A rational, reasonable price for pot?

[cannabineer]

I thought you must have meant the reverse. Monopolies are impossible in a free market, except perhaps in a few unique circumstances. I am not sure what you are implying about my ideology. No need for implications and guess work though, I am against monopolies and completely in favor of free markets. I am a capitalist, minus the crony part.

I see the reverse happening. What market was freer than cocaine? A major cartel formed and dominated in every sense of the word. It became limitingly unfree without a perturbing influence. In the USA the cartels (trusts) had to be undone by an extramercantile force: the government. ~ What I mean by ideology is that you believe a truly free market a) exists, and b) is a good thing. I worry that that is utopian. Humans are empire builders, and economic empires are right up there with governmental ones. Jmo. cn

 

[UncleBuck]

Actually, competition results in higher quality at a cheaper price for the consumer. It is a win-win system, and is the fundamental basis of the free market system.

go check out fried chicken TV dinners and you tell me the quality is improving while the price drops.

 

[UncleBuck]

Bear, not sure I understand your point with "occlude". Competition indeed blocks out monopoly formation, but I don't think that is what you meant, is it?

actually, anti-trust laws block out monopolies. history and all. brush up on it.

 

[UncleBuck]

I don't see anything at all unrealistic about my assumptions.

that's because you're a DEA square.

 

[ChesusRice]

Even with an indoor setup, it takes a lot more work to trim a pound than grow it. I can see farmers in Iowa growing hundreds of tons at once, but until a few (hundred) million goes into processing research, your going to have a ton of money go into trimming.

Even if you paid $8/hr and only spent 8 hours on a pound, the end cost is going to be upwards of $200 a pound. Maybe if you just chopped off the buds and ground the dried stuff up like tobacco you could sell it for $20/pound. Hell, that might be the future of weed - I know people who'd smoke "ground bud / leaf product" if you could get it for $4/pack.

If you are talking true free market

Monsanto, Dupont and land o lakes will produce a strain that is both easy to trim and potent

 

[desert dude]

What would it cost me to grow my own pot garden if I lived in Colorado:

1. Assume a 15 x 15 grow area in my back yard.
2. I would need an 8' security fence around my grow area. I figure that will cost about $10 per foot of fence, so say $600.
3. I would need some seeds, or some starter plants. I figure that would cost me $100.
4. Water during the growing season, probably about one gallon per plant per day, so say 10 gallons per day for 90 days, about $100
5. Soil amendments for the plot... about $100
6. Nutrients for the little darlings... about $100

total outlay is about $1000, but only $400 of that is recurring, to grow six plants. Each would probably yield about one pound of dried buds, hence six pounds for $1,000 the first year and six pounds for $400 each year thereafter. By my calculations, six pounds for $400 works out to about $65 per pound. I guarantee that my cousin in Kentucky would grow it a LOT cheaper than I am able.

Why would I pay any of you $3,000 per pound for a plant that I can grow for $65 per pound?

To be realistic, I would probably fuck up the first year's grow and not get a pound per plant because I am an amateur, but I can assure you that I would quickly come up to speed as I am very fast learner.

 

[desert dude]

that's because you're a DEA square.

You don't really believe I am DEA, so why not just drop that BS. Square, yeah I suppose I would own up to that in most areas.

 

[UncleBuck]

What would it cost me to grow my own pot garden if I lived in Colorado:

1. Assume a 15 x 15 grow area in my back yard.
2. I would need an 8' security fence around my grow area. I figure that will cost about $10 per foot of fence, so say $600.
3. I would need some seeds, or some starter plants. I figure that would cost me $100.
4. Water during the growing season, probably about one gallon per plant per day, so say 10 gallons per day for 90 days, about $100
5. Soil amendments for the plot... about $100
6. Nutrients for the little darlings... about $100

total outlay is about $1000, but only $400 of that is recurring, to grow six plants. Each would probably yield about one pound of dried buds, hence six pounds for $1,000 the first year and six pounds for $400 each year thereafter. By my calculations, six pounds for $400 works out to about $65 per pound. I guarantee that my cousin in Kentucky would grow it a LOT cheaper than I am able.

Why would I pay any of you $3,000 per pound for a plant that I can grow for $65 per pound?

To be realistic, I would probably fuck up the first year's grow and not get a pound per plant because I am an amateur, but I can assure you that I would quickly come up to speed as I am very fast learner.

you'll run out of nutes before august. also light on soil amendments. got a tiller?

you'll want to enclose that space, too. get a greenhouse. space is a bit small for 6 plants, you need more fence.

what about security? you'll harvest 0.00 pounds without security on those things.

you are out of your element.

 

[UncleBuck]

also, forgot about staking those plants up, pest control, supplies for trimming, etc.

 

[UncleBuck]

damn, almost forgot the cost of rent and property taxes, too. backyards aren't free.

 

[UncleBuck]

you'll also need a climate controlled area for drying and curing. more supplies too.

 

[cannabineer]

Scenario: six of eight plants turn out male. Recalculate? cn

 

[UncleBuck]

scenario: cold, wet air mass moves in on a late september evening and lingers for days. a stagnant air advisory is issued. mold takes out half your crop. recalculate?

 

[desert dude]

Feminized plants.

Already own a house with a back yard, marginal cost is zero.

my garage for drying.

stakes for the plants, add $30.

 

[cannabineer]

scenario: cold, wet air mass moves in on a late september evening and lingers for days. a stagnant air advisory is issued. mold takes out half your crop. recalculate?

Don't tax my syn so hardcore, cruster ... cn

 

[desert dude]

With all of your scenarios, the production cost for a pack of cigarettes is pretty stable at $0.10, I think it will be similar for cannabis.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

What would it cost me to grow my own pot garden if I lived in Colorado:

1. Assume a 15 x 15 grow area in my back yard.
2. I would need an 8' security fence around my grow area. I figure that will cost about $10 per foot of fence, so say $600.
3. I would need some seeds, or some starter plants. I figure that would cost me $100.
4. Water during the growing season, probably about one gallon per plant per day, so say 10 gallons per day for 90 days, about $100
5. Soil amendments for the plot... about $100
6. Nutrients for the little darlings... about $100

total outlay is about $1000, but only $400 of that is recurring, to grow six plants. Each would probably yield about one pound of dried buds, hence six pounds for $1,000 the first year and six pounds for $400 each year thereafter. By my calculations, six pounds for $400 works out to about $65 per pound. I guarantee that my cousin in Kentucky would grow it a LOT cheaper than I am able.

Why would I pay any of you $3,000 per pound for a plant that I can grow for $65 per pound?

To be realistic, I would probably fuck up the first year's grow and not get a pound per plant because I am an amateur, but I can assure you that I would quickly come up to speed as I am very fast learner.

all wrong . . . . for starters . . .nutrients for 15x 15 upwards of 100+ a month, soil 300-400 a month . .and the list goes on


i am a small batcher for patients and myself

i have yet to meet a soil/inert medium grower who growers cheaper(Dollars per gram) then I

including the basic labor(10/hr) i grow for between 1.36-1.70 a gram, now a cash croppper could do this for 33 cents a dollar easy

 

[UncleBuck]

Feminized plants.

Already own a house with a back yard, marginal cost is zero.

my garage for drying.

stakes for the plants, add $30.

a colorado garage in october?

hope you like...

 

[UncleBuck]

With all of your scenarios, the production cost for a pack of cigarettes is pretty stable at $0.10, I think it will be similar for cannabis.

tobacco and cannabis are not the same thing.

 

[desert dude]

Scenario: six of eight plants turn out male. Recalculate? cn

In Colorado it is six plants max with only three flowering at any given time.