mountainboy
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Guys WTF? nice job hijacking this guys thread! If you have a question PLEASE! start your own thread. NOT COOL!
please help why are my leaves curing down n turnig a dark green (PICS)!!!!!
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Fair point, but they do seem to be two similar issues. Though the original poster didn't seem to want to listen too much to good advice...almost certainly he was over watering his plant - simple - but he apparently wanted to find a more complicated reason for his problem. Hopefully he's been reading the follow up and will now take some advice...?
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Fair point, but they do seem to be two similar issues. Though the original poster didn't seem to want to listen too much to good advice...almost certainly he was over watering his plant - simple - but he apparently wanted to find a more complicated reason for his problem. Hopefully he's been reading the follow up and will now take some advice...?
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mountainboy
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It wasn't an over watering issue for the original poster . He is having a Ph & lock out issue. The second guy,yes that looks like over watering, or his EC is so high,hes experiencing reverse osmosis in the plant.
It wasn't an over watering issue for the original poster . He is having a Ph & lock out issue. The second guy,yes that looks like over watering, or his EC is so high,hes experiencing reverse osmosis in the plant.
There is no ph problem and there is no 'lock-out' either. That's just plain wrong. This is the first post in the thread, in case you never read it.
He's growing in a 5 gallon pot - that's massive for such a small plant, and he's not feeding it - which is right at this stage. The most likely cause is over watering (his plant just went 2 weeks without water - that tells me there was a lot of water available, no?) - the only other factor might be that he's put a young plant into a medium too rich in nutrient for one so young and the thing has fertilizer burn - that's why there are such things as seed and potting compost - and potting-on compost - and media for mature plants - because they need different things at different stages of their lives. It ain't rocket science and it ain't ph or 'lock-out' either.
mountainboy
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You better go back and read the whole post, I've been with this guy since page 1. He watered with 6.8 phed water,that doesent mean the soil ph is 6.8. If the soil is to hot (EC to high),the ph is going to alot lower and cause a problem. If he's watering every 2 weeks, I doubt highly that its over watering. I think he just isnt sure how or when to water correctly. You would see that if you read the whole post. I dont just jump in and say stuff,now go back and read all 5 pages and maybe you will learn something.
P.S. don't try and jump down my throat and tell me I'm wrong. I have more then likely forgotten more then you will ever know.
You better go back and read the whole post, I've been with this guy since page 1. He watered with 6.8 phed water,that doesent mean the soil ph is 6.8. If the soil is to hot (EC to high),the ph is going to alot lower and cause a problem. If he's watering every 2 weeks, I doubt highly that its over watering. I think he just isnt sure how or when to water correctly. You would see that if you read the whole post. I dont just jump in and say stuff,now go back and read all 5 pages and maybe you will learn something.
P.S. don't try and jump down my throat and tell me I'm wrong. I have more then likely forgotten more then you will ever know.
mountainboy
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hard to tell from pics,have you tried wipeing it off,looks like PM on the bottom leaves. Hard to tell on that pic.Hi, I just thought i'd add a photo of my plant while you guys are on the topic.. There are some yellow/light green specs around the leaves i was just wondering would anyway know what this is? I only get the chance to water this plant twice a day sometimes only once, water deficiency or something else? Seems like there's a couple experts on this forum all help would be much appreciated
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Bakatare666
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Dude!Hi, I just thought i'd add a photo of my plant while you guys are on the topic.. There are some yellow/light green specs around the leaves i was just wondering would anyway know what this is? I only get the chance to water this plant twice a day sometimes only once, water deficiency or something else? Seems like there's a couple experts on this forum all help would be much appreciated
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I know you're new and all, but it's really fucking rude and frowned upon to jack someone else's thread like that.
I don't know any plant that size unless it's out in the desert that might need water twice a day.
dude carlosgez man please start your own topic bro, no offense but i hate when people post on mine and talk about there issues so please start your own topic this is a forum for after all plenty of room to go around
and i carfully re-transplanted her with the same soil my guess is that my ph was off and was giving her some kind of lock-out and i noticed when i took her out that none of her roots where moving out-ward and was staying in the same spot so i moved the roots out of the compact soil around her and when i get this ph kit which should come in wensday or thursday ill ph the water and go from there also i noticed that the roots where kinda brown idk if its from the dirt or the ph i was giving her and ideas on that man
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guys please i need help if carlos needs help he can start his own thread its fuckin annyoing as fuck reading 2 diffirent things so if you guys Can ONLY help ME id appricate it and dont help carlos unless he posts a thread its SOOO FUCKIN confusing reading 2 diffrent things and Jackmac im open to any advice man really thanks again
and i carfully re-transplanted her with the same soil my guess is that my ph was off and was giving her some kind of lock-out and i noticed when i took her out that none of her roots where moving out-ward and was staying in the same spot so i moved the roots out of the compact soil around her and when i get this ph kit which should come in wensday or thursday ill ph the water and go from there also i noticed that the roots where kinda brown idk if its from the dirt or the ph i was giving her and ideas on that man
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guys please i need help if carlos needs help he can start his own thread its fuckin annyoing as fuck reading 2 diffirent things so if you guys Can ONLY help ME id appricate it and dont help carlos unless he posts a thread its SOOO FUCKIN confusing reading 2 diffrent things and Jackmac im open to any advice man really thanks again
Bakatare666
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Sorry man, I missed it if you did say it since I've been skimming the posts, but do you have perlite in your mix?
Perlite will help the soil drain and breathe better, and also loosen it up so the roots can grow easily.
If you just have a small rootball, it probably means your soil has been staying wet enough in the middle, right under the main stem, causing the roots to not have to grow in search of moisture.
You've got a weird one here, everything so far has sounded entirely feasible, but too much moisture retention would be my guess with what you just said.
*EDIT* A small rootball could also be because (I remember you saying something about not having another mid size container?) of going into a container that was larger than it was ready for.
mountainboy
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Hey Rebs, I just bitched at jack, want to make sure I'm right with one thing. Where you testing the run off ph or just the ph of the water b4 hand. Thanks. As far as your root color we would need pics. where they just brown or brown and rotting,slimy?
its ok man im open to any advice and hes wrong thinking im not taking any advice in cause i am, and now no i didnt check the run-off ph i only tested the ph before watering and no the roots didnt look slimy brown or anything just a little bit brown didnt want to keep her out of the soil that long, the only reason why i did a carful transplant is cause i might have a ph lock out problem ya kno
also should i try and put her in a smaller pot? i found this pot im not too sure if this would work but i say it beats her being in the pot i have now
let me know if i should and ill transplant her asap!
also should i try and put her in a smaller pot? i found this pot im not too sure if this would work but i say it beats her being in the pot i have now
let me know if i should and ill transplant her asap!
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edispliff its not overwatering i water my plants every 2 weeks plz re read my thread, i think/sure i got a ph/lockout issue here also that my pot maybe too big for her making her retain alot of water since i posted this thread and the advice ive been getting..
i just wanna kno if this pot would be better off for her
i just wanna kno if this pot would be better off for her
It's over watering ffs! it's too wet!!!!! Look, you even said it up there ^^^^ also that my pot maybe too big for her making her retain alot of water - and who put the water in there? The water fairy? Come on man. That's about five or six people now told you the same.
Yes, put her in a smaller pot - maybe six or ten litre (that's 1-2 gallon to you), mix 15-20% perlite into your soil and place it in the pot, gently firming every three or four inches as you place it in. Make sure the pot has good drainage and away you go. Water, no food because your soil is full of it, as required - that means let the pot dry out quite well between waterings, get some air on those roots - wet/dry, wet/dry, wet/dry - like that. Use the visuals and the weight of the pot to determine how much moisture there is, the more you do it, the more you'll be able to tell the difference. You'll see improvement in a week or so - don't listen to all this rubbish about ph lock-out - it's a load of bollocks! Do the right thing!
Good luck!
Edit: ps And while I'm at it, water little and often - do not throw litres of water at it and think that'll be alright for a couple of weeks, because that's what you've been doing and you're rotting the roots from TOO MUCH WATER - little and often, wet/dry....try to nurse her back to health and come back in a week to let us know, brown roots are not a good sign, but they are a sign of.....?
Ooh, touchy aren't we? I've read all of it pal. Stop confusing the op and making things more complicated than they are. Oh, and while we're chucking silly appeals to authority about - I'm a agri/horticulture professional, but only for 30 years though
Robfather
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Pics or it didn't happen^^ LOL
Bakatare666
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Like I said, to me, I think, even though he says he judges watering time by weight, I think the peat is holding a big ball of water right in the middle of the pot where the root ball is.
I know once peat gets wet, it's hard to dry it out unless you're mixing it in a bucket so the wet surface area is there to evap.
Bakatare666
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Too small by the looks of it, you would be squishing the roots into it, if you have any kind of rootball for the height of the plant.
What I would suggest, is pulling the plant, knocking off as much peat as you can without too much disturbing of the roots, and mix some soil and Perlite, and put back in the pot it's currently in, then amend your watering habits.
Take note if the rootball seems wet in the middle.
*NOTE* When I transplant, I take a sharp kitchen knife, and slice a cross in the bottom of the rootball, so I can open it up, and spread it over a mound of dirt in the middle of the new pot.
When I do this, my plants do not even seem to show any slowed growth from the shock like they sometimes will, and it lets the roots get a good start at growing outwards.
What I would suggest, is pulling the plant, knocking off as much peat as you can without too much disturbing of the roots, and mix some soil and Perlite, and put back in the pot it's currently in, then amend your watering habits.
Take note if the rootball seems wet in the middle.
*NOTE* When I transplant, I take a sharp kitchen knife, and slice a cross in the bottom of the rootball, so I can open it up, and spread it over a mound of dirt in the middle of the new pot.
When I do this, my plants do not even seem to show any slowed growth from the shock like they sometimes will, and it lets the roots get a good start at growing outwards.
That's me done. You've been told what to do, you asked to be told - but you still think you know better. What a waste of effort