Thc ( bad ) –cbd (good ) ?

[NEEDMMASAP]

THC ( BAD ) –CBD (GOOD ) ?


Okay if GW Pharma has spent all these big bucks to market Sativex and they have seen fit to make it a 50/50 mix of THC/CBD what is the justification of using that mix ? And if they are on the right track how can a caregiver process the same mix . Finding a MM strain that has that mix would be nice , but I doubt if GW Pharma is doing that , so there must be a way to separate the THC and also separate the CBD then mix them into a 50/50 mix . Are there any caregivers out there that know how to do that ? Anyone growing a plant that produces a 50/50 mix ?

What are the probabilities that Big Pharma is behind this push to make MM legal ( and then behind that make it illegal for everyone but them to grow MM )


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabiximols Nabiximols (USAN[SUP][1][/SUP], trade name Sativex)

http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=50 Article about THC/CBD

 

[Amateur.Grower]

When it's obvious that cannabis legalization is imminent, you better believe big pharma is going to be at the forefront of the move to make sure "it's produced safely".

 

[Cory and trevor]

Go to Ironlabsllc.com and search for my Acid 9 test results. A perfect 50/50 mix at 10% each.

 

[NEEDMMASAP]

Go to Ironlabsllc.com and search for my Acid 9 test results. A perfect 50/50 mix at 10% each.

Thanks for the info , am I understanding this correctly . If you processed it like RSO you would end up with a cap that would be about 10.17/10.00 ? There was one strain Cannatonic#4 that was 0.21/13.87 and another called Bubba76 that was 13.21/0.14 , now if those two plants were processed together would you end up with 13.42/14.01 ? could you then add a proper amount of Hemp seed oil to again end up with a cap that would be apx 10.00/10.00 ?

 

[bowlfullofbliss]

CBD Crew gear is 1:1 ratio for the most part.

 

[Cory and trevor]

That sounds right in theroy but I believe that heat will cause conversions and posibly jack up the ratios during the process as heat is a component of RSO production. Maybe I'm off, don't know; not much experience with RSO.

 

[Huel Perkins]

Thanks for the info , am I understanding this correctly . If you processed it like RSO you would end up with a cap that would be about 10.17/10.00 ? There was one strain Cannatonic#4 that was 0.21/13.87 and another called Bubba76 that was 13.21/0.14 , now if those two plants were processed together would you end up with 13.42/14.01 ? could you then add a proper amount of Hemp seed oil to again end up with a cap that would be apx 10.00/10.00 ?

Yes, your math is correct but the whole idea behind the perfect 1:1 THC to CBD ration is flawed. The fact of the matter is that every patient has different needs and preferences and everyone responds differently to the effects of cannabis, in other words there is to perfect cannabinoid profile that is the best for everyone. CBD plays a role in how THC effects you and also the duration of those effects. I've personally been doing a lot of self experimenting over the last few months with high CBD meds using a strain that is roughly 10:1 CBD to THC ratio and mixing it with some of my other THC rich meds to see how different ratios effect me. A 1:1 ratio really kicks my ass (very stoned couch lock) and provides a long lasting effect. Something I've found is that CBD seems to make the THC effects last longer. CBD also seems to really take the edge off of the THC effects as well providing a more calm effect with less anxiety. I also really like the effects of the 10:1 strain by itself, it gives me a really relaxed tranquil effect but have very little mind altering effects at all.

I suggest you do some experimenting and find out what works best for you.

 

[Huel Perkins]

That sounds right in theroy but I believe that heat will cause conversions and posibly jack up the ratios during the process as heat is a component of RSO production. Maybe I'm off, don't know; not much experience with RSO.

Heat AKA decarboxylation doesn't really change the ratios per say, it activates certain cannabinoids so their effects can be felt. For example, in raw plant material there is only THCA which will not get you high but when heated the acid molecule attached to the THC separates leaving just THC. This is why we can't get stoned from consuming raw buds, they must be burned, cooked or vaped to get the effects we're after.

 

[NEEDMMASAP]

That sounds right in theroy but I believe that heat will cause conversions and posibly jack up the ratios during the process as heat is a component of RSO production. Maybe I'm off, don't know; not much experience with RSO.

Checked your grow journal ( nice ) I kind of think that with a temp controlled vacuum system it could be processed with no change , sure will be glad when I can get up there and play with this stuff .

bowlfullofbliss-- sound like a person could find the right strains to make a near perfect oil .

 

[abe supercro]

were all over that cannatonic #4. 10:1 cbd:thc. / If I donate it to someone, they must donate it to three ppl.
gonna pop a few 'Nordle' and 'Yummy' seeds from cbd crew.

 

[NEEDMMASAP]

were all over that cannatonic #4. 10:1 cbd:thc. / If I donate it to someone, they must donate it to three ppl.
gonna pop a few 'Nordle' and 'Yummy' seeds from cbd crew.

that's cool abe ,I'll be begging for some when I get up there and set up . That a good way to spread the good .

 

[gladstoned]

There is a new cannatonic strain. Dieseltonic. I have 2 going right now. From CBD crew I have 1 Shark Shock, Super Skunk, Nodle, Yummy, and Critical Mass going. They will all be tested.

I do not want several high CBD strains. 2 or 3 though possibly.
I spent a lot of money on all those beans and none of them are expected to be as good as Cory's Acid.
The CBD crew says they average 5-6% at 1:1. Cory's is 10%. He is a lab rat, and I think he is going to be Iron Man in grow room as well as outside of it.

Huel and Abe have Cannatonic #4, I've had a few samples and like it.

I will cross my favorite CBD strain with a Master Kush.
For anxiety, chocolate does trick for me also.

 

[gladstoned]

were all over that cannatonic #4. 10:1 cbd:thc. / If I donate it to someone, they must donate it to three ppl.
gonna pop a few 'Nordle' and 'Yummy' seeds from cbd crew.

(psst Huel. this is the guy with the #4. lol)

 

[Huel Perkins]

Lol Abe and I have already been talking.

 

[NEEDMMASAP]

Yes, your math is correct but the whole idea behind the perfect 1:1 THC to CBD ration is flawed. The fact of the matter is that every patient has different needs and preferences and everyone responds differently to the effects of cannabis, in other words there is to perfect cannabinoid profile that is the best for everyone. CBD plays a role in how THC effects you and also the duration of those effects. I've personally been doing a lot of self experimenting over the last few months with high CBD meds using a strain that is roughly 10:1 CBD to THC ratio and mixing it with some of my other THC rich meds to see how different ratios effect me. A 1:1 ratio really kicks my ass (very stoned couch lock) and provides a long lasting effect. Something I've found is that CBD seems to make the THC effects last longer. CBD also seems to really take the edge off of the THC effects as well providing a more calm effect with less anxiety. I also really like the effects of the 10:1 strain by itself, it gives me a really relaxed tranquil effect but have very little mind altering effects at all.

I suggest you do some experimenting and find out what works best for you.

I’m amazed at how good you guys are on this site , one thing I have learned for sure is that I’ve got a lot to learn . Thanks for the information . Whoever the CBD group is , they seem to be doing a good job .

 

[NEEDMMASAP]

There is a new cannatonic strain. Dieseltonic. I have 2 going right now. From CBD crew I have 1 Shark Shock, Super Skunk, Nodle, Yummy, and Critical Mass going. They will all be tested.

I do not want several high CBD strains. 2 or 3 though possibly.
I spent a lot of money on all those beans and none of them are expected to be as good as Cory's Acid.
The CBD crew says they average 5-6% at 1:1. Cory's is 10%. He is a lab rat, and I think he is going to be Iron Man in grow room as well as outside of it.

Huel and Abe have Cannatonic #4, I've had a few samples and like it.

I will cross my favorite CBD strain with a Master Kush.
For anxiety, chocolate does trick for me also.

I hope your tests are good , if Cory took cuttings from his 10.00/10.00 plant would the cutting then produce the same 10.00/10.00 ? How this ends up will be interesting .

 

[gladstoned]

Yes. Cory's cutting will continue with same THC/CBD levels of 10%
obviously I will still grow them and test them, but I don't expect any of the cbd crew beans to test that high in either category.

 

[Huel Perkins]

I believe that every cannabinoid in the plant has an impact on what type of effects it will have on the human body.

At this point I'm now looking for rich in CBC or CBG, I'd love to do some experimenting to see how they alter the effects.

 

[Cory and trevor]

Huel; I was reading about the THC and CBD and thought I read that CBD can be derived by the decarb of THC after the THCA conversion. someone from the weedmaps educationl series on cannabanoids was saying it was the reason for not using the GC for profiling because the heat used could cause a small conversion of the THCA to THC and even then further from THC to CBD. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought that THCG was a basic precursor for most of the noids and what they became was dependant on the process (either enzyme or heat) deciding which way it folded on itself and what noid it became. I need to watch more vids and read more on it chem wasn't my area I have a very selftaught small understanding of chem and organic chem process.

 

[Huel Perkins]

You have CBD and CBN mixed up. CBN is the byproduct of THC degadation.