RIP Hostess

[MuyLocoNC]

An organization made up of middle class American workers is unpatriotic to you? Go move to China you anti-american punk.

They sure are, any company should be able to offer employment ON THEIR TERMS. If you don't like those terms, keep walking. The employees don't own those jobs, they don't have ANY right to those jobs, they are the SOLE property of the business owners. Here's what I'm willing to pay and here are the benefits I'm willing to provide, take it or leave it. Business owners should be able to fire the lot of them, with NO consequences at the moment they vote to unionize...period. They shouldn't have to choose between closing their doors or accepting unionization. It's THEIR business.

 

[kelly4]

Maybe working for a bullshit company wasnt worth it for them.

Why didn't they just quit then?

 

[kelly4]

post it again. nobody cares. waaah, waaah, waaah.

What was this last/best/final offer? You'd never know by watching the main stream media tell the story. So here you go...
1) 8% hourly pay cut in year 1 with additional cuts totaling 27% over 5 years. Currently, I make $16.12 an hour at TOP rate of pay in the bakery. I would drop to $11.26 in 5 years.
2) They get to keep our $3+ an hour forever.
3) Doubling of weekly insurance premium.
4) Lowering of overall quality of insurance plan.
5) TOTAL withdrawal from ALL pensions. If you don't have it now then you never will.

Remember how I said I made $48,000 in 2005 and $34,000 last year? I would make $25,000 in 5 years if I took their offer.
It will be hard to replace the job I had, but it will be easy to replace the job they were trying to give me.
That $3+ per hour they steal totaled $50 million last year that they never paid us. They sold $2.5 BILLION in product last year. If they can't make this profitable without stealing my money then good riddance.
........................................

Now go get me a beer, bitch.

 

[FOUR20 SWG]

Now go get me a beer, bitch.

How many times do you say that to your mom everyday?

Seriously dude, it's time to move out of the basement and get a job.

Just not at Hostess. Cus the Execs killed the plant.

 

[fdd2blk]

You really think a couple christmas presents is going to makeup for losing a career? Smh. Petty. They wouldn't need anyones "help" if management lived up to it's end of the bargain. Would you rather that executives get bonuses and raises while your taxes go up having to support whatever percentage of that 18,000 people invariably go on to need federal assistance? When we allow companies to conduct themselves in a predatory manner, society as a whole pays for it. Even you. The winery welding whine-caller. Today, Hostess employees. Tomorrow, who knows? Maybe some people you live by. Some of your friends, family. Maybe your wife. Then we'll see I guess.

i think any act of kindness would be appreciated. figures you'd come up with an excuse not to help though. you'd rather just bitch about the "executives". carry on.

 

[FOUR20 SWG]

i think any act of kindness would be appreciated. figures you'd come up with an excuse not to help though. you'd rather just bitch about the "executives". carry on.

Figures you'd weasel out of responding to that in a legit fashion.

Nice move, Trump.

I'll give you the Colbert offer, bud.

I'll buy everyone of those families a Christmas present if you let me put my nuts in your mouth.

That's all. Nuts in your mouth, Christmas presents for the kids of the workers'. Everybody's happy.

 

[kelly4]

How many times do you say that to your mom everyday?

Seriously dude, it's time to move out of the basement and get a job.

Just not at Hostess. Cus the Execs killed the plant.

Get a job? LOL!!

I'm retired.....


LOL!

By the way, Cheesy is not my mom.

 

[fdd2blk]

Figures you'd weasel out of responding to that in a legit fashion. Nice move, Trump. I'll give you the Colbert offer, bud. I'll buy everyone of those families a Christmas present if you let me put my nuts in your mouth. That's all. Nuts in your mouth, Christmas presents for the kids of the workers'. Everybody's happy.

i asked you if you were willing to help and you called me "petty". i think it pretty much ends there. get on with your bad self. i've already stated that it is a fucked up situation. i just don't see how complaining about it really helps. if you are really concerned you would do something to actually help. such as sending out some nice gifts. the fact is all you have to offer is your complaints. pretty much been my point from the beginning. for some reason you can't seem to understand that i agree with you. i just want to know what you plan on doing about it.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

always a scholar and a gentlemen FDD

 

[MuyLocoNC]

Figures you'd weasel out of responding to that in a legit fashion.Nice move, Trump.I'll give you the Colbert offer, bud.I'll buy everyone of those families a Christmas present if you let me put my nuts in your mouth.That's all. Nuts in your mouth, Christmas presents for the kids of the workers'. Everybody's happy.

I wouldn't accept that deal. I truly hope their children are heartbroken this Christmas. Yup, I said it. I hope those idiots lose their homes two days before Christmas and stand outside the executive's homes with their children, steaming up the windows with their breath as they watch them open their extravagant gifts. That's all I want for Christmas...Ho, Ho, Ho.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

what kind of person says he will help many only if he can disrespect and molest one person . . . .thats some fucked up shit .

 

[FOUR20 SWG]

what kind of person says he will help many only if he can disrespect and molest one person . . . .thats some fucked up shit .

Uh....Stephen Colbert?

Hence the Trump reference...

It was designed to show him what an asinine statement he was making when he suggested I personally go out and buy 18,000 gifts.

 

[FOUR20 SWG]

Get a job? LOL!!

I'm retired.....


LOL!

By the way, Cheesy is not my mom.

Dude, you're retired and you live in your mother's basement?

That is quite possibly the saddest thing i've ever heard.

 

[fdd2blk]

Uh....Stephen Colbert? Hence the Trump reference... It was designed to show him what an asinine statement he was making when he suggested I personally go out and buy 18,000 gifts.

i never said all 18,000. how about just 1? can you at least do that? i bet you come up with some lame answer as to why you won't.

 

[kelly4]

Dude, you're retired and you live in your mother's basement?

That is quite possibly the saddest thing i've ever heard.

No, we share an apartment.

 

[FOUR20 SWG]

I wouldn't accept that deal. I truly hope their children are heartbroken this Christmas. Yup, I said it. I hope those idiots lose their homes two days before Christmas and stand outside the executive's homes with their children, steaming up the windows with their breath as they watch them open their extravagant gifts. That's all I want for Christmas...Ho, Ho, Ho.

always a scholar and a gentlemen FDD

Yup. I'm the REAL scumbag here.

Duh

 

[kelly4]

Yup. I'm the REAL scumbag here.

Duh

I'll drink to that.

 

[fdd2blk]

Yup. I'm the REAL scumbag here. Duh

you want to put your nuts in some DUDES mouth. it's pretty obvious what you are.

 

[FOUR20 SWG]

i never said all 18,000. how about just 1? can you at least do that? i bet you come up with some lame answer as to why you won't.

I donate to Toys For Tots every year, so I have no problem donating 1 more.

Any links to where I might be able to help out? Or was that just a shallow attempt on your part at trying to make me appear heartless?

 

[FOUR20 SWG]

you want to put your nuts in some DUDES mouth. it's pretty obvious what you are.

A homosexual? No, I like woman. Nice try though.

But even if I was, would that be something you think I should be embarassed of?

I'm just trying to get you to help out man.

From all your earlier posts, it kinda seemed like you were someone who would appreciate a set of nuts in his mouth.

Stephen Colbert put it best and I just paraphrased, but you and the Donald seem to have some things legitimately in common.