my 3 stages of flower

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cloneseed

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cloneseed said:
Started trimming, gonna be a while though... Went from having nothing to do to too much haha. I'll post up numbers when i get finished, there's a fair amout of whispy stuff but i think regardless i'll be satisfied based on what i was working with!
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Finished with everything tonight. Smallest plant was 40.1g, next was 61.5g, and my largest was 115.8g, and an additional 36g of whispy buds. Grand total of 253.4g, again only one system with only three plants under one 600w light. Not bad! More than I was expecting, plus I know how everything works now :hump:
 
sky rocket

sky rocket

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cloneseed said:
Finished with everything tonight. Smallest plant was 40.1g, next was 61.5g, and my largest was 115.8g, and an additional 36g of whispy buds. Grand total of 253.4g, again only one system with only three plants under one 600w light. Not bad! More than I was expecting, plus I know how everything works now :hump:
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nice. Was that wet or dry weight? Also what strain, from seed or clones, and how long did you veg for?
 
zer0ed

zer0ed

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superstoner1 said:
One of the few times I will disagree with old dude. I went to the large igloo cooler, about 35gal, but it will be replaced with 50gal smart bin next remodel.I am doing longer veg cycle though and more plants and remodel will include adding a fourth flower system.
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Wait. . ..
If i do 2, double stacked 28 gallon bins. . . .
That would give me the 50 gallons of rez between the two veg systems.
and i would be able to tweek the veg formula between the two side by side systems.
it a way, wouldnt that be better, or equal to using the 50 gal?

are there any down sides to that, besides needing two pumps?
and needing to manage the ph, ect?

i plan on doing a tent, but since im going to just start off with one tent, i imagine im going to have super long veg times, just for the fact that my plants don't have anywhere to go until the 8+ weeks it takes to flower.

I was thinking of eventually getting a second tent, and doing a flip box for the second tent.
and then if that goes well, maybe get two more tents, or a large two light tent. and doing the flip box from the two sets of lights.

anyone have any experience, or opinions on flip boxes?
 
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cloneseed

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sky rocket said:
nice. Was that wet or dry weight? Also what strain, from seed or clones, and how long did you veg for?
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Dry weight. The strains are an unknown indica dominant hybrid, started from some seeds that were given to me. Some sort of OG cross, but couldn't give you the exact genetics. I originally started with six, but three turned out male. I vegged for about 25 days. The largest plant either topped itself or just has a tendency to grow multiple main colas, I'll find out when I switch them to flower in a few days!
 
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cloneseed

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zer0ed said:
Wait. . ..
If i do 2, double stacked 28 gallon bins. . . .
That would give me the 50 gallons of rez between the two veg systems.
and i would be able to tweek the veg formula between the two side by side systems.
it a way, wouldnt that be better, or equal to using the 50 gal?

are there any down sides to that, besides needing two pumps?
and needing to manage the ph, ect?

i plan on doing a tent, but since im going to just start off with one tent, i imagine im going to have super long veg times, just for the fact that my plants don't have anywhere to go until the 8+ weeks it takes to flower.

I was thinking of eventually getting a second tent, and doing a flip box for the second tent.
and then if that goes well, maybe get two more tents, or a large two light tent. and doing the flip box from the two sets of lights.

anyone have any experience, or opinions on flip boxes?
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I'm running two tents right now, one 4x8 for flower and one 2x4 for veg and cloning. My first run I double stacked 27gal strongboxes for the vegger. Any time I needed to throw an ice bottle to the res (my temps would get in between 74 and 78, not good!), I had to disconnect everything and move stuff around to get into the bottom, which was time-consuming and really a pain. I've now built a little frame using 2x4's to hold the top box about six inches above the bottom one, and use a drain/tube set like SS's to drain the top box, leaving a gap between the two wide enough to easily lift the lid and throw in some frozen bottles.

Anyway, my vegging plants get pretty huge, by the end of the third week I have the lights lifted to the top of the tent and can't raise them anymore, if the plants hit the bulbs (using Sun Blaze T5's) they start to burn the tops (and this was before building the frame). So, there are a few height issues using tents to consider, and the 50 gal res's are a lot taller than the strongboxes. I would bet it's the plants genetics contributing to their height more than anything, but just food for thought through my personal experience so far.
 
georgeforeman

georgeforeman

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superstoner1 said:
One of the few times I will disagree with old dude. I went to the large igloo cooler, about 35gal, but it will be replaced with 50gal smart bin next remodel.I am doing longer veg cycle though and more plants and remodel will include adding a fourth flower system.
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4th system and more new strains...you make me feel like i am falling behind. I think its time to add that 3rd system here :)
 
oceangreen

oceangreen

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superstoner1 said:
One of the few times I will disagree with old dude. I went to the large igloo cooler, about 35gal, but it will be replaced with 50gal smart bin next remodel.I am doing longer veg cycle though and more plants and remodel will include adding a fourth flower system.
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the 35 gal is fine. It does the job well.


DEf add the fourth system... every 2 weeks. lets go!
 
oceangreen

oceangreen

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zer0ed said:
(just finished building the cloner)

im getting ready to try to build a SS type vegger.
I got the big 50ish gallon hinged hard box.
and im thinking of sitting two of the 27 gallon strong boxes over them.
im thinking of building some kind of frame to sit the 27 gallon boxes on.
and maybe trying to do maybe some kind of large ebb and flow drain that i can have the pvc sprayer pipe run up though the drain?
I need to go back to the begining of the thread to see if you said exactly how you did it.

Any advice before i start?
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dont put it the totes of a big res. will be a mess. do it right like SS and I, with proper drainainge and t5's and all

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oceangreen

oceangreen

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SS, FREAKIN STILL GETTING A 50% clone rate in the cloner. WTF IS GOING ON!

Help.. Doing it to the T

am I missing someting
 
superstoner1

superstoner1

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Man, that is just one of those things that we have seen with some people. May be the local water or could be something bad in the environment.
 
oceangreen

oceangreen

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superstoner1 said:
Man, that is just one of those things that we have seen with some people. May be the local water or could be something bad in the environment.
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i gotta get this sh1t sorted...
my i need to lower water temps and change interval on timers? i got 1 on 5 off right now... ppp is quick, my kberry only 3 so far out of 18
 
oceangreen

oceangreen

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thinking of using rapid rooters or something, changing interval, lowering water temp.

thats all i can do really....

nothign to it, using manifold with 8 sprayers, 23 sites, 400gph pump, 1 on/5 off interval, and cfl 6500k 60w- 100w

fill tote 1/4 full..

take cuttling from lower branches, cut a 45 as best as possible, using razer blade.
into neoprene and go..

denboschVeg.jpg
 
supchaka

supchaka

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oceangreen said:
thinking of using rapid rooters or something, changing interval, lowering water temp.

thats all i can do really....

nothign to it, using manifold with 8 sprayers, 23 sites, 400gph pump, 1 on/5 off interval, and cfl 6500k 60w- 100w

fill tote 1/4 full..

take cuttling from lower branches, cut a 45 as best as possible, using razer blade.
into neoprene and go..

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400gph is WAY overkill for cloning. Put a smaller pump in there and run it 24/7 Ive never seen anyone have good results aero cloning with an off cycle. Smaller pump will lower the water temps too. Just my .02

Looking at your pic though, I dont know are you running all those totes off one pump? If thats the case then I dunno.
 
sky rocket

sky rocket

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supchaka said:
400gph is WAY overkill for cloning. Put a smaller pump in there and run it 24/7 Ive never seen anyone have good results aero cloning with an off cycle. Smaller pump will lower the water temps too. Just my .02

Looking at your pic though, I dont know are you running all those totes off one pump? If thats the case then I dunno.
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supchaka this was 21 days I let clones stay in the aero cloner with 1 minute on 5 minutes off. 15/17 popped roots. 88% success rate.
 

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