Fan Leafs. Blockers of Light Or Energy Producers???

[HeartlandHank]

UB,
I think I have it narrowed down to an early calcium def... most likely due to salt build up... i'm on it.
thanks again.

 

[zack66]

Couple pics of one of my ladies with all leaves left on. Chop time tomorrow.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

sorry you feel this way...I have spent more time GROWING MJ than you have probably been alive...think of your above statement...If at least 50% of the arctube in a horizontal fixture is visible then it equates to at least 50% direct light emission...and research or reading? EXPERIENCE not only reading...and with all your supposed research you only found less than 40 things to share in 2 years...whatever dude...last words I waste on you...have a great existence

But it isn't 50%. The light goes out in a circular pattern. You'll never get 50% direct using a typical reflector. It's completely impossible.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

get over yourself einstein...you are only impressing yourself but coming off as holier than thou to everyone else...have a great existence in your bubble

Dizzle really doesn't scream holier than thou to me. Uncle Ben however, sure as hell does.

 

[perdrick l. hapley]

In case you missed it I do not place any credibility on forum anecdotal evidence

For example, my topping to get 4 main colas is going on 700,000 views with 4,500 posts. Your threads are doing 25 - 53 posts.

Uncle Ben

Better listen to him. The newbies UB constantly berates for chasing snake oils and perpetuating bullshit apparently lend credibility to his arguments. good lord.............

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[colonuggs]

pre98 bubba left el-natural all the leaves......3 weeks flower left

pre98 bubba alot of fan leaves timmed at onset....not alot of difference in nugs size

 

[findme]

keep the leaves that way you can reveg the plant and have a head start in veg.

 

[Uncle Ben]

Couple pics of one of my ladies with all leaves left on. Chop time tomorrow.

Nice job. Love how those fan leaves are reaching for a good sun tan. Very long leaf petioles, that's what it's all about.

Uncle Ben

 

[Uncle Ben]

A recap as posted in another forum -

When I do a double harvest (which I always do inside or out) I squeeze as much "goodness" out of the plant that I can. The lower popcorn buds will bulk up some, about double is a good educated guess. What I'm postulating which can be confirmed by analysing an outdoor grown plant is now that the upper half has been removed, the lower half (the popcorn buds) get ALL of the nutritional benefit of an established root system and auxins (which were in the top apical parts of the plant). The auxins which control growth (cell division/elongation) have now been redirected to the "new" apical terminal tips, or what's left. Useless if you lost your leaves down there, but that's never been an issue for me.

Chronological flower development plays a role too. Now you're focusing on the area that initiated flowers at the very last. By removing the top colas, they become "first".

 

[C Cat]

Couple pics of one of my ladies with all leaves left on. Chop time tomorrow.

Yumm what kind?


~C That Cat?

 

[zack66]

Nice job. Love how those fan leaves are reaching for a good sun tan. Very long leaf petioles, that's what it's all about.

Uncle Ben

Thanks UB appreciate the positive feedback.

 

[zack66]

Yumm what kind?


~C That Cat?

Fem purple kush from BC seed king

 

[Uncle Ben]

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I made it large so one can clearly see where the focal point is on a parabolic reflector. Very evenly distributes light though.

Was bored, so I looked at that diagram a bit more. There is no way that you're gonna get perfect angles downward. For starts, the point of light emittance would be further towards the opening and the light reflected would be skewed all over the place, primarily on a horizontal plane, not vertical. If the parabola was more normal, commercial, it would be flatter increasing a flare out of light, not directional.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Was bored, so I looked at that diagram a bit more. There is no way that you're gonna get perfect angles downward. For starts, the point of light emittance would be further towards the opening and the light reflected would be skewed all over the place, primarily on a horizontal plane, not vertical. If the parabola was more normal, commercial, it would be flatter increasing a flare out of light, not directional.

I noticed the same thing originally, but didn't want to get in a big debate over it.

 

[stumpjumper]

 

[Sir.Ganga]

Ok, let's change pushes to supports, anyone who supports AN will never get my attention.

Thats too bad...an open mind will only make you a better grower/person. Until I find another product that works as well or is as cost effective I will galdly push(support) change.

There are 2 types of growers, one that just wants smoke and the others that need to understand and is willing to go the extra mile for their HOBBY.

 

[colonuggs]

This is currently the most efficient reflector available. It's a hybrid between the two technologies. Welcome to the brave new world!

See the post above and welcome to the Land of Cannabis Stupidity.

Well UB.... watch the video... welcome to present day advances...just bought 4 of these to drop in a 10x10 tent

[video=youtube;2zVzgPPDTsE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zVzgPPDTsE[/video]

 

[Uncle Ben]

Well UB.... watch the video... welcome to present day advances...just bought 4 of these to drop in a 10x10 tent

"Present day advances"? That's the biggest sales pitch I've ever seen. Curious, do ya get a free liter of Brawndo with every order?

Look fellers, I'll say it again. You may be a sucker for the next sales pitch that comes along, not me. If you want to convince me of anything related to cannabis products, you have to give me a test done by a non-partisan organization, preferably a university.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Well UB.... watch the video... welcome to present day advances...just bought 4 of these to drop in a 10x10 tent

"Present day advances"? That's the biggest sales pitch I've ever seen. Curious, do ya get a free liter of Brawndo with every order?

Look fellers, I'll say it again. You may be a sucker for the next sales pitch that comes along, not me. If you want to convince me of anything related to cannabis products, you have to give me a test done by a non-partisan organization, preferably a university.

Isn't a retailer who sells all brands of indoor lighting gear considered non-partisan? Which party would they subscribe to? I only ask because as you know Greners has already done this test. They show that it is the most efficient hood for light, but not for your $.

 

[akula]

Isn't a retailer who sells all brands of indoor lighting gear considered non-partisan?

The answer to that question is a resounding no. In fact a retailer would be the last source you could expect to be anywhere near biased. They will, however, find a 1001 ways to fluff up the products they do resell. If they do "highly" recommend one of their contracted brands over others it is more likely to do with higher sales commissions with one brand compared to another or special kickbacks provided from the manufacturer. Of course there is a fine line of a retail company selling cheap ass junk and promoting it as quality for sales compared to their own reputation, but that usually comes with the retail brand selection in the first place.

Its a bit puzzling to me that you would even assume that a retail business sector be a "non partisan" when their only objective is to sell you at almost any cost. I thought that was pretty much a unwritten fact. As in "we know they are going to lie to us, we know their bullshit is simply a sales tactic, but we will pretend we are interested in the crap they have to feed to us". Of course I still dont know what this has to do with the topic.