True HP Aero For 2011
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Trichy Bastard
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Probably- but I do both so sue me... LOL
Anonymouse7
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Wow, I just can't stand to see this masterpiece sit dormant for over two weeks! I guess I have to finally break my silence...
Happy New Year, Trichy! I guess it's True HP Aero for 2013 now. Thank you for this thread. I have read it from beginning to end, as many others have before me, and how many other people should, before posting any dumb questions! I am reluctant to post in general, as I fear my country's laws, police, and government. However, I must say something to indicate my gratitude for your writing, your research, and all of those who inspired you...
Speaking of dumb questions, I don't have any... That is thanks again to Trichy, and TreeFarmer, and Atomizer, Mike Young, Auto44, Aerojunkie, Fatman, John Guest, HUGE thanks to Cavadge, wherever he is, thanks to anyone I forgot, and a special weird blue font thankyou to PetFlora, who has got to be one of the most prolific posters out there! Pet, even though you're doing things a little bit differently than the rest of these guys, your THOUSANDS of Aero posts helped me find all those mentioned above.
My one Aero regret? I think I came too late to read anything by G-Love. It all seems to have disappeared from the web. If I'm missing something, and someone could point me in the right direction, I would love to read his stuff too, so I could send him out a big Thank You too...
Happy New Year everybody. May good fortune come to you all.
Happy New Year, Trichy! I guess it's True HP Aero for 2013 now. Thank you for this thread. I have read it from beginning to end, as many others have before me, and how many other people should, before posting any dumb questions! I am reluctant to post in general, as I fear my country's laws, police, and government. However, I must say something to indicate my gratitude for your writing, your research, and all of those who inspired you...
Speaking of dumb questions, I don't have any... That is thanks again to Trichy, and TreeFarmer, and Atomizer, Mike Young, Auto44, Aerojunkie, Fatman, John Guest, HUGE thanks to Cavadge, wherever he is, thanks to anyone I forgot, and a special weird blue font thankyou to PetFlora, who has got to be one of the most prolific posters out there! Pet, even though you're doing things a little bit differently than the rest of these guys, your THOUSANDS of Aero posts helped me find all those mentioned above.
My one Aero regret? I think I came too late to read anything by G-Love. It all seems to have disappeared from the web. If I'm missing something, and someone could point me in the right direction, I would love to read his stuff too, so I could send him out a big Thank You too...
Happy New Year everybody. May good fortune come to you all.
GreenThumbSucker
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Question:
What is a good starting PPM for vegetative in HP aero? You can see what Im doing by clicking on my signature link. Never did any kind of aero before, so it's all new to me.
Thanks,
GTS
What is a good starting PPM for vegetative in HP aero? You can see what Im doing by clicking on my signature link. Never did any kind of aero before, so it's all new to me.
Thanks,
GTS
Anonymouse7
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Hey GTS, this probably isn't the simple answer that you are looking for, but if you take the time to back up and read this whole thread from the beginning, plus the thread by "cavadge" called "Project - forget the fogger, I'm going HP aero" (google it) PLUS the thread by Tree Farmer called "MY True HP Aero Plug&Play Pods" (google it) and you will find ALL the answers that you seek, many times over.
I highly recommend reading all of the aforementioned stuff if you are really interested in HP Aero. As has been repeated a few times in this thread by Trichy and others, if you're just looking for quick answers / easy results, this may not be the growing style for you.
Hope this helps! Good luck!
Anonymouse7
P.S. 200 - 300 PPM may be a good starting point for small rooted clones going into Veg for the first time... but as I said before, you should research a fair bit more before jumping headfirst in to this style of growing... the answers are not all that simple...
P.P.S. Anyone else feel like chiming in?
GreenThumbSucker
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My system is up and running now, I'm keeping it as simple as possible this run. I will probably drench for 10 seconds then dry for 2 minutes this time around. Once I can finish a crop, I will start looking into fine tuning. Thanks, I will keep reading.
bicit
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A quick question, what is the water consumption of a run-to-waste HPA setup compared to a traditional DWC setup? Assuming similar environmental and lighting conditions of course.
I'm still reading the other threads. Some very interesting stuff and I'm going to have to give it a shot here in the next few months.
I'm still reading the other threads. Some very interesting stuff and I'm going to have to give it a shot here in the next few months.
Mike Young
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Posted 2 days ago. http://denver.craigslist.org/hab/3472210151.html Anybody in the Denver area? Likely not many of these made it to the states. 
Anonymouse7
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I think you're on the right track - when starting out I believe it's best to err on the side of "too wet". You'll probably have great results. Once you start playing with an accumulator, pressure switch and solenoids, then the fun (and fine tuning) really starts.
Anonymouse7
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I wish. Wow, what a price, too - almost too good to be true!Posted 2 days ago. http://denver.craigslist.org/hab/3472210151.html Anybody in the Denver area? Likely not many of these made it to the states.
Mike Young
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I inquired about it, and according to the seller, about 30 units made it to the states. I'm intrigued as to his knowledge, and hope to squeeze some more info out of him.
As far as drenching goes, 10 seconds is more than enough to accomplish that. 3 seconds on would likely suffice. I would also suggest starting at a lower ppm than 300. 150 would be a better starting point, as to not burn your babies.
As far as drenching goes, 10 seconds is more than enough to accomplish that. 3 seconds on would likely suffice. I would also suggest starting at a lower ppm than 300. 150 would be a better starting point, as to not burn your babies.
GreenThumbSucker
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Took em out of the aero system and put them in a DWC tote so they can drop some roots, then I will put them back into the aero. The roots that are dropping in the aero system are very fine tiny and fragile. I need a tap root, so once I see then all dropping it's back into the aero system.
Trichy Bastard
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Welcome Anonymouse7! Glad you did your reading and research! G-love is long gone, however his journals are still findeable on UK420, search for his name and find his journal entries... Look forward to hearing your progress and sorry I have been so busy in my personal life, however I am ready to fiberglass my new chamber and should get to it any day soon lol...
Trichy Bastard
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Hey GreenThumbSucker!... Welcome as well... Like Mikey says, 150 ppm on the .7 scale is a good starting point... I'll sub to your thread now...
Trichy Bastard
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Well said! I also read all the threads prior to starting my own - understanding the underlying principles is paramount, otherwise you'll just be spinning your wheels asking questions that are already in print here...
Trichy Bastard
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That may be wayy too much, however each setup is different and your variables are too, meaning there is no set spray times that can be used in every system for the same results, what matters are some of the target formulas Atomizer has mentioned, and using your ability to read the plants.
Trichy Bastard
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HP aero has very little waste when properly dialed in, I only lose a few ounces per day in runoff in my 8 plant chamber... Hydro is very wasteful when you have to drain and refill your rez... Not to mention how great it is to not have to constantly monitor your PH and PPM, and keep the nasties at bay...
Trichy Bastard
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(If it's the same dude) I enquired almost 6 months ago- he is only selling a single nozzle and a timer for that price, not even the chamber, it's way too much... And now I wonder if it might be a scam since he is still listing it, I was scammed on some HP nozzles by a guy named Terry ironically- but he was in Cali Craiglist...Posted 2 days ago. http://denver.craigslist.org/hab/3472210151.html Anybody in the Denver area? Likely not many of these made it to the states.
Trichy Bastard
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I don't think you need a "taproot" - the hp rootstructure is different and water roots don't develop the same way... The roots will struggle to adapt to aero after being in DWC. Your mist may be too fine? Are you following the recommendations of using the cubed rockwool and top watering lightly until the roots are established in the mist?
Mike Young
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There was a pic on one of g-loves threads where he cut away all the fluff from the root mass, and there was a ring of tap-roots shooting down. Also, he confirmed that there was a substantial growth spurt once roots hit the mat. I spent the entire day reading through his threads. I feel pretty silly never signing up @ uk420 to see those. Very inspirational stuff! Even when things went terribly wrong, he pulled through with his dignity intact, and some pretty nice nugs. I feel re-inspired. I got a beast of a bush goin in a dwc experiment right now, but I suppose I should soon source a fridge compressor & a propane tank.
Edit: If there's anyone interested in g-loves journals, but don't like signing up to a s-load of websites, pm me and I'll let you use my login. I don't plan on posting there, so I don't much care. You owe it to yourself to see them!