So who here is growing in true organic living soil?

buckaroo bonzai

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[h=3]Golden showers! plants love it especially if you have a lot of THC in your system---
save the 'humanure' talk tho please..
its a basic premise of perma culture--



Agriculture[/h]Main article: Fertilizer
Urine contains large quantities of nitrogen (mostly as urea), as well as significant quantities of dissolved phosphates and potassium, the main macronutrients required by plants, with urine having plant macronutrient percentages (i.e. NPK) of approximately 11-1-2 by one study[SUP][18][/SUP] or 15-1-2 by another report,[SUP][19][/SUP] illustrating that exact composition varies with diet. Undiluted, it can chemically burn the roots of some plants, but it can be used safely as a source of complementary nitrogen in carbon-rich compost.[SUP][20][/SUP]
When diluted with water (at a 1:5 ratio for container-grown annual crops with fresh growing medium each season,[SUP][21][/SUP] or a 1:8 ratio for more general use[SUP][20][/SUP]), it can be applied directly to soil as a fertilizer. The fertilization effect of urine has been found to be comparable to that of commercial fertilizers with an equivalent NPK rating.[SUP][22][/SUP] Urine contains most (94% according to Wolgast[SUP][18][/SUP]) of the NPK nutrients excreted by the human body. Conversely, concentrations of heavy metals such as lead, mercury, and cadmium, commonly found in solid human waste, are much lower in urine (though not low enough to qualify for use in organic agriculture under current EU rules).[SUP][23][/SUP] The more general limitations to using urine as fertilizer then depend mainly on the potential for buildup of excess nitrogen (due to the high ratio of that macronutrient),[SUP][21][/SUP] and inorganic salts such as sodium chloride, which are also part of the wastes excreted by the renal system. The degree to which these factors impact the effectiveness depends on the term of use, salinity tolerance of the plant, soil composition, addition of other fertilizing compounds, and quantity of rainfall or other irrigation.
Urine typically contains 70% of the nitrogen and more than half the phosphorus and potassium found in urban waste water flows, while making up less than 1% of the overall volume. Thus far, source separation, or urine diversion and on-site treatment has been implemented in South Africa, China, and Sweden among other countries with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation provided some of the funding implemenations.[SUP][24][/SUP] China reportedly had 685,000 operating source separation toilets spread out among 17 provinces in 2003.[SUP][25][/SUP]
"Urine management" is a relatively new way to view closing the cycle of agricultural nutrient flows and reducing sewage treatment costs and ecological consequences such as eutrophication resulting from the influx of nutrient rich effluent into aquatic or marine ecosystems.[SUP][19][/SUP] Proponents of urine as a natural source of agricultural fertilizer claim the risks to be negligible or acceptable. Their views seem to be backed by research showing there are more environmental problems when it is treated and disposed of compared with when it is used as a resource.[SUP][26][/SUP]
It is unclear whether source separation, urine diversion, and on-site urine treatment can be made cost effective; nor whether required behavioral changes would be regarded as socially acceptable, as the largely successful trials performed in Sweden may not readily generalize to other industrialized societies.[SUP][22][/SUP] In developing countries the use of whole raw sewage (night soil) has been common throughout history, yet the application of pure urine to crops is rare. Increasingly there are calls for urine's use as a fertilizer, such as aScientific American article "Human urine is an effective fertilizer".[SUP][27][/SUP]
 

Rrog

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People use urine as a N source all over the world. I don't, but wouldn't have a problem adding it to a compost pile or worm bin.
 

buckaroo bonzai

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

you have to find the right wormz.......the ones that like 'golden showers'

'red wigglers' .....go figure-





in the tenth dimension we have pink wigglers with big purple bulbous headz....we also have bearded clams over here that love the golden showers too! but they smell like fish meal and not clamz
 

fattiemcnuggins

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Ok so assuming I had my lacto, my I put it on wheat vran ib black trash bag for a month..now what? Do I take that and put it in a bucket with a lid and just start throwing coffee grounds and stuff in and let that sit and then I have bokashi?
 

Rrog

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You dry it. Spread it out on plastic inside or in a garage, etc. Then bag and store.
 

fattiemcnuggins

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Thanks rrig. Will let ya know once I have made it that far. Now dumb question # 2, the bokashi is used for supercharging your compost heap right? Feeds the worms too?
 

Rrog

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These are great questions. Please.

Bokashi speeds composting, as the anaerobic environment of the Lacto is it's favorite environment. So it get's a good amount of digestion done, and when buried, the soil microbes take over and finish it off. So it's fast.

The worms also love it, once you bury it and it "cools off". The Bokashi is acidic and the soil will absorb a lot of this.

Bury the Bokashi in a corner of the worm bin or bag and let them come to it. Burying stops the stink also. Bokashi smells bad, FYI. Haha
 

fattiemcnuggins

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Ok so I could use google but I like to hear answers from you guys. Starting a compost bin 101? I know the basics but am better at following step by step.
 

Rrog

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I just pile the stuff up in a wire cylinder. 3' diameter, and 4' tall. Maybe taller. Now I feed the partially composted material to the worms.
 

H R Puff N Stuff

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was wondering if i soak bio charcoal in compost tea and then amend bio charcoal in soil am i adding fully occupied microbe condos or does it take a long while for the microbes to attach to the bio charcoal.
 

Rrog

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They set up residence in the biochar fast. Consider some N source in there also. Generally people are looking to inoculate the char with microbes and N before adding to soil
 

Rrog

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Vermiculture Technology book just arrived. THE definitive book on the subject. 600 pages of the latest info.
 

Cory and trevor

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teaming with microbes has been a tough read and I like most textbook-type boring stuff. I'm 60% TLO was much more fun and fast to read but I'm doing my dilligence and reading ....microbes.
 

Rrog

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Shoot some questions out there! What parts are you wondering about? Your questions will help countless others who don't post...
 

buckaroo bonzai

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Vermiculture Technology book just arrived. THE definitive book on the subject. 600 pages of the latest info.

yes Buddha ....
speak your truth and spread the love!


im really digging throwing all the coffee grounds into my dirt now everyday......instead of the trash-

N+++++ !! bongsmilie
 
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