodoo juice at 1/4 strength. PPM shot up to 350ppm, which is acceptable. Then I adjusted pH to 5.8 and I was on my way!

I also had some white shark around so figured I'd sprinkle a bit of dust on the roots of both seedlings.

The second seedling has caught up with the first (almost).

 

[whodatnation]

Subscribed!!!!!!!

 

[|FCG|Frank]

Day 9

No photo of the girls because I forgot the macro stuff in the studio.

So I took a shot of what I am currently vaping until I harvest.

My girls look healthy, no discoloration or signs of problem.

 

[Scotch089]

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