The UK Growers Thread!

PUKKA BUD

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Nothing against your personal methods Pukka (each to their own) but using the 12/12 time as guide is flawed as it's subjective.

If you flip a plant 12/12 it doesn't start flowering straight away, it takes a good 10-14 days or so for the plant to go through the transition between veg and flower.
When a seedbank lists a strain as being an 8 week flowerer it means exactly that, 8 weeks flowering and not 8 weeks 12/12.
All strains take a different amount of time to go through the transition and stretch so 12/12 can never be accurate.

People not thinking logically and pulling 8 week strains after 8 weeks 12/12 is what causes most growers to have substandard results.

On Tuesday these will have had 6 weeks 12/12 but they certainly won't be finished for at least another 5 weeks, one will take longer than that.
Found the same on my psycho pukka, a bit of bluey purple in the last week or so, mostly on the leaves tho, it was gettin a bit cold the last week or two
It's only flawed if you do what you say mate an chop a plant at what the seedbank says an chop when it's not done like I said I only go 12/12 as a time frame so I no where I'm at an can work out what I'm using when. an the plants get chopped when there done no matter what any fucker says plus I'm growing the psycho which is 9 week "12/12" and the lemon which is 10+....

@mg yeh mate I was thinkin it's the cold temps looks nice I'll try an get a decent pic soon....
 

The Yorkshireman

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It's only flawed if you do what you say mate an chop a plant at what the seedbank says an chop when it's not done like I said I only go 12/12 as a time frame so I no where I'm at an can work out what I'm using when. an the plants get chopped when there done no matter what any fucker says plus I'm growing the psycho which is 9 week "12/12" and the lemon which is 10+..
I was just using the seedbank thing as an example.

If I tell you that my plant has had 5 weeks of 12/12 you don't actually know how long it takes to complete the flower cycle unless I tell you how long it took to go through the stretch/transition stage. As the stretch/transition stage can be manipulated slightly first pistils to done is accurate and why I don't use the 12/12 reference, I completely understand your point of view though.
 

IC3M4L3

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ok matey il order the soil and epson on monday and the rest on thrusday,

left about a q in a jar with lid open over night seems to have dried well,, while teh semll aint all that the buds are pretty tight and iits menna be ok,(gave a joint to sum1) so il hae a joint shortly and tell u if ive really fooked it up or not,

yorkie get me that fooking number, ive only waited a moon so far lmao

off to watch batman

see ya
 

dura72

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ive had the bird and the kids stayin with me for the last 3 days, 4 of us in a one bedroom flat and she asks 'when are you gonna move in with us?'......????? GET YERSELF TAE FUCK, ahm losing the fuckin will to live as it is.
 

PUKKA BUD

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I was just using the seedbank thing as an example.

If I tell you that my plant has had 5 weeks of 12/12 you don't actually know how long it takes to complete the flower cycle unless I tell you how long it took to go through the stretch/transition stage. As the stretch/transition stage can be manipulated slightly first pistils to done is accurate and why I don't use the 12/12 reference, I completely understand your point of view though.
If you tell me how long you plants been "flowering" I'd still not no when it's done its your plant an pheno so it's who's guess when it's done till youve grown it out, an if you told me it took say 6weeks to flower then were banking on me deciding when to start counting it as flower which could be different to you if you told me how long 12/12 I could get it bang on to the day as you an still then I might not think it's done its our own preferences when it's ready how you like ya high.....
 

dura72

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Tell you need your space to study mate. ;)
lol, great minds!! thats what i said, my degree will take 4 years and after that i'll probably go and do post-grad stuff.....think i could maybe palm her off for about the next 15 years or so....by that time the kids will have moved out.
 

The Yorkshireman

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If you tell me how long you plants been "flowering" I'd still not no when it's done its your plant an pheno so it's who's guess when it's done till youve grown it out, an if you told me it took say 6weeks to flower then were banking on me deciding when to start counting it as flower which could be different to you if you told me how long 12/12 I could get it bang on to the day as you an still then I might not think it's done its our own preferences when it's ready how you like ya high.....
Exactly, nobody knows until I've done it but everybodys growing styles are different so if it turns out to be an 8 weeker and I tell you it takes 8 weeks to flower then that takes out any wiggle room for personal style.
If for example you say to me the Exo takes 9 weeks 12/12 but it actually takes 7 weeks to flower and 2 weeks to go through the stretch, If then I can manipulate the stretch/transitional stage by a week I know I can have it done in 8.

It's just me and about giving a more informed timeframe.
 

The Yorkshireman

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The whole buds are going to go redish purple, the same colour as a Wilkinson's bag. lol

Fresh calyx are green but as they get older they change colour.
 

mrt1980

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How much weight lost compared to the resin production gained do you reckon I'd see by swapping the 400w HPS for a MH?

So instead of 600w HPS + 400w HPS it would be 600w HPS + 400w MH.
i know this was yesterday mate but why dont you put some of those uvb reptiglow bulbs in there if your after more resin production? ive seen some good grows with people using them. when i get enough cash ill be getting a set of these
light unit
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Exo-Terra-Light-Unit-2-x-40W-Repti-Glo-Eletronic-Lamp-Controller-/180757997095?pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Reptiles_Spiders_Insects&hash=item2a16042627
bulbs
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Exo-Terra-Repti-Glo-10-0-UV-Tube-40W-42-PT2174-Reptile-/270568799900?pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Reptiles_Spiders_Insects&hash=item3eff283e9c
 
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