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[Thundercat]

Have the pipes been frozen since the other day, or did they refreeze cus you forgot the water faucet?

As far as the soil goes, I always water a bit when I transplant to "wash" the roots into the new soil. I never mess with the root ball at all, just set it in settle the dirt in around it, and water. Usually I just water directly around the root ball.

 

[TrynaGroSumShyt]

i think at their size, too dry is worse than too wet, which is really hard to do. i doubt you have anything to worry about

 

[Bobotrank]

Glad she's doing better today, Jig. Sometimes these things can just be normal bumps in the road. Of course you guys are going to be extra sensitive to everything, as you should be. You've had a rough time of it. Hang in there brother. Keeping the positive thoughts flowing.

 

[theloadeddragon]

That means a lot bassman. I've really missed you being around and makes me smile to see your name.

Wife feels good today I guess. I just woke up from a bad dream where I killed my plants and my wife started shreiking in the other room about her body. Good nap lol.

I'm going to transplant the plants today. I'm so lost as to if the soil is too dry or wet. Fuck it. Whatever. Pipes are still frozen... I don't even think I can get to the part that's still cold. At least one toilet works.

Happy Monday peeps.

Hey Jig... I have been out for a few days myself. Im sorry to read your recent difficulties.... less stress is the best for her right now. Keeping positive, calm and relaxed. Love and prayers going your way from here.

Also- could you start a new thread for your new soil grow and post a link? when you get a chance, I know there are more important things going on. Im a bit confused by all the conversation over the last few days as to what your plan is and where things stand (pics make a world of difference too ).

And some general advice regarding your soil. FEEL it! You would be surprised how closely our senses can relate to a plants. If it FEELS moist but there is still good gas flow, then your in the money. If the soil is warm to the touch when dry then it is rich in organic life. hot too the touch and it may be too "hot" for the roots as well. If the soil feels "scratchy" to your fingers, it will feel that way to the roots as well. the ideal soil temp should be 58-65 degrees lights on, and no lower than 52 lights off (for optimum root growth). When growing in soil, inside or out... I have found that I learn more of the real nature of the plants, and discover that my feelings make much more of a difference. Think of a balanced diet for a person in relation to whats in the soil.... not too much and not too little, but a healthy balance of nutrition .

I would be happy to assist with my opinion in many of these matters (soil, lighting, watering etc.) would just be a lot easier for me were it starting fresh with a good idea of whats going on

 

[jigfresh]

I didn't even realize how bad the pipes were. Our house is old and has an odd layout for pipes and all sorts of other things. I guess that happens when you have one room, expand another, and another, and another, and another, and another. Now they are all small rooms... I have a tiny house... but each one was built by different people in different decades (different centuries even). First room was built in 1918 (i think). We have about 2 feet of exposed cold water pipe that leads to the back bathroom. That is usually the only thing that freezes. And before you ask why it isn't insulated, you need to ask the raccoons. I have put insulation and tried to cover it with various tapes and sprays to hopefully keep the raccoons from destroying it, but they keep destroying it.

So this morning I thought it was only that pipe that had frozen.... spent about 1.5 hours trying to unfreeze it. Finally took off a glove and felt it... I had gotten that section nice and warm. So then the confusion set in. Then I finally tried to use the kitchen sink, and that didn't work either. So now I knew stuff had frozen under the house. YAY!!! So I've been crawling around in a crawlspace that starts at 4 feet and makes it's way back to 1.5 feet. Super dusty, I unfroze the pipes to the kitchen and did the same to every bit of pipe I could see going to the back.

Here we are, 7 hours later (LOL) and there is still no cold water to the back bathroom. There's nothing else left for me to do.

EDIT: Thanks a lot for that TLD. I had been thinking of starting a new journal for the new adventure and believe I will. However, there will be just as much bullshitting over there... I like talking. But it would be good to start one in case any other soil types want to check it out.

I'll get some pics up sometimes too.

 

[whodatnation]

Hey Jigster. sucks about the pipes. One thing I do know is raccoons have extremely sensitive paws. My neighbor down the road put some crumpled up foil at the base of his corn. The coons didnt like walking on it. Maybe try wrapping it in something they will find unpleasant to the touch, might work.

GL!

 

[bassman999]

I have so much going on lately, but I pop in every now and then.

I am way behind and overwhelmed following all the threads and journals right now lol, so mostly I am reading and not posting...

 

[theloadeddragon]

Bio Bizz All mix and foxfarm Ocean forest- 1bb for every 2 ff bags, once thoroughly mixed together I add another 10% perlite best indoor soil results EVER.... tried soooo many other things in different combinations.... that recipe has been like magic for me. its a wonderful platform to work from and is very forgiving of both difficulties in life and growing (experimenting with liquid fertilizers for example)....

 

[bassman999]

Bio Bizz All mix and foxfarm Ocean forest- 1bb for every 2 ff bags, once thoroughly mixed together I add another 10% perlite best indoor soil results EVER.... tried soooo many other things in different combinations.... that recipe has been like magic for me. its a wonderful platform to work from and is very forgiving of both difficulties in life and growing (experimenting with liquid fertilizers for example)....

All my experimentation with organics did is mess everything up.
I am sticking to simple now...soil with GH nutes and hempy with the same nutes.

 

[DST]

Maybe try wrapping it in something they will find unpleasant to the touch, might work.

GL!

A pair of your speedos perhaps!

 

[whodatnation]

A pair of your speedos perhaps!

oh no, lol

 

[jigfresh]

Fuck me it's cold outside. Only got up to 22 (-6c) today. Supposed to be down around 10 (-12c) tonight. Pipes ain't getting unfrozen till it warms up tomorrow. Supposed to be absolutely tropical at 40 (4c) degrees tomorrow. Next day gets to 50 I guess. Downtown LA set an all time low last night. Will again tonight. There's a lot of homeless people that were really chilly, and will be. As much as I don't like the position I'm in right now... at least I'm warm and fed.

Maybe I'll use wet sand paper around it. Might work. I need to build a box or something around the thing, but there's only cement around it, so not as easy to work with.

I took a couple pictures:

A pretty view of the L.A. basin


Last dip in the pool


Roots


I had a helper for the transplanting

 

[Thundercat]

Girls look really nice in their new home man. Looks like they are happy and healthy, not much more to ask for. As crazy as this sounds what I'd try with the raccoons is re insolate the line with what ever from the hardware store, then spray the line, and all the insulation and ground around the insolation with either real pepper spray or a strong mixture of hot pepper puree. SOmething laong those lines. my family used to have a big issue with squirrls getting into our crawl space and thats how we handled it. The first time they come aroud and get a nose full of the peppers they think twice about comeing back. Just make sure if you use actual peper spray that you can get out fast enough not to get hit with it. A peper puree with some vineger in a spray bottle may be a better choice. Throw some habeneros in the blender and mix it up. just a thought but it worked wonders with squirrls.

 

[theloadeddragon]

your soil looks good and well mixed. I like your plant spacing as well. yes a full half gallon at watering to keep the soil alive and thriving as well as promote your roots to grow further. I would say your pots are twice the size you need. I would give them a good 3 weeks before switching to 12/12 to allow them to get nice and settled in their new grow medium and make the best use of available nutrition, light, and grow space. They shouldnt need fed at all until flowering. and I would probably screen them, and SCROG them to maximize yield (fan below, fan above). Looks good. when watering..... wait until the top inch of soil is nice and dry before watering... they look happy

 

[jigfresh]

Thanks a lot. I think I'll veg them for a month. They shouldn't need any food, here's what's mixed up in the bottom:

Roots Organic, Worm Castings, Blood meal, Fish Bone Meal, Rock Phosphate, Epsom Salt, Dolomite Lime, Azomite, and Rainbow Mix (Bird Guano, Bone Meal, Bat Guano, Feather Meal,
Cottonseed Meal, Sea Kelp, Neem Meal & Potassium Sulfate, and humic acid)

I drew a picture of the scrog I'm thinking of. I'll have the 1000w hps in there.



And thanks for the tips TC.

 

[theloadeddragon]

I gotta spread rep before I can give you more...but

great plan stick to it... cool tube is a wonderful thing for closed quarters. Rather than go by a specified amount of time I usually go by the growth of the plants... all goes well you might want to flower sooner .

Sounds like a good soil mix... when mixed, prior to adding water, how did it feel to the touch?

 

[Thundercat]

I love the perabolic scrog man, each time I see one it makes me want to do it even more. Looks like a really solid plan all the way around. And no problem on the rodent tips, I grew up out in the country to we delt with all kinds of them. The bigger ones I usually shot with the .22 but I'm guessing if you can see the LA river basin from your house, that you can't shoot at your house. Also Cali has lame gun laws so you may not even be a shooter.

 

[Smoothkicksandsmoke]

Dude, you gotta set some traps incase he comes back! Im thinking some of that dog in a 1-way cage would do it

Ah I forgot abut you mentioning the scrog thing,,, been having lots on my plate lately, but wouldnt want it any other way


So something like this?
This is actually my sour d running in the system. The ring is just under 4 foot in diameter and only a 6 inside,,, youve somehow kept that 1k from burning your plants.
Anyway, all sounds well... frozen pipes, not cool.

Who I didn't know you were running a parabolic setup? Man I need to catch up. dammit all.

my wife will be happy, lol.......



and pissin maself at the noob question. What sort of bulb should i get....you are funny. I think you should decide yourself and then write us all a thesis as too why!? NO fewer than 3000 words please, I expect it on my desk Monday morning.

Jig did you follow through on DST's deadline? It's a letter grade off for each day it's late. hahah.

Thanks a lot. I think I'll veg them for a month. They shouldn't need any food, here's what's mixed up in the bottom:

Roots Organic, Worm Castings, Blood meal, Fish Bone Meal, Rock Phosphate, Epsom Salt, Dolomite Lime, Azomite, and Rainbow Mix (Bird Guano, Bone Meal, Bat Guano, Feather Meal,
Cottonseed Meal, Sea Kelp, Neem Meal & Potassium Sulfate, and humic acid)

I drew a picture of the scrog I'm thinking of. I'll have the 1000w hps in there.

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And thanks for the tips TC.

Sounds like you have your grow under control as usual bruh. Hope everything is well. Thoughts are with you and the fam.

 

[jigfresh]

That picture isn't quite the view from my house, it's a couple miles away. I actually live one property away from the national forest, so shooting a 22 isn't a problem. I just don't like messing animals up too much. We're pretty animal friendly around here. They treat us pretty well most of the time, even got skunks running screens for my stinky grow lol. We got a bear that comes around too. Coyotes, bobcats, squirrels, lose dogs, and a constant stream of cats. It's a zoo around here.

I'm sure some of you guys would love it around here. Houses in the area are selling for $60,000 for a 2 bedroom. Won't you be my neighbor.

I'm kinda high tonight.

EDIT: What up smooth. I thought you'd abandoned us since you started your own journal. Thanks for stopping by. That's whodats old grow btw. He's just got the little ones going now.

 

[Smoothkicksandsmoke]

That picture isn't quite the view from my house, it's a couple miles away. I actually live one property away from the national forest, so shooting a 22 isn't a problem. I just don't like messing animals up too much. We're pretty animal friendly around here. They treat us pretty well most of the time, even got skunks running screens for my stinky grow lol. We got a bear that comes around too. Coyotes, bobcats, squirrels, lose dogs, and a constant stream of cats. It's a zoo around here.

I'm sure some of you guys would love it around here. Houses in the area are selling for $60,000 for a 2 bedroom. Won't you be my neighbor.

I'm kinda high tonight.

EDIT: What up smooth. I thought you'd abandoned us since you started your own journal. Thanks for stopping by. That's whodats old grow btw. He's just got the little ones going now.

Nah man. I'm still here just trying to keep up with a couple of journals and my grow, and reading (The Brothers Karamazov). Yea I've been subbed to his current grow (whodat).

I couldn't see you shooting an animal mane. Not unless it threaten bodily harm.

The Mr. Roger's line. hahahah. You gotta be high. hah