Nothing but Flower Bloomers?

[LoRd MeGaTR0N31]

When you start flowering can you just have bloom nutes? Like the only nutes I have now is Big Bud, Bud Candy, Bud Blood

 

[ru4r34l]

You will also need your base nutrients.

regards,

 

[LoRd MeGaTR0N31]

Something Like Advance Nutrients Grow, Micro, Bloom?

You will also need your base nutrients.

regards,

 

[Silicity]

all i use is snow storm ultra, crystal burst, and cal mag+, you dont need base nutrients if your water is already good in ppm and wether or not your plants a light or heavy feeder.

 

[Bublonichronic]

id keep the veg nutes in the feed for the first week or 2 of flower, they eat alot of N then...but yea, your base would be iguana juice, seni grow//bloom, connoisseur or wahtever els AN has as a base

 

[unlucky]

did you get buds on veg food/did your plant look lush on veg food/why did you start giving it booster ?

why not start and finish on veg food only ?

 

[Silicity]

why continue to use vegetive nutrient lines for flowering? yes they have nearly the same kinds of nutrients but quite a few flowering supplements have additives that more affect flowering growth like triacontanol in snow storm ultra, now you can pull of a dank harvest with veg nutes but as your plant transitions from veg to flower your plant requires more magnesium, phosphorous, and potassium which flowering nutes contain more of and less nitrogen/calcium.

 

[ru4r34l]

Something Like Advance Nutrients Grow, Micro, Bloom?

Yup, like Bublonichronic said any other veg products will do just fine.

why continue to use vegetive nutrient lines for flowering? yes they have nearly the same kinds of nutrients but quite a few flowering supplements have additives that more affect flowering growth like triacontanol in snow storm ultra, now you can pull of a dank harvest with veg nutes but as your plant transitions from veg to flower your plant requires more magnesium, phosphorous, and potassium which flowering nutes contain more of and less nitrogen/calcium.

N, and flowering additives are just that additives

regards,

 

[unlucky]

why continue to use vegetive nutrient lines for flowering? yes they have nearly the same kinds of nutrients but quite a few flowering supplements have additives that more affect flowering growth like triacontanol in snow storm ultra, now you can pull of a dank harvest with veg nutes but as your plant transitions from veg to flower your plant requires more magnesium, phosphorous, and potassium which flowering nutes contain more of and less nitrogen/calcium.

​you say that but if you did a side by side grow then you will be saying veg nutes from start to finish. if you get no nute deficiency using veg food then why add boosters or flower food ?

 

[Silicity]

from experience with a side by side i always gotten phosphorous, magnesium, and potassium problems but it varied per strain. i give my plants sensi grow a and b at around week 5 for the extra nitrogen and overall i dont need the flowering line as i have enough nutes in my supplements and like you say why not use veg nutes. honestly i dont recommend giving your plant just a 2 part base vegging nutrient throughout the flowering line because there is PGR's which are non carcinogenic that affect growth that aid in flower production/trichome production and are specificcally found in flowering supplements even though you can make your own.

yes you can use veg nutes 100% through flower but there are better options and you run risk of other deficiencies.

 

[LoRd MeGaTR0N31]

What is snow storm ultra and crystal burst do you have pics of a grow where you use them?

all i use is snow storm ultra, crystal burst, and cal mag+, you dont need base nutrients if your water is already good in ppm and wether or not your plants a light or heavy feeder.

 

[Silicity]

the strain im growing now i have 1 plant under a 400w hps with it being SCRoGed and it is being given only crystal burst, cal mag, and snow storm and its only week 4 /12 with every leaf but maybe 2 with solid healthy green, the strain has started bursting with crystals and ill get some pics of the bud up close, its also a 11-12 week strain and im impressed with it.

i then have the same strain being grown in coco but with AN connoisseur, big bud, voodoo juice, mother earth tea, over drive and b52. i would say the coco plants look even healthier than the 400wer but not as much bud production for where they are at, and then i have 1 plant grown in the same soil as the 400w plant but given the same nutes as the coco and it is showing signs of problems, which have been corrected.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/576060-s-g-e-mk-ultra.html

 

[keep it real.]

I think good quality nutes is all you need veg and bloom and something for micro, I slowly switch over from veg to Bloom I always add more veg then bloom for the first 3 weeks or until the stretch is over or what the plant tells me, listen to the plant, not bottles or people.

 

[LoRd MeGaTR0N31]

How do you stop the stretch? i DONT want it to stretch.

I think good quality nutes is all you need veg and bloom and something for micro, I slowly switch over from veg to Bloom I always add more veg then bloom for the first 3 weeks or until the stretch is over or what the plant tells me, listen to the plant, not bottles or people.

 

[Silicity]

Phototropism is directional growth in which the direction of growth is determined by the direction of the light source. In other words, it is the growth and response to a light stimulus. Phototropism is most often observed in plants, but can also occur in other organisms such as fungi. The cells on the plant that are farthest from the light have a chemical called auxin that reacts when phototropism occurs. This causes the plant to have elongated cells on the farthest side from the light. Phototropism is one of the many plant tropisms or movements which respond to external stimuli. Growth towards a light source is a positive phototropism, while growth away from light is called negative phototropism (or Skototropism). Most plant shoots exhibit positive phototropism, while roots usually exhibit negative phototropism, although gravitropism may play a larger role in root behavior and growth.This is very important!Phototropins are photoreceptor proteins (specifically, flavoproteins) that mediate phototropism responses in higher plants. Along with cryptochromes and phytochromes they allow plants to respond and alter their growth in response to the light environment. Phototropins may also be important for the opening of stomata.Phototropins are autophosphorylating protein kinases that activate in response to blue light. When blue light hits the phototropin protein in the cell membrane, the phototropin protein will unfold and undergo phosphorylation that can cause a cascade of events inside of the cell.Phototropins are part of the phototropic sensory system in plants that causes various environmental responses in plants. Phototropins specifically will cause stems to bend towards light, and stomata to open. Also, phototropins are important in chloroplast movements inside the cell. They also mediate the first changes in stem elongation in blue light (before cryptochromes become active) and phototropin 1 also is required for blue light mediated transcript destabilization of specific mRNAs in the cell.Phototropism in plants such as Arabidopsis thaliana is directed by blue light receptors called phototropins.[1] Other photosensitive receptors in plants include phytochromes that sense red light[2] and cryptochromes that sense blue light.[3] Different organs of the plant may exhibit different phototropic reactions to different wavelengths of light. Stem tips exhibit positive phototropic reactions to blue light, while root tips exhibit negative phototropic reactions to blue light. Both root tips and most stem tips exhibit positive phototropism to red light.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phototropismhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptochromeWith this information and the right wavelengthsCryptochromes are known to possess two chromophores: pterin (in the form of 5,10-methenyl-6,7,8-tri-hydrofolic acid (MHF)) and flavin (in the form of FAD). Both may absorb a photon, and in Arabidopsis, pterin appears to absorb at a wavelength of 380 nm and flavin at 450 nm. Past studies have supported a model by which energy captured by pterin is transferred to flavin.[14] Under this model of phototransduction, FAD would then be reduced to FADH, which probably mediates the phosphorylation of a certain domain in cryptochrome. This could then trigger a signal transduction chain, possibly affecting gene regulation in the cell nucleus.380nm and 450nm we can quite possibly control plant and cell elongation with low powered LED to enabl us to grow short sativa's or short outdoor plants in out greenhouses.

credits to tutu again, blue light during flowering can help control stem elongation and this is a very healthy way to do it without use of PGRs like paclobutrazol and chlormequat chloride which will control stem elongation for sure and can cut off 1-3 weeks flowering time.

chlormequat chloride = bush master by Humboldt counties own
paclobutrazol = gravity by Humboldt counties own

I do not recommend paclobutrazol as it is carcinogenic and can be fatal when heated.

I have not heard much about chlormequat chloride and if it's a serious problem that needs to be controlled I recommend this stuff.

there's also other brands that have these PGRs, but please do research on these and make educated experiments.