Ok. So after about a month of debating on a light, I ordered up an Apollo 8 from Cidly on Friday. My connection there, Sing, seems to believe I will have it by next weekend. Sadly, after scouring the Internet this entire month looking for some real reviews on these suckers, all I could really figure out was they aren't a sham, and they ship their product. There doesn't seem to be any grow journals, or even true, in depth reviews. Hope no one thinks this is a spam post, with it being my first and all. Just figured if we could get some actual experiences with these things, maybe we could find out if you get what you pay for, or if these are just a great light minus all the markup. I'll keep you all posted.