ledgrowing
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ak47 , sensi star, haiwain snow
Expert smokers, help please
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hazey grapes
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AK-47, aka the "one hit wonder"
racerboy71
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i've been smoking for over 20 years and have never run into any strani that i'd call a one hit wonder.. not a one...
canna_420
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mmmm Im as medicated as you and recently found pyramids tut to be a quick hitter. Not one hit but 1/2 joint.
I have high tolerance to cannabis but this one does hit.
But again as with all of them it depends on how tired or hyped up you are
Question to hazey..
Of all them listed how many did you fully finish?
C99 is prob one of the best, you put just OK.
Other just ok vars you put amazing after smoking some "budtrim" (STL)
Michelangelo00
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All great strains to look into. Anyone else want to throw their opinion in?
Me either and I wouldnt want one personally. I like the taste too much. I am going to hit it more than once no matter what.
Omgwtfbbq Indicaman
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I would go with these seeds at Seaofseeds.com or Attitude seedbank
Chernobyl- TGA Subcool seeds 60/40 hybrid, fast sativa dom hybrid, clean scent usually of lime/lemon smell. potent, allround great stash.
Armageddon- Homegrown Fantaseeds 50/50 hybrid- fast flower at around 50-60 days. good yield, lime smell.
Cheesequake or Dairyqueen- TGA Subcool Seeds- Cheese hybrids with incredible smells and vigor, alot of variation, almost all of it dank.
Devil- Mr. Nice seeds- indica- hashy fruity smelling strain, good node spacing and good bud production for a mostly afghan strain.
Killerskunk- Underground Originals- hybrid strain with skunky fruity smell, like blueberry skunk. chill happy buzz coupled with body high, not a sleeper though.
Chernobyl- TGA Subcool seeds 60/40 hybrid, fast sativa dom hybrid, clean scent usually of lime/lemon smell. potent, allround great stash.
Armageddon- Homegrown Fantaseeds 50/50 hybrid- fast flower at around 50-60 days. good yield, lime smell.
Cheesequake or Dairyqueen- TGA Subcool Seeds- Cheese hybrids with incredible smells and vigor, alot of variation, almost all of it dank.
Devil- Mr. Nice seeds- indica- hashy fruity smelling strain, good node spacing and good bud production for a mostly afghan strain.
Killerskunk- Underground Originals- hybrid strain with skunky fruity smell, like blueberry skunk. chill happy buzz coupled with body high, not a sleeper though.
Jogro
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Bingo. Is this really so hard?
Again, empirically, plenty of people grow sativa dominant plants in less vertical space, its just a question of knowing what to do.
Plus if you know you're growing something tall and stretchy, there are other things you can do to limit height too, including run 12-12 from ceed, or start rooted clones right into flowering.
Do either of those, and its perfectly possible to keep sativa-heavy plant height under 5 feet in many cases, even without topping/bending them.
Well, "ideal" is sort of a relative concept here.
In practice, most people aren't trying to grow "trees" under 1000W setups at home, and most people don't have the luxury of creating any sort of indoor garden they like.
Typically, you start with your hard setup limitations (budget/height/light/cooling, etc) and work backwards from there to figure out what's "ideal" FOR YOU.
But really, all I'm saying is that if you have 7 feet of vertical space to work with, as long as you know what you're doing you should be able to grow any plant you like.
Obviously some will be easier or more suitable than others.
Well, the OP said he had already grown bag ceed, that's why I mentioned it.
I just like to point out that the genetics of the Mexican commercial stuff can be surprisingly good; its just that the bricked brown buds in the bag don't represent the real potential of those plants. Grow properly, seedlessly, harvest at their peak, cure right, and store right, and you're liable to end up with something totally different than the brown chunks people rightfully turn up their noses at. We're talking significantly better appearance, scent, flavor, AND potency to the point where you literally won't recognize the two things as the same plant.
In my opinion, the biggest problem with bag ceed in GENERAL (not just Mexican brick) is that they're often "bastards". Even if you know the quality of the bud in the bag they came from, you don't know what the father plant was. Is it some hermie-prone sativa totally different than the mother? Did the plant self-pollenize? Hell. .. was the plant fertilized by some wild hemp pollen in the air? The quality of bag ceed can be identical to, worse. . .or (if you're lukcy) better than the buds they came out of. There is going to be SOME relationship between what you grow and the quality of the stuff in the bag the ceeds came from, but until you actually try the buds, you don't really know.
In terms of plant STRUCTURE, I don't think that's as much of a big deal. Even with commercial strains, until you're experienced with them, or at least have seen them growing, you don't really know what the structure will be like or what the true flowering time will be.
In many cases, "name" commercial strains/lines can throw off some fairly different phenos out of the same pack of ceeds, so even having grown one, you may not "know" exactly what the next one will look like. (This, by the way, another potentially good reason to grow established/inbred "old school" lines.).
Once you're an experienced grower and have the kinks worked out of your setup, you'll know how to deal with any plant structure. It just comes down to keeping a close eye on things, using your judgement, and pruning/training appropriately.
Jogro
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Maybe that's because you've been smoking so long, you have a relatively high tolerance. Or maybe you just like to get REALLY f'd up!
This is what I said on this topic in the "one hitter" strain thread. Its also a great thread to look at for strain suggestions, by the way. My personal "nominee" was Williams "One hit" Wonder, though that's somewhat of an "old school" choice:
Expanding on this a bit, there is just a practical limit to how potent ANY buds can be, and how much THC you can get into any puff of smoke from those buds. Even the very strongest of the super-strong strains that people call "one hit" may contain up to about 25% THC. In practice that means that THE absolute best of the best "one hit" stuff can only really give you about twice as much cannabinoids in a puff as in mid-grade stuff.This is true, though pretty obviously some weed is stronger than others. There are also plenty of experienced smokers who still smoke infrequently, and maintain a low tolerance.https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/551301-list-any-one-hitter-quiter-4.html#post7826004
Originally Posted by spandy
One hitter = no tolerance
Nothing wrong with not having a tolerance, but guys it is what it is. There is no such thing as "super weed". Just saying, tolerance can play as much or more of roll as the quality of the bud.
Also, not every hit is created equal.
You can take a small puff on a joint, or you can take a gigantic lung-busting toke. Even a bong hit, can range from a relatively small puff to a gigantic room-filling cloud, too.
So those things said, yeah, I don't think there really is a "one hit" strain where just one puff of flowers from an ordinary joint will couchlock an experienced smoker.
The term "one hit" is just a figure of speech. You're talking about weed where one big bong hit, or a few puffs from a cigarette are enough for the average CASUAL smoker, that's all.
If you really want to get instantly baked in one hit, then you'll want to do dabs of vaporized hash oil, rather than smoking flowers.
Also, I think some of this "one hit" stuff is just strain dependent. In my experience, its the super-indicas that just really wreck you, giving you that instant eyelid droop, confusion/couchlock that just makes you stop doing whatever the hell it was that you were before you started smoking.
Michelangelo00
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My setup is very stable and my tomatoes look and taste great, however I know I can do better with better genetics. Some of my spawn turn into little retards, and i would like to try a sog. That's impossible when one grows 4 feet and another bushes like hell. And diagnosing a nutrient deficiency for a Plant when all others are perfectly grn is a pain in my ass.
hotrodharley
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Mazar i Sharifi - rated higher on Leafly than anything you look up at 8.9 and I concur. Regular seed from Ace Seedds and they are cheaper by far from Sea of Seedds than Attitude. Don't know about any other seedbanks. Can be hard to find. I love it. A lot! Make sure it is the genuine Mazar and not a cross. Pure indica.
Michelangelo00
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I believe tolerance is your comfort level. My gf likes a very heavy stone, and I enjoy something more energetic/social. That's why I want both a great sativa and strong indica.
hazey grapes
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joey weed's version finished in 45-50 days.
before breeders started getting hold of OG clones, that stuff was selling for crazy amounts with, according to cannabible, friendships created and lost over it. i've never been interested myself and gave away all of the OG crosses, including 4 out of 5 of the TH seeds strains given during attitude's awesome 10th anniversary giveaway that i snoozed on and missed out on a lot of stuff ordering late on sunday. if a strain gets used as universally as OG kush, there's got to be a reason. i've been told it's not stony, but i just can't wrap my head around that name. at least one breeder virtually specializes in OG crosses. if you want to learn more about it, or any other strain, stop by the smoke report threads. i'm sure there's dozens of OG reports along with a little of everything else.
well if you want energetic, then maybe you'd like C99 more than me. i go for the trippier stuff myself, though that can get a little hairy socially. i remekmber once smoking just mexican brick at a buddy's house, his gab gab gabbing girlfriend was really annoying me talking about shopping and her friends and all kinds of other crap i had no interest in. when you get into psychoactivity, just as fun stuff gets funner, bummers get amplified too. i'm not exactly a social butterfly though as i naturally have a short patience fuse with people.
if you REALLY want energetic and can wait 17 weeks, NOTHING is as racy as kali mist! it's like C99 on speed! i literally couldn't sit still on it as planned. i wanted to trip out on tunes and ended up cleaning house and my fish tanks humming happily.
haze x skunk isn't so much "energetic" as it is motivational. C99 & kali mist are racy, but you can chill out on haze x skunk if you chose, OR do whatever you want. i especially liked that it's really potent, but doesn't turn stoney no matter how much or how long you blaze. it's like an AK-47 for sativas.
here's a tip for getting less stone out of ANYTHING, vaporize! a few years back, i was getting some typical schwag from a dude that was stonier than skunk #1, but that was a lot more functional bagged from his volcano as well as better tasting like taking a dry hit directly off a bud. i really want to get a "purple days" (or knockoff) vaporizer as it's supposed to be one of the most efficient ones that will make your bud stretch a lot further. first i got to get some bud though.
How would you know it finished if 45-50 days? You have never grown a plant in flower that long...
beuffer420
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Strains like wine come in many numbers. I say do you. Subcool caliconnections DNA ect all good breeders with a huge array of genetics to suit your needs. I guess do some research on the strains named in previous conversations and go from there. What someone else likes you may not.
teoborg
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Try to blend strains in ur joint/bowl. I have pretty high tolerance and when I want to go really high I blend strains. Finally u will have a total different high, much more intense and interesting. U can mix indicas and sativas together but also sat & sat or indi & indi together. Try it..
From my experience mixing two strains its enough, adding more wont make it any better.
lahadaextranjera
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Critical is a good compromise of a 50/50 knockout . It can be quite heavy tho.
Michelangelo00
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Honestly I don't care if you can't keep a cactus alive. If you have bought great stuff and you can give a good description, please do so. Let's not bog the thread with nay saying. Thank you all for your opinions. That's what I'm looking for.
bluntmassa1
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the best weed I've had so far was jack herer. but you can grow good weed from any decent breeder even nirvana their not the best but you can do pretty good. I would just try anything that intrests you thats some what popular and you should do just fine.
Jogro
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Well to be clear here, almost by definition, sea of green growing is done using CLONES from the same mother plant. That's the best and easiest way to ensure that all the "plantlets" are the same size and height and grow to form an even canopy (which is the whole point of SOG).
Also, while its "possible" to run a sea of green with any strain, in practice, it works better with strains that tend to stay compact and aren't very branchy.
So no, you're not going to get it done if you're trying to grow one stretchy 12 week sativa and one bushy 9 week indica in the same space trying to get them to match exactly in height the whole time! You can still grow them side by side if you like just not in a "sea of green".
IMO, true "sea of green" is really ideal for commercial growers. If you're only going to be running 2-4 plants at a time, there is no real point to "sea of green".
A more practical home equivalent for you would be "SCROG", in an attempt to improve yields in a particular space.