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Thundercat

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I was just thinking hte same thing as Try. I would mix the lighter mix with the new roots mix, and get a nice medium grade to go on top of you supercharged stuff. THat being said your last post was 4 hours ago, so your probly already done. lol

I'm still running my hydro, but there are times when I really miss some nice soil bushes. I only had to mess with them like 1-2 times a week, and only watered once a week. That being said if I make it to a legal state soon, I'm still prolly gonna run hydro, just might switch from ebb and flow to DWC.
 

Thundercat

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Ew ew ew I feel like a little kid I just got a great idea for ya Jig!

When I ran my soil bushes back when, in half of my pots I added an "air sponge" to the bottom of the soil, I tried to place it like 2 inchs from the bottom. I got the idea from a person on here named Natmoon. They used this technique and actually grew in soil, in a large net basket. Gorgeous plants and huge yields. On the ones I did it seemed to really make a noticable differance. I wasn't running clones, or even all the same strain so it was not a side by side or anything, but the plants with the air sources seemed to grow faster and yield more.

It does 2 things really well, it injects O2 directly into the root zone, which in soil is usually tough to do. We rely on the suction effect after watering to draw in air. The air sponge also will help the soil to more evenly dry between waterings. I was still only watering once a week, so it didn't seeem to dry them to quickly but the bottom would actually seem ready for water at the same time the top half did.(5 gallons of soil) Any way its a sweet super simple idea, and I'm sure you've got to have an air pump laying around there somewhere.

This isn't the original thread I found it, but Natmoon and I discuss it in this thread....https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/122372-airbasket-fimming-tech-pics.html

Just a thought I had any way, hope you like!

Peace Tc
 

Don Gin and Ton

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Ew ew ew I feel like a little kid I just got a great idea for ya Jig!

When I ran my soil bushes back when, in half of my pots I added an "air sponge" to the bottom of the soil, I tried to place it like 2 inchs from the bottom. I got the idea from a person on here named Natmoon. They used this technique and actually grew in soil, in a large net basket. Gorgeous plants and huge yields. On the ones I did it seemed to really make a noticable differance. I wasn't running clones, or even all the same strain so it was not a side by side or anything, but the plants with the air sources seemed to grow faster and yield more.

It does 2 things really well, it injects O2 directly into the root zone, which in soil is usually tough to do. We rely on the suction effect after watering to draw in air. The air sponge also will help the soil to more evenly dry between waterings. I was still only watering once a week, so it didn't seeem to dry them to quickly but the bottom would actually seem ready for water at the same time the top half did.(5 gallons of soil) Any way its a sweet super simple idea, and I'm sure you've got to have an air pump laying around there somewhere.

This isn't the original thread I found it, but Natmoon and I discuss it in this thread....https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/122372-airbasket-fimming-tech-pics.html

Just a thought I had any way, hope you like!

Peace Tc
what up thundercat! I remember natmoon. guy grew fucking TREES!!
 

jigfresh

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Ha... and you have discovered my super power. I am also known as "Over Thinker Man" lol.

Having fun here this morning unfreezing some water pipes. YAY!!! Wife is sleeping in. Clones look pretty happy. Pots are all fulled up. I think I'll skip the air sponge thing this time. Natmoon said you should use the water crystal things with it so the soil doesn't dry out, and i don't have those. Maybe next time. It's good to hear such names again... a shame everyone isn't still around. Life happens though.

So all pots have SS in the bottom. 2 have roots orginal on top. 1 has a mix of original/ lite. 1 has roots llte. I'm going to take out the pure lite and replace. I'll leave the other.

Water... I'm going to be using tap water. I guess I should bubble the stuff for 24 hours?

I'm thinking of running 3 sour D and 1 chernobyl. I don't know, i"m torn. My thinking is, have chernobyl for me to smoke, and sour d for me to smoke, then have extra sour d to do whatever with. i figure it's better to have more of one strain to get rid of, than a little bit of 2 strains. What you guys think? 2 and 2?

As for other news, we are a couple days further in our pregnancy. Shooting for just over 23 weeks from now. Hell, that's less time than it takes Don to flower a landrace sativa. :)

Went to the mall and had food court food last night. Sigh. It tastes so fucking good as you are eating it. :spew: It's fun going to the mall sometimes. See what all the kids are doing and wearing. Hope everyone's weekend is going alright.

Damn QPR holding for a draw.

GO BRONCOS!!!!

It's a football extravaganza!
 

curious old fart

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over-thinking has caused me many a problem with the grow. I mixed a super soil with the 900 series sunshine-please don't ever do that-and trying to correct the problem-instead of scrapping it-I totally screwed up the mix and either stunted or killed everything....and lost some prime strains. I have gone to mixing two different bag soils (lady bug square foot and jungle growth pro) with 25% perlite, feed every 4 weeks with natural guard 6-2-4 (with bacteria and fungi) and water-feed every 2 weeks with lady bug- John's recipe which is fish emulsion, seaweed extract, cane molassas, humic acid, mag. sulfate, ferrous sulfate and zinc sulfate, similar to the teas, feeds the soil as well as the plant. Best looking grow ever, dark green leaves with healthy, thick buds and a large white root system...just water as needed.
this system seems to be working well with over 10 different strains-pics tonight when the lights come on.

:peace:
cof
 

jigfresh

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Sounds sweet. Not that i've done one for a while, but i love having a grow that puts the past ones in a dimmer light. Makes me feel like I am still growing myself. Glad to have you hanging around cof. Things are decidedly odd here the past little while.

Closet is all empty... it's kinda sad. I'll put up some pics in a bit.
 

Thundercat

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The water crystal thing was the only part I forgot about I guess. That would make a big differance. I had added water crystals, a couple bags of perlite, and I thought a few other things, I'd have to read back threw my thread its been so long now. I mixed it all up ahead of time, then filled my bags.

Sounds like the rest of the project went well. I like the idea of 2 and 2 have some variety, but a little more of both. I may have missed itt, are you gonna just veg these into bushes, or you gonna scrog it?

I know what your saying about feeling like your growing. Its been awhile since I've felt that way. Getting back on here and reading more again, has helped, and I've got about 8 strains going which is more then I've had since I first started. All really helping to build the drive!

Also glad to hear this pregnancy is going well so far. You've got my hopes and prayers man, I know how long you've been tryin.
 

jigfresh

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Wow 8 strains is something. I ran 4 one time and it turned out shitty... but that's in my single rez hydro setup so to be expected. Well only a 2 strains were shitty, the other two were nice. I am indeed going to scrog things out. I'm thinking of doing a horizontal bulb in the middle of the room with a big wrap around stadium type thing on the two walls. I should probably do something with the back wall too.

I just wanted to say to all you guys that you mean a lot to me. Whether we have met or not, whether or not we agree on most stuff, you guys are really kind people. I think it's part of the reason we grow such nice plants, because we all show them love. I honestly can't tell you what the support means to me in regards to this pregnancy. The thought that people are thinking positive thoughts for my baby is beyond words.

Thank you so so much. It means a great deal.

Here's a couple shots of the new bags. Thanks for the suggestion DST and COF.
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One of the room halfway taken down. :( It's all down now.
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And the intruder that I found in the grow room earlier. He was quick and cleverly disguised, and so he got away.
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Thundercat

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Looks like your well on your way man. I like the idea of the scrog, I've seen several "parabolic scrogs" on here that make alost of sense. Using the wall space like you said to gain more canopy space.
 

whodatnation

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Dude, you gotta set some traps incase he comes back! Im thinking some of that dog in a 1-way cage would do it :-)

Ah I forgot abut you mentioning the scrog thing,,, been having lots on my plate lately, but wouldnt want it any other way :-)


So something like this? ;-)
This is actually my sour d running in the system. The ring is just under 4 foot in diameter and only a 6 inside,,, youve somehow kept that 1k from burning your plants.
Anyway, all sounds well... frozen pipes, not cool.


 

jigfresh

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ugh... I'm going to throw up right about now. Tied 35-35 in overtime. Bad call against us. We gotta do this.
 

jigfresh

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For real cof. I have stopped breathing a few times. It's just amazing to watch a game this wild. Would be a blast if my team was on top at the end.

First OT running down. Haven't seen this is quite a while.
 
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