World Of Hempy

Moebius

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Have you ever gauged the thickness of your stems using the hempy method vs. your soil experiences? This was at the very top of an Indy girl.....this is the largest most noticeable trait my plants undergo since moving to "passive hydro" over a year ago. My soil plants never had stems so thick.
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Nice bud.

but. What do you think the whitening at the bottom of the bud was due to? Ive seen this on some of the tops of my plants and put it down to light bleaching, it wouldn't explain why yours look effected at the bottom though.
 

jela10

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What do you think the whitening at the bottom of the bud was due to?
Moebius, that was a "Trinity Kush". The leaf to bud ratio was emmense. That lower area of the bud was sheilded from light by it's own fat-ass Indica leaves. I let the plant grow naturally since it was next to a much taller one. There were buds the size of golf balls deep under heavy foliage that never saw light at all. Those buds were totally "hay" colored but loaded with crystals. It busted a myth however. Buds don't need light themselves to produce THC. Funny though, they darkened up eventually during cure.
 

Moebius

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Moebius, that was a "Trinity Kush". The leaf to bud ratio was emmense. That lower area of the bud was sheilded from light by it's own fat-ass Indica leaves. I let the plant grow naturally since it was next to a much taller one. There were buds the size of golf balls deep under heavy foliage that never saw light at all. Those buds were totally "hay" colored but loaded with crystals. It busted a myth however. Buds don't need light themselves to produce THC. Funny though, they darkened up eventually during cure.
Cool, It was just something I thought I could see in the picture. A tiny patch of white. Nothing really. Curing cures all. lol.

The bud to leaf ration on my V.Kush was great too, had really dense and rockhard buds. Unfortunately the taste wasnt for me.

I know what you mean by buds not needing the light to shine directly on themselves. I noticed on my last run that the buds that grew past my hood seemed to be unaffected by having little light on them.
 

ineverveg

Active Member
I would have gone for the Hesi Coco. Not used it before but since its formulated for coco I would have thought it would have been the one to go for.

Is the bloom formulated for soil? ... You'll have to try it and see, should be ok though.
my new bloom is formulated for hydro, i only went for that because of the res, maybe you're right about the coco nutes though, i think i know whats next on the shopping list,i just spent a small fortune on nutes and some seeds. im joining the purple hempy craze with some querkle from subcool !
 

Moebius

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OK. So when the manufacturers say 'Hydro' what they mean is for 'inert' grow mediums. So these formulas will have to contain everything needed for the plant. N.P.K + micros

Soil formulas, I'm guessing will have less of the N.P.K and micros at different levels because the soil contains some of these anyhow.

and Im guessing Coco would be like half way between these. Its not completely inert and is sometimes enriched with micros. The nute formulas will be specifically tailored for this. Just watch out not to go too strong on the Hydro formulated nutes and you should be cool.
 

drdank50

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my new bloom is formulated for hydro, i only went for that because of the res, maybe you're right about the coco nutes though, i think i know whats next on the shopping list,i just spent a small fortune on nutes and some seeds. im joining the purple hempy craze with some querkle from subcool !
Nice!!! Welcome to the purple club ineverveg! Querkle is a good one, but I haven't grown it myself. I hear the urkle Dom is a VERY slow vegger. I have qrazy train in the mix and just need to sex the two. They both are showing very similar traits. Subcool has some tasty bud though. You'll be happy!
 

Moebius

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Nice!!! Welcome to the purple club ineverveg! Querkle is a good one, but I haven't grown it myself. I hear the urkle Dom is a VERY slow vegger. I have qrazy train in the mix and just need to sex the two. They both are showing very similar traits. Subcool has some tasty bud though. You'll be happy!
You guys may be onto something with the 'Purple' Hempy club. Sounds like fun. Lets do it!
 

Moebius

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Moebius, how's the GDP coming along? Did she start putting on her makeup yet?
Will post a pic in a couple of hours.

No makeup yet. lol. I'm just loving her stature though and am really excited as I to have two clones of her. Those two clones will form the basis of my next run of 80+GDP. .... I have a wonderful vision in my head and steadily working towards it.

My lights are on during the night so I wont be benefiting from lower nightime temps. All the same, I'm expecting purple hues in the next couple of weeks.:roll:

Oh... and Ive just realised only one timer has been giving 12/12, the other two have been coming on an hour later. I was messing with them last week and ' set them up right. :wall:
 

ineverveg

Active Member
Nice!!! Welcome to the purple club ineverveg! Querkle is a good one, but I haven't grown it myself. I hear the urkle Dom is a VERY slow vegger. I have qrazy train in the mix and just need to sex the two. They both are showing very similar traits. Subcool has some tasty bud though. You'll be happy!
I've been a little concerned about my night temps hitting 60 and thought its my best chance to see some colour while its winter, i have only ordered a five pack of querkle but i may get lucky and get a nice pheno for a mother, they wont get much veg and im really only looking for moms out of these!

You guys may be onto something with the 'Purple' Hempy club. Sounds like fun. Lets do it!
I'm in!
 

jela10

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Somebody was talking CO2 a few posts back and I thought I would share a fun DIY project I did a few grows back. This is a fermentation bucket for generating CO2 in smaller enclosed areas like tents/closets. I went to a home brewer store one day and picked up a 2g fermentation bucket (has a tight fitting lid for good seal),a bubbler, rubber stopper and some champagne yeast and yeast conditioner. I boiled 1g of water and added what seemed like 2.5lbs of sugar and cooled it. I added it to the the bucket with the yeast and conditioner. I popped the lid on and added some distilled water to the bubbler and plugged it into the stopper then the lid (acts as a check valve, lets gas out, not in). After a day or two it was burping away, especially when the lights were on and the temperature came up. CO2 is only used during photosynthesis I've heard. After a couple of weeks I added another 1/2g of sugar-water and more yeast conditioner and it bubbled for another 2 weeks. Can't tell you it worked...my grow was up to par with some taller "Sweet Deep Grapefruit" with better than average yield due to their size. I never had any weird smells but I attribute that to the champagne yeast. Bread yeast might get a little funky. The store clerk said champagne yeast was more aggressive for Co2 production and asked me why I wanted to produce CO2. I fumbled with words believe me.
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johnnymcpotts

Active Member
Somebody was talking CO2 a few posts back and I thought I would share a fun DIY project I did a few grows back. This is a fermentation bucket for generating CO2 in smaller enclosed areas like tents/closets. I went to a home brewer store one day and picked up a 2g fermentation bucket (has a tight fitting lid for good seal),a bubbler, rubber stopper and some champagne yeast and yeast conditioner. I boiled 1g of water and added what seemed like 2.5lbs of sugar and cooled it. I added it to the the bucket with the yeast and conditioner. I popped the lid on and added some distilled water to the bubbler and plugged it into the stopper then the lid (acts as a check valve, lets gas out, not in). After a day or two it was burping away, especially when the lights were on and the temperature came up. CO2 is only used during photosynthesis I've heard. After a couple of weeks I added another 1/2g of sugar-water and more yeast conditioner and it bubbled for another 2 weeks. Can't tell you it worked...my grow was up to par with some taller "Sweet Deep Grapefruit" with better than average yield due to their size. I never had any weird smells but I attribute that to the champagne yeast. Bread yeast might get a little funky. The store clerk said champagne yeast was more aggressive for Co2 production and asked me why I wanted to produce CO2. I fumbled with words believe me.
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That's really cool, I was thinking of busting out my Mr. Beer and seeing if it might help in the grow room. Worse case I got beer, best case it helps my grow
 

drdank50

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ahhh so your wife will know about the the oils, cool.

Many of the same Terpenes found in Cannabis are also found in there purest form in essential oils. The idea is to overpower the smell with something less 'dank' ... Take a look at some of these Terpenes to decide what smell you want.

Examples of some common Terpenes found in Cannabis:

-Borneol- menthol, camphor, pine, woody. Can be easily converted into menthol. Found in Cinnamon and Wormwood. It is considered a "calming sedative" in Chinese medicine. It is directed for fatigue, recovery from illness and stress.

-Caryophyllene - spicy, sweet, woody, clove, camphor, peppery. Found in black pepper(15-25%), clove(10-20%) and cotton(15-25%). It binds weakly to CB2 receptor. As a topical it is one of the constituents of clove oil, an anti-inflammatory and analgesic treatment for toothache. In high amounts, it’s a calcium and potassium ion channel blocker. As a result, it impedes the pressure exerted by heart muscles. Since THC does not have a smell, drug dogs are trained to find one, very smelly molecule called Caryophyllene-epoxide!

-Cineole/Eucalyptol- spicy, camphor, refreshing, minty. Found in rosemary, eucalyptus. It is used to increase circulation, pain relief and easily crosses the blood-brain-barrier to trigger fast olfactory reaction. Eucalyptus oil is considered centering, balancing and stimulating. It is possibly the stimulating and thought provoking part of the cannabis smoke stream.

-Delta3Carene- sweet, pine, cedar, woodsy, pungent. A constituent of rosemary, pine and cedar resin. In aroma therapy, cypress oil, high in D-3-carene, is used to dry excess fluids, tears, running noses, excess menstrual flow and perspiration. It may contribute to the dry eye and mouth experienced by some marijuana users.

-Limonene- citrus (orange, tangerine, lemon, and grapefruit), rosemary, juniper, peppermint. Repulsive to predators. Found in the rinds of many fruits and flowers. With the presence of other certain terpenes, Limonene can be an anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, anti-depressant and anti- carcinogen. It can synergistically promote the absorption of other terpenes by quickly penetrating cell membranes. The result can be increased systolic blood pressure. Since Limonene is such a potent anti-fungal and anti-cancer agent, it is thought to protect against aspergillus fungi and carcinogens found in cannabis smoke streams!

-Linolool- floral (spring flowers), lily, citrus and candied spice. Possesses anti-anxiety and sedative properties (also in lavender).

-Myrcene – clove like, earthy, green-vegetative, citrus, fruity with tropical mango and minty nuances. The most prevalent terpene found in most varieties of marijuana, it is also present in high amounts in Mangos, hops, lemon grass, East Indian bay tree, verbena and Mercia. Myrcene is one of the most important chemicals used in the perfumery industry. Because of its pleasant odor, it is occasionally used directly. It’s a building block for menthol, citronella, and geraniol. It possesses antimicrobial, antiseptic, analgesic, antioxidant, anti-carcinogen, anti depressant, anti-inflammatory, and muscle relaxing effects. Myrcene affects the permeability of the cell membranes, allowing more THC to reach brain cells.

-Pinene- Alpha: pine needles, rosemary Beta: dill, parsley, rosemary, basil, yarrow, rose, hops, the familiar odor associated with pine trees and their resins. It is the major component in turpentine and is found in many other plant essential oils including rosemary, sage, and eucalyptus. Pinene can increase mental focus and energy, as well as act as an expectorant, bronchodilator (the smoke seems to expand in your lungs), and topical antiseptic. It easily crosses the blood-brain barrier where it inhibits activity of acetylcholinesterase, which destroys acetylcholine, an information transfer molecule, resulting in better memory. It may counteract THC's activity, which leads to low acetylcholine levels. Largely due to the presence of pinene, rosemary and sage are both considered "memory plants." Concoctions made from their leaves have been used for thousands of years in traditional medicine to retain and restore memory.

-Pulegone- mint, camphor, rosemary, candy. It is implicated in liver damage in very high dosages. It is found in tiny quantities in marijuana. Pulegone is an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor. That is, it stops the action of the protein that destroys acetylcholine, which is used by the brain to store memories.

-Sabinene - Found in oak trees, tea tree oil, black pepper and is a major constituent of carrot seed oil.

-Terpineol- floral, lilac, citrus, apple/orange blossoms, lime. It is a minor constituent of many plant essential oils. It is used in perfumes and soaps for fragrance. It reduces physical motility 45% in lab rat tests… Couch-lock effect?

SOURCE : http://terpenes.weebly.com/
You my friend are a fucking genius! Ordering these up now because even with a carbon filter, outside the room has a slight smell.
 

jela10

Well-Known Member
LOL....I accidentally farted this morning while checking the girls over and was worried that they might uptake some of my freshly purged "Linolool".
I second the genius nomination Moebius!
 

Moebius

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You my friend are a fucking genius! Ordering these up now because even with a carbon filter, outside the room has a slight smell.
lol. A couple of people have asked me about this recently.

I'm loving the essential oils. If you think weed has a strong smell, these are like pure liquid scent. So strong a couple of drops is super effective. Great stuff. :-)
 

drdank50

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I also ordered some supplies to make my Home-made 'Ona' gel. (Its better than the real thing!) cheaper too.

10 various essential oils
3 packs of water absorbing crystals, makes 3 litres.
Polysorbate 20 , to emulsify the oil and water.

I only count 9 here :P So we all get this straight (I know, I'm totally a learn by example kinda guy which is why I love W.O.H), the oils listed are:

- Lavender
- Lemon Grass
- Eucalyptus Galonulus
- Rosemary
- Tree Tea
- L???
- Sweet Orange
- Ylang Ylang
- Bregamo???

Sorry for the butchering, but the flash wasn't helping my cause. :)


Edited:

Would this be the perfect set to get?
 

jela10

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That's really cool, I was thinking of busting out my Mr. Beer and seeing if it might help in the grow room. Worse case I got beer, best case it helps my grow
I personally hate washing the beer bottles for reuse afterward....so you have a great idea there hempy brother!
 

johnnymcpotts

Active Member
Anyone ever try fabric softener liquid to recharge ona gel crystals? I was thinking of trying it when I run out of ona liquid unless its been done and doesn't work well. Any thoughts or experience?
 
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