++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems

[hellraizer30]

HR,

I believe I finally had a float switch go out. Lights are out but I'll check it in the morning. Where would I get one of those to replace it if it is bad? Assuming it is the float switch hopefully I can just replace it. I would buy a new system, sentinel/Flo n gro before I spent $300 on a new C.A.P controller.

Thanks

Look into aqua hub

get the complete kit with a new c box and floats its way better than the cap shit
heres a link
http://www.aquahub.com/store/product68.html

 

[hellraizer30]

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yup wow!! you know what i mean?? wow! why?

I feel your pain man but theres so many factors for me to just put my finger on it!
I do know this its a nute burn......! You can thank AN for that... I lost my last run to
it and will never use it again

that being said your new run is a bit def. im not to exp with those supernatural nutes.

i can give you a bit of advice that will solve your issues, (stop useing everything you are
using and get with a more simple feeding program. A safe and easy to use! No guess work
Just follow the resipe for sucess. Heres a link
http://www.technaflora.com/Products
this is a win all in hydro! Might be a bit less agressive and yield a bit less but who cares.
its cheap and theres not much to it.
heres a link to the feeding chart
http://www.technaflora.com/downloads/USA2009.pdf

 

[legallyflying]

The aqua hub kits are very high quality and reasonably priced. I own three of them.

 

[Sencha]

Wait, what? Hydroton is no longer being made? So my supply is increasing in value???? ;D I have at least 100 gallons of ton. Much of it is mixed with sunleaves grow rocks. Since I don't veg long I rarely have the kind of root balls that are hard to shake clean.

This is not true. The Hydroton that we know, will not be available. There are two new clay mines owned by Atami; makers of B'cuzz nutes, mining this shit as we speak. I have some of the new hydroton already. It's just a little different color.

 

[hellraizer30]

This is not true. The Hydroton that we know, will not be available. There are two new clay mines owned by Atami; makers of B'cuzz nutes, mining this shit as we speak. I have some of the new hydroton already. It's just a little different color.

Yah its called hydro corn

 

[dbkick]

Roks!!!!! errr sorry, that's not roks!
Roks!

 

[dbkick]

I have a general noob question about ebb and grow monster size of course. why can't I run one line for fill and drain? my res is over 20 feet from the controller and I'd like to run two different systems with the two lines I have in place already without adding two more.

 

[hellraizer30]

I have a general noob question about ebb and grow monster size of course. why can't I run one line for fill and drain? my res is over 20 feet from the controller and I'd like to run two different systems with the two lines I have in place already without adding two more.

If your res was lower than your buckets. Then it would work just make sure you have a anti syphon hole in place!
and use gravity to drain back. 20ft might be a trick to set it up lol

 

[hornedfrog2000]

I have a general noob question about ebb and grow monster size of course. why can't I run one line for fill and drain? my res is over 20 feet from the controller and I'd like to run two different systems with the two lines I have in place already without adding two more.

U probably can. It will just take a longer time to fill.

 

[Warlock1369]

Db was it you I covered this with? 1 line is fine but you will need 2 pumps. Time will take longer. And a bigger risk of damaging pumps if something gets in the now closed line. I'm 20' away but wouldn't use 1 hose. Unless I replaced it every grow.

 

[legallyflying]

1/4" of slope for foot is the standard slope needed for proper drainage. Sooo.. the top of your res when fulll needs to be 5" lower than your table. 20'??! where is your res, in your neighbors garage? LOL

 

[CaliMackdaddy]

With rockwool and as few plants as possible whats my best option? I was thinking about doing 4 plants under a 600W and vegging for 2-4 weeks in the 8x8x8 Blocks, With a special bucket system drip to drain and recirculate. Hows this sound, is the 8x8x8 blocks overkill? Might i add that im gonna run this in a 3x3 tent.

 

[dbkick]

Db was it you I covered this with? 1 line is fine but you will need 2 pumps. Time will take longer. And a bigger risk of damaging pumps if something gets in the now closed line. I'm 20' away but wouldn't use 1 hose. Unless I replaced it every grow.

I'm 20 feet away and thru 2 walls so its kind of a pain in the ass to replace tubing, I just run a really high h2o2 thru it in between runs. I think you and I did talk about this but I could only remember you mentioning an obstruction causing problems. And yes HR I had already considered the "special" anti-syphon fitting on both ends. I think I'm gonna just go another route and run one system on the two lines as it's meant to be.Thanks for the input boys!

 

[legallyflying]

With rockwool and as few plants as possible whats my best option? I was thinking about doing 4 plants under a 600W and vegging for 2-4 weeks in the 8x8x8 Blocks, With a special bucket system drip to drain and recirculate. Hows this sound, is the 8x8x8 blocks overkill? Might i add that im gonna run this in a 3x3 tent.

3x3 tent. Your best option is one plant or a bigger tent

 

[CaliMackdaddy]

3x3 tent. Your best option is one plant or a bigger tent

Ive done several runs in coco and soil with 4 plants without any problems, could i do the same with large rw cubes?

 

[legallyflying]

I don't see why not. For that small I would just use smaller RW cubes (like maybe 2") and a bunch of hydroton in a big tray. You can make a flood table for next to nothing.

 

[BloodshotGrin]

I have clips in rapid rooter plugs. What is a good way to pre veg before going in to my Ebb & Gro? This will be my 4th grow but 1st in the E&G

 

[Warlock1369]

Rapid rooters don't realy break down like other plugs. I would just place them in RW cubes and fill the space if there is any with extra RW. And your off.

 

[dbkick]

I have clips in rapid rooter plugs. What is a good way to pre veg before going in to my Ebb & Gro? This will be my 4th grow but 1st in the E&G

this is my first run in ebb and grow also. what I did was root in rapid rooter, transfer to 4 inch rw cube with the hole in it(rapid rooter drops right in) . then I put that in a 5 inch netpot in dwc, I thought I'd have time before the roots broke the rockwool cube but some shit came up and my roots ended up a foot and a half long or so, I just buried those carefully in the dyna grow roks in the inner buckets and it went without a problem, I got a little wilt but nothing major.

 

[dbkick]

although I'm thinking of doing a couple small flood tables starting with 6 inch rockwool cubes and then stacking on 12 inch cubes then into buckets.unless someone tells me different in this nice thread.