FlowaMasta's Methodology @ How to Grow Monster pound plants!!! ( Jack H X Skunk )

jazzyjsd18

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Hey flowa, you're seriously makin me wanna do an all perlite grow, dude! And awesome knowledge you're spreadin here! A FEW more questions popped into my head lol. When growing in perlite, how important is it to keep your control buckets water/nute temps down, and how do you regulate it? I want to use XL but is it compatable with h2o2? (Rocks Super Grow has organic matter in it) And btw... are your feed rings drippers or misters? Thanks bro! Keep rockin it!
 

flowamasta

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Damn bro, that's a lot of buds gone in 2 months hahaha! You are a generous man Flowa :-)
lol, It may sound like that but i wish i could be more generous, this weed unfortunately stands out for the naughty reasons.... it is sought after i must admit. I've accidentally left a jar out with Primo colas perfectly manicured and dried to perfection, and i quickly have to hide it ;) I kinda feel like a milk farmer who gets all the cream off the top of the vat... LOL!!

I haven't run out since i started growing so i easily work out what i can and cant smoke, and i even had more than enough that i left for myself as the potency has allowed me to always walk away after 1 cone.
If only i could teleport myself!! My shout :p

Hey flowa, you're seriously makin me wanna do an all perlite grow, dude! And awesome knowledge you're spreadin here! A FEW more questions popped into my head lol. When growing in perlite, how important is it to keep your control buckets water/nute temps down, and how do you regulate it? I want to use XL but is it compatable with h2o2? (Rocks Super Grow has organic matter in it) And btw... are your feed rings drippers or misters? Thanks bro! Keep rockin it!
lol funny stuff! thanx for the compliments, i try to enlighten people, sometimes it can be hard to find solid ganja information suited to your location or needs, i think my system has dumbed it down enough now so it can be easily put together at under $500...

Its just as important to keep your res temps down as this will cycle through the tent and get warm enough, i keep my external 40 litre Res outside the tent not more than 1 metre away. Nothing ever gets clogged i use 14mm feed lines and 19mm return lines and the pot sock keeps out anything larger diamater than that of the feed lines. My Timer is a 24 hour pin timer it will have 1 pin every 15 minutes around the 24hr surface, I feed every 3 hours when the lights are on and every 4 hours after that while night time which stabilizes my humidity in the tent perfectly.i set it so it feeds at a regular rate by the pump which is a 1000 litre per hour pump ( a little over-kill but they wear down to a suitable level ) The feed rings flow they do not drip, they have to flow to generate enough moisture to JUST saturate the entire 50 litre pot in 15 minutes. Res temps stay fairly consistent at around 21 degrees. If you run into 23-24 and above temps, you're in for trouble guaranteed and will have to thin the plant/s out so the fungi doesn't thrive while you fight the infection.

I would imagine XL to defeat absolutely anything other than given nutrients other than nitrogen and potassium, and i do believe ( feel free to quote me on this ;) ) that Rocks Super Grow is actually Sourced from some organic matter, but it has been processed to suit Hydroponics so it has natural acids that are processed by man. It has a similar Ph to Cyco's XL But cycos XL also contains UREA ( A Pure nitrate compound ) and the phosphoric acid used by cyco is SUPER phosphoric acid and is sourced from 99.99% acid not 80% This will eliminate most of the Heat build up from using only phosphoric acid ( basically Ph down. ) They are almost identical to the untrained eye, but used side by side I would think something like Coke vs Pepsi One having alot more fizz and been around alot longer.
 

eastcoastmo

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Ah Flowa, i would very much love to sit down and have a cone of your finest with you, i reckon we'd have a lot of laughs in the process and we'd end up extremely baked as well :-)

I can totally understand being the milkman and having to hide your gear, i had to do it when i was growing as well as i was known for the good stuff! I always had mates at my house too as i had a revolving weed bowl and was home all day :lol: ahh the good ol' days ;)

I must say mate, this is the first time im wishing it was cooler so i could get my grow going again, im that excited to do it the Flowamaster method!!!!

edit- I'll start working on the teleporter captain ;-)
 

The New Jim Jones

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the size of your buds is absurd, all of this hydro mumbo jumbo is incomprehensible to me, this grow makes me want to rethink my whole new setup and just replicate yours, but originality is important. LETS GET HIGH AS FUCK AND TELEPORT TO GANJALAND!!!!!!!!
 

inhaleindica

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Thankyou indica :) feel free to post up a pic, would love to see the comparison, i have found that she is quite unique and exhibits the rare 3 way inter-noding structure instead of the usual 4 even.... I dont think it means much more than it came from a more tropical environment suited for higher humidity, the buds don't go like rock naturally they end up being really nice size dense but light nugs and always frosty all the way to the inside :) so keeping this strain more natural has worked for me well and her buds end up looking gorgeous. I'm stuck with her for a while and i'm so glad!! Ive even had 100% success rate with all my cuts from the last 2 grows.

Cheerz or your input! :)
Cheers. Here are some of my Blue Cheese currently and has 3 more weeks to go before harvest. Between Christmas and New years. They grow solid dense like rocks. The last picture is blackberry kush. I clicked on the wrong picture and tried to remove it. Guess the site didn't want me to :)

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BC from last harvest.

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inhaleindica

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WOAH noce buds Indica :-) sooo frosty! What's the BC you grew in the second last pic? That looks tasty as!
They were all grown in Roots Organics Soil using Dyna-gro. Any nutes works just fine. It is about finding the balance NPK for your plants. Less is more.
 
Amazing setup, I have a few questions, first where do I find these 50 litre Hempy style pots and the sock to fit? Secondly, so you flush the pot with nutrient water for 15 mins every 3hrs? And the line to the pot from the res is just sitting in the perlite at the top? Thanks for the help!
 

flowamasta

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Ah Flowa, i would very much love to sit down and have a cone of your finest with you, i reckon we'd have a lot of laughs in the process and we'd end up extremely baked as well :-)

I can totally understand being the milkman and having to hide your gear, i had to do it when i was growing as well as i was known for the good stuff! I always had mates at my house too as i had a revolving weed bowl and was home all day :lol: ahh the good ol' days ;)

I must say mate, this is the first time im wishing it was cooler so i could get my grow going again, im that excited to do it the Flowamaster method!!!!

edit- I'll start working on the teleporter captain ;-)
At ease ;) I totally agree with you! I can see how easy it could happen for one to gain a reputation in such a position, if they were to always have nothing but stuff like that, it would of been unsettling to know that at a young age knowing how much crap stuff ive wasted money on... not that i regret it or anything i'm glad ive been through each day :)

Damn it must be hot where you are... I got the air cooled hood with the built in 6 inch fan and my ambient can be 21 and my tent can stay at 24 if i wish for it, but i keep my glass slider open about half an inch to allow for extra airflow and a bit of radiant heat lets through and warms the tent enough to evaporate moisture, but i can touch the glass easily with the back of my hand no problem. In the worst of summer last year with this hood it stayed at around 28-29 degrees, and i was stoked because it was always 25-28 inside even with the air con going. Thats night temps for the plant btw, so that blows the theory of having to have your night time temps within 10 degrees cooler. I dont see much stretch either which is usually the case if night temps are hot. If it gets real hot i may see some fox tails.... maybe, the light is pretty close. 7 inches at its closest.

Love to have a bowl someday :)

the size of your buds is absurd, all of this hydro mumbo jumbo is incomprehensible to me, this grow makes me want to rethink my whole new setup and just replicate yours, but originality is important. LETS GET HIGH AS FUCK AND TELEPORT TO GANJALAND!!!!!!!!
Things are going well indeed :) thanx Jim! feel free to copy or replicate to a 'T'!!! this is original in the way that you will not find it documented or the exact method displayed anywhere else. ;) There isn't even a word for my setup haha, well actually...... Flowa's 3 month 1 lb+ (1 plant) dry harvest hehe.....

Is ROLLITUP.ORG BACKING THIS UP!!!??? Grrrrrrrr You better be!! you know if shit goes up again we'll..... we'll just get high and not have a place to talk about it!! :( Time to Back Shit Up ROLLITUP does everyone agree??

Cheers. Here are some of my Blue Cheese currently and has 3 more weeks to go before harvest. Between Christmas and New years. They grow solid dense like rocks. The last picture is blackberry kush. I clicked on the wrong picture and tried to remove it. Guess the site didn't want me to :)

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BC from last harvest.

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They were all grown in Roots Organics Soil using Dyna-gro. Any nutes works just fine. It is about finding the balance NPK for your plants. Less is more.
Picture perfect :) does look a little different from my eyes, but i've seen a fair few strains now, the growth structure does look similar nice stocky genetically perfect space between nodes, Poster material, it weird sometimes growing a strain like this or that... while growing you see the beauty, but you don't really feeeeel the beauty until you smoke it up and you've had a look at the older pics as time goes on. Things happen so fast its hard to imagine!! All you guys have helped me realize i have something special created here and not just another strain :) :)

That Bc ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh droolworth beautiful colouring i can see the flavour :p

Amazing setup, I have a few questions, first where do I find these 50 litre Hempy style pots and the sock to fit? Secondly, so you flush the pot with nutrient water for 15 mins every 3hrs? And the line to the pot from the res is just sitting in the perlite at the top? Thanks for the help!
a hardware store most likely or you may have to shimmy the inside one from a normal outer pot, some places just don't have them by the looks, try ebay if in doubt they are in deed out there as a 2 pot drain setup, just make sure the inside one lines up well and doesn't allow light to penetrate the nutrient as it flows and yes i theoretically 'flush' the whole system with the nutrient every 3 hours, while the light is on then every 4 after that. This keeps things consistent and eliminates salt build up because things DONT dry out which is the first reason for salt build up. To keep a perfect H20/02 ratio you must drench the perlite atleast every 3 hours max 4, that is when salt build up will start to occur when things slowly stagnate in some areas or have less flow. It also depends on how often and well you flush the system with fresh water each week. EVERY WEEK. My res is NEVER cloudy, always crystal clear and the air stone pushes plenty of fresh air from outside of the room.
 

flowamasta

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man i just replied hundreds of words and fukin rollitup got their panties stuck up there asses again. i'll get back to you guys soon

Scratch that. ;) it seems as though it worked.
 

eastcoastmo

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Lol brother, rollitup seems to be having some major issues lately hey! I agree, i hope they get it sorted and are backing it up! Yeah it's definitely getting warm here. Where my tent is though is in a garage that gets full sun from about 1pm in the arvo until sun down so if its 28 outside, my tent is sitting on about 32! On a hotter day it just gets waaaay to warm in there. If i could get aircon in there i'd be set but i couldnt be buggered to be honest! Its cool, i only need one grow a year to sort me out and gives my mate 6 months of free (well almost) weed for his condition! Plus i've got a little outdoory going as well so i'll be more than set! Got a sugar haze going outside which is looking like it will be a really nice early flowering haze! When i get some pics i'll upload them for ya!
 

flowamasta

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Lol brother, rollitup seems to be having some major issues lately hey! I agree, i hope they get it sorted and are backing it up! Yeah it's definitely getting warm here. Where my tent is though is in a garage that gets full sun from about 1pm in the arvo until sun down so if its 28 outside, my tent is sitting on about 32! On a hotter day it just gets waaaay to warm in there. If i could get aircon in there i'd be set but i couldnt be buggered to be honest! Its cool, i only need one grow a year to sort me out and gives my mate 6 months of free (well almost) weed for his condition! Plus i've got a little outdoory going as well so i'll be more than set! Got a sugar haze going outside which is looking like it will be a really nice early flowering haze! When i get some pics i'll upload them for ya!
Yes they certainly are!!, sorry RIU for the snap but they lost heaps of my shit yonks ago right after i eradicated it from my computers memory!!

Hey with the Heat issues i totally hear you, and know of many growers mostly smalltime would you believe, who will even dig trenches to run their ducting from inside the home patio area or somewhere that has fresh cool air and run that to the tent and up through the ground.... very efficient at keeping it cool if atleast 30cm under dirt and sealed ofcourse!! this can surprizingly bring temps down more than a few degrees c. just from adding positive pressure from a fresh air environment, and a whirly up the top of the shed and naturally the heat will get pulled out of the top :) I've sat in some uninsulated sheds that have felt more comfortable than my bedroom LOL ;) very cheap if you got the time and effort to run ducting especially underground...... but its a longshot thought depending on how far away the shed it a few other variables... some sheds just breathe to much to do anything about it except run Bright Arctic White powder-coated sheet metal and insulate the walls and roof!! which is a headfu*k and VERY noisy to setup with pot rivets on metal banging away. BUT it makes for a great environment in my opinion without big costs and complicated calculations talking to people you dont want to know about your 'growing' There is always a way, and i do things bit by bit, or i just shutdown! I'm in constant battle trying to remember ideas and logic. :)
 

inhaleindica

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Picture perfect :) does look a little different from my eyes, but i've seen a fair few strains now, the growth structure does look similar nice stocky genetically perfect space between nodes, Poster material, it weird sometimes growing a strain like this or that... while growing you see the beauty, but you don't really feeeeel the beauty until you smoke it up and you've had a look at the older pics as time goes on. Things happen so fast its hard to imagine!! All you guys have helped me realize i have something special created here and not just another strain :) :)

That Bc ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh droolworth beautiful colouring i can see the flavour :)

Yeah, They grow differently at the end. I was speaking of the white hairs, they have their similarity. Thich short and white hairs every where by 3rd week of flower. I love to trim these buds even though they are pretty leafy. The smell is so pleasing while trimming, also the scissor hash is real tasty. I can't wait to harvest my next batch :).

Yes, smoking it brings out the beauty in it. How well you grew it and how much you have improved from your very first grow is crazy. That is the best thing about cannabis. Every grower has their own special plant that others don't have.
 

eastcoastmo

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Yes they certainly are!!, sorry RIU for the snap but they lost heaps of my shit yonks ago right after i eradicated it from my computers memory!!

Hey with the Heat issues i totally hear you, and know of many growers mostly smalltime would you believe, who will even dig trenches to run their ducting from inside the home patio area or somewhere that has fresh cool air and run that to the tent and up through the ground.... very efficient at keeping it cool if atleast 30cm under dirt and sealed ofcourse!! this can surprizingly bring temps down more than a few degrees c. just from adding positive pressure from a fresh air environment, and a whirly up the top of the shed and naturally the heat will get pulled out of the top :) I've sat in some uninsulated sheds that have felt more comfortable than my bedroom LOL ;) very cheap if you got the time and effort to run ducting especially underground...... but its a longshot thought depending on how far away the shed it a few other variables... some sheds just breathe to much to do anything about it except run Bright Arctic White powder-coated sheet metal and insulate the walls and roof!! which is a headfu*k and VERY noisy to setup with pot rivets on metal banging away. BUT it makes for a great environment in my opinion without big costs and complicated calculations talking to people you dont want to know about your 'growing' There is always a way, and i do things bit by bit, or i just shutdown! I'm in constant battle trying to remember ideas and logic. :)
Man that is actually a top idea hey, very intuitive :) i wish i could do it but im in a rental and my tent is actually in a brick garage, so i wouldnt be able to run anything :( worst part is, on the otherside of the wall where the tent is, is a split system a/c but again its a brick wall! Unfortunately i think its a case of just growing once a year, which is sweet but i itch to grow it as i love doing it so much! I'm definitely going to look into a way of trying to cool it but maybe not for a bit till i get the cash to do so!
 

flowamasta

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Yeah, They grow differently at the end. I was speaking of the white hairs, they have their similarity. Thich short and white hairs every where by 3rd week of flower. I love to trim these buds even though they are pretty leafy. The smell is so pleasing while trimming, also the scissor hash is real tasty. I can't wait to harvest my next batch :).

Yes, smoking it brings out the beauty in it. How well you grew it and how much you have improved from your very first grow is crazy. That is the best thing about cannabis. Every grower has their own special plant that others don't have.
ahh i see now :) yes they are short and fat white hairs, I think this round will have slightly less leaf i'm going HPS until next week (week 5) for swell and resin production which i will be then using a dual spectrum son-t agro lamp which i think massively helps with my trich output and potency. No UVB lamp as yet, tomorrow night i will go in and decide where she shall go. I think i'm heading to one particular area where some already huge fist size colas are....

Just how big are these going to get?!!!

Waiting for harvest is more exciting than Christmas and my harvest will be right about on new years :) :)

Man that is actually a top idea hey, very intuitive :) i wish i could do it but im in a rental and my tent is actually in a brick garage, so i wouldnt be able to run anything :( worst part is, on the otherside of the wall where the tent is, is a split system a/c but again its a brick wall! Unfortunately i think its a case of just growing once a year, which is sweet but i itch to grow it as i love doing it so much! I'm definitely going to look into a way of trying to cool it but maybe not for a bit till i get the cash to do so!
Or once with extra $ build a box the same size of the tent run a/c in that next to the other tent, venting the used ac air ofcourse, but the smaller are makes for easier cooling, and then the ambient air around the tent won't matter so much.

Update time!!!

Day 24 and counting!!! Starting to back things off just slightly now. The light is absolutely maxed out so i can't go any further and the leaves under the lamp show small signs of light bleaching but the buds look otherwise fine. They will indeed grow BIG and slightly crowded. But off to by a new silent (hopefully) over the next week and run ducting directly up into the centre of the canopy, an inline 6 inch will do fine with a basic fan controller set on low.

By backing things off i mean only top up with fresh water and my blueberry nectar. Perfect combo

She is a beautiful DARK GREEN, and her hairs are so bright they are blinding at first. The smell is instant when i open the tent, the carbon filters are doing their job....... so far

Oh, edit: you might see the addition of my older light setup utilized on the side of the tent only turning on for 4 hours from 8pm-12am the underneath needs some energy!! Temp went to 30.1 degrees with the evap cooler going.


 

flowamasta

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fastest growing buds ive ever seen
about on par with last grow same strain :) but always just a tad but different
;) glad you like my plant!! thanx for being here..

LAST GROW BELOW..... Day 24



CURRENT GROW Same time Day 24. She does look better i think. Darker, and more thick with tops.... hmmmmmmmm

 

Shaggn

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Definitely more mass. Look at the amount of heads in the center, just gorgeous, Flowa!!! Keep doin what ya doin, she's lovin it!!
 
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