Any lightworkers?

Zaehet Strife

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Simply stated, we all have to deal with death in our own ways. As I've said before, death awareness is the price we pay for self awareness.

Some of use deal with death by pretending that we are still going to exist when we die... so really, what this means is, that most people in the world deal with the certainty of death by pretending that our bodies will die, but a part of us will still live on.

I would tell you that i do not fear death, which is why i don't partake in such fantasies... yet, you would also respond the same way, that you do not fear death, but there is one difference... you partake in the fantasy, where as i do not. Which is ok! Don't get me wrong. I understand the fact that i do not know, just as i hope you understand that fact as well, that we cannot be certain if we do, or do not have a soul.

"The goal of life is happiness,

Our unhappiness is caused by fear (and in association, pain),

Our main fear is of death,

If we can overcome fear of death, we can be happy." -Epicurus

The only way some human animals can achieve this, is by pretending that there is no death...

The more humans figure out about the brain, the chemical reactions and neuron transmissions, the more we find out that the brain (which is matter) is what fosters consciousness, and when our brain is damaged, so the consciousness is damaged as well. When the brain dies, so does consciousness... as far as we feeble human animals can tell.

Like i say, i am certain of nothing (this could all just be a dream derived from a god for all i fuckin know)... but as Carl Sagan once most inspiringly said,

"Extraordinary claims, requires extraordinary evidence"

Where there is empirical and tangible evidence to back up my claims, there is NONE to back up yours besides hearsay. -------


How are we to differentiate between what we know, and what we don't know? What is reality, and what isn't? We can only base these things on what empirical and tangible evidence we can provide for ourselves with our senses.

Indeed, reality could just be a dream, or a computer simulation, among billions of other ideas... but the fact of the matter is that there are things that exist within this reality that can be tested, studied, and measured. The things that exist within this so called reality that can be tested, studied and measured... as well as proven to be true beyond a reasonable doubt by everyone, not just one person, those are the things that can be depicted as evidence as well as proof of existing in this reality.

That which cannot be tested, studied, and measured... we can not provide any tangible evidence to base these claims in this reality. Therefor they will always be found in the realm of imagination, rather than reality. UNLESS of course, science find's out a way to test and measure whatever claim you make that has no evidence... once it can be measured, we will have evidence of it's existence in this reality.
 

ganja man23

Well-Known Member
Simply stated, we all have to deal with death in our own ways. As I've said before, death awareness is the price we pay for self awareness.

Some of use deal with death by pretending that we are still going to exist when we die... so really, what this means is, that most people in the world deal with the certainty of death by pretending that our bodies will die, but a part of us will still live on.

I would tell you that i do not fear death, which is why i don't partake in such fantasies... yet, you would also respond the same way, that you do not fear death, but there is one difference... you partake in the fantasy, where as i do not. Which is ok! Don't get me wrong. I understand the fact that i do not know, just as i hope you understand that fact as well, that we cannot be certain if we do, or do not have a soul.

"The goal of life is happiness,

Our unhappiness is caused by fear (and in association, pain),

Our main fear is of death,

If we can overcome fear of death, we can be happy." -Epicurus

The only way some human animals can achieve this, is by pretending that there is no death...

The more humans figure out about the brain, the chemical reactions and neuron transmissions, the more we find out that the brain (which is matter) is what fosters consciousness, and when our brain is damaged, so the consciousness is damaged as well. When the brain dies, so does consciousness... as far as we feeble human animals can tell.

Like i say, i am certain of nothing (this could all just be a dream derived from a god for all i fuckin know)... but as Carl Sagan once most inspiringly said,

"Extraordinary claims, requires extraordinary evidence"

Where there is empirical and tangible evidence to back up my claims, there is NONE to back up yours besides hearsay. -------


How are we to differentiate between what we know, and what we don't know? What is reality, and what isn't? We can only base these things on what empirical and tangible evidence we can provide for ourselves with our senses.

Indeed, reality could just be a dream, or a computer simulation, among billions of other ideas... but the fact of the matter is that there are things that exist within this reality that can be tested, studied, and measured. The things that exist within this so called reality that can be tested, studied and measured... as well as proven to be true beyond a reasonable doubt by everyone, not just one person, those are the things that can be depicted as evidence as well as proof of existing in this reality.

That which cannot be tested, studied, and measured... we can not provide any tangible evidence to base these claims in this reality. Therefor they will always be found in the realm of imagination, rather than reality. UNLESS of course, science find's out a way to test and measure whatever claim you make that has no evidence... once it can be measured, we will have evidence of it's existence in this reality.
Look man I'm not trying to be a dick but I don't want to read all that. I made this thread for a different reason not to debate wether or not there's life after death. The way I see things we are like two blind men debating over what colors look like. That's not what I want from this post, I just want to know if any light workers were here and to be honest I don't really need this debate. Goodbye and best of luck my friend.
 

greenswag

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I have never heard the term of light worker, but judging by what you've said I'm one too, it's nice to meet you. Like neer I love being able to touch things with my hands and build and see the changes and other things in an engineering sense, but beyond that I most prefer and am most interested, in the intangible things in life. My entire life all I have thought about, and will continue to think about, are abstract things and ideas including peoples energies. I just recently started to practice seeing auras around people with very little success, but there still is success in that. I pick up on how people feel almost too much it seems, I hate being happy and then picking up someones negative energy and it immediately brings me down. OR even though this may sound weird maybe you can understand, have you ever felt upset, something major happens like someone close to you dying, and just for a little bit, you WANT to feel upset. You want to get it through your system and nourish that feeling so you can better put it behind you, but someone comes along all happy and you start picking up that energy and your like "NO I want to feel sad for a couple hours to a day, god dammit let me feel sad!" I could probably talk a LOT about this stuff and many other things about spiritual intangible ideas lol

really shitty run on sentences with too many commas in here sorry
 

ganja man23

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I have never heard the term of light worker, but judging by what you've said I'm one too, it's nice to meet you. Like neer I love being able to touch things with my hands and build and see the changes and other things in an engineering sense, but beyond that I most prefer and am most interested, in the intangible things in life. My entire life all I have thought about, and will continue to think about, are abstract things and ideas including peoples energies. I just recently started to practice seeing auras around people with very little success, but there still is success in that. I pick up on how people feel almost too much it seems, I hate being happy and then picking up someones negative energy and it immediately brings me down. OR even though this may sound weird maybe you can understand, have you ever felt upset, something major happens like someone close to you dying, and just for a little bit, you WANT to feel upset. You want to get it through your system and nourish that feeling so you can better put it behind you, but someone comes along all happy and you start picking up that energy and your like "NO I want to feel sad for a couple hours to a day, god dammit let me feel sad!" I could probably talk a LOT about this stuff and many other things about spiritual intangible ideas lol

really shitty run on sentences with too many commas in here sorry
Youre not alone at all. The main thing I imagine we can all relate to is that we want to see this world live up to its full potential. I see a beautiful planet with amazing scenery and wonderful people as well. The term "lightworker" is just a word. Much like the word god. I use both terms for lack of better ones but I think the ideas are the same.
 

Zaehet Strife

Well-Known Member
Look man I'm not trying to be a dick but I don't want to read all that. I made this thread for a different reason not to debate wether or not there's life after death. The way I see things we are like two blind men debating over what colors look like. That's not what I want from this post, I just want to know if any light workers were here and to be honest I don't really need this debate. Goodbye and best of luck my friend.
I thought you wanted to think... but apparently i am wrong. No worries, maybe someone else will read it and get something from it.
 

Mister Sister

Active Member
Youre not alone at all. The main thing I imagine we can all relate to is that we want to see this world live up to its full potential. I see a beautiful planet with amazing scenery and wonderful people as well. The term "lightworker" is just a word. Much like the word god. I use both terms for lack of better ones but I think the ideas are the same.
I couldn't agree more.

For me, dealing with the shift has been extremely challenging, but somehow uplifting. It's hard to describe.

Yoga, Reiki, Tai Chi, meditation, and creative visualization have been my saving graces. These are the things that have truly changed my life for the better. They allow for the removal of stress from the body, from parts that you don't normally 'use' or would even consider areas of 'stress'.

Right now I am concentrating on 'fixing' myself, undoing my own personal blockages - which I would highly urge any person to do at this point in time, it is critical. We are the generation of people called to anchor and seed light in this world. We are the eagles of the new dawn. Much like the flower children of the 60s, we are in a consequent planetary cycle right now where our ideas are able to flourish and manifest much easier than in any other time in history. In my opinion, the people of the 60s lost their way in the exact thing that many of them found it in - expanded consciousness. Drugs opened a doorway to a higher realm, however these people got lost in the skies and forgot about the ground on which their bodies resided.

We are the next wave of souls in the same set of planetary alignments. The archetypes we associate ourselves with are given precedence by the heavens. Like I said before, we are building a foundation for the future - a bridge for others to cross when ready. There is nothing 'better' about us, only different. All people and all viewpoints are equal in cosmic terms, even people like Hitler are no better or no worse. All beings serve their purpose.

At any rate, keep the good vibes going my brother. I am very happy to come in contact with you. It is very difficult, sometimes extremely depressing, when I put thoughts out to the public and it is met with alarming ears. However, it is my path and every day I am finding out what my truth is and how best to put it to use. What a beautiful learning process for us all. It has been an extremely humbling and beautiful life, albeit very challenging in many ways. Let us bring peace to the earth day by day, moment by moment.

Blessings to all,

MS
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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I thought you wanted to think... but apparently i am wrong. No worries, maybe someone else will read it and get something from it.
Not really much at all to think about. Its not hard to understand what side of the argument you are on. You knock on wood, therefore you are almost certain there is wood there, you take the world for face value because thats all you can experience with your senses (Minus the mystical lucid dreaming :wink:). Why should we be enthused about your ideas if you cant take ours seriously? You have nothing to prove man, and so far your arguments have swayed an impressionable southern kid to your side, is it really worth it?
 

Mister Sister

Active Member
Zaehet -

I completely hear what you are saying and admire the fact that you put your ideas out there for others to see.

The only thing I would like to say about your posts is this - you can be certain of your infinity. You can know your soul. You can communicate with your higher self. It is a challenging road but the efforts are well worth it brother. Every effort made will always be rewarded. Please consider the idea that you can know things that to most people are 'unknowable'.

PM me if you would like assistance in this matter. I know what you are and what you are capable of. You are immaculate, perfect, beautiful shining light in the sky. Believe it or not your potential is limitless.
 

ganja man23

Well-Known Member
I thought you wanted to think... but apparently i am wrong. No worries, maybe someone else will read it and get something from it.
one last statement/ question i will make. why are you in the spirituality section? you have made it clear that you believe nothing beyond this life (therefore you are NOT spiritual), so why bother taking that right of thought away from others? i'm going to go ahead and guess that you must seek validation by disproving others. you are not alone but i don't care for this attitude.

this section is for those of us who wish to share our ideas with others. your presence here has only been to take away from our ideas by claiming we have no proof (while your only proof is a claim that there is a lack of proof). with all due respect i don't think this is an appropriate forum for the corresponding attitude you have shown as it can be quite irritating to some.
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

Well-Known Member
Zaehet -

I completely hear what you are saying and admire the fact that you put your ideas out there for others to see.

The only thing I would like to say about your posts is this - you can be certain of your infinity. You can know your soul. You can communicate with your higher self. It is a challenging road but the efforts are well worth it brother. Every effort made will always be rewarded. Please consider the idea that you can know things that to most people are 'unknowable'.

PM me if you would like assistance in this matter. I know what you are and what you are capable of. You are immaculate, perfect, beautiful shining light in the sky. Believe it or not your potential is limitless.
You have a wonderful way with words, Mister Sister. I enjoy reading what you have to say, I wish to achieve the balance that you have but I've been procrastinating on a bunch of self searching practices. You sound just like the people I sometimes talk to on another site. I think your attempts to reason with Zaehet are useless though... He often experiences the magic of lucid dreaming yet he is still almost certain it is only neurons and chemicals causing it. He also told me that even if "god" were to be proven scientifically, he still wouldnt believe it because this all could be a computer simulation or a dream. (the dream part is right lol)
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

Well-Known Member
one last statement/ question i will make. why are you in the spirituality section? you have made it clear that you believe nothing beyond this life (therefore you are NOT spiritual), so why bother taking that right of thought away from others? i'm going to go ahead and guess that you must seek validation by disproving others. you are not alone but i don't care for this attitude.

this section is for those of us who wish to share our ideas with others. your presence here has only been to take away from our ideas by claiming we have no proof (while your only proof is a claim that there is a lack of proof). with all due respect i don't think this is an appropriate forum for the corresponding attitude you have shown as it can be quite irritating to some.
I predict a bunch of negative responses from the skeptics. They say that they are staying true to philosophy, which is also apart of this sub forum, and philosophy encourages questioning of ideas, like we are trying to convince the atheists of something instead of sharing our similar views with like minded people. Im pretty sure they know that we are not trying to recruit people, so you would have to think that their intentions dont benefit anyone but themselves and those that pat them on the back.
 

ganja man23

Well-Known Member
I couldn't agree more.

For me, dealing with the shift has been extremely challenging, but somehow uplifting. It's hard to describe.

Yoga, Reiki, Tai Chi, meditation, and creative visualization have been my saving graces. These are the things that have truly changed my life for the better. They allow for the removal of stress from the body, from parts that you don't normally 'use' or would even consider areas of 'stress'.

Right now I am concentrating on 'fixing' myself, undoing my own personal blockages - which I would highly urge any person to do at this point in time, it is critical. We are the generation of people called to anchor and seed light in this world. We are the eagles of the new dawn. Much like the flower children of the 60s, we are in a consequent planetary cycle right now where our ideas are able to flourish and manifest much easier than in any other time in history. In my opinion, the people of the 60s lost their way in the exact thing that many of them found it in - expanded consciousness. Drugs opened a doorway to a higher realm, however these people got lost in the skies and forgot about the ground on which their bodies resided.

We are the next wave of souls in the same set of planetary alignments. The archetypes we associate ourselves with are given precedence by the heavens. Like I said before, we are building a foundation for the future - a bridge for others to cross when ready. There is nothing 'better' about us, only different. All people and all viewpoints are equal in cosmic terms, even people like Hitler are no better or no worse. All beings serve their purpose.

At any rate, keep the good vibes going my brother. I am very happy to come in contact with you. It is very difficult, sometimes extremely depressing, when I put thoughts out to the public and it is met with alarming ears. However, it is my path and every day I am finding out what my truth is and how best to put it to use. What a beautiful learning process for us all. It has been an extremely humbling and beautiful life, albeit very challenging in many ways. Let us bring peace to the earth day by day, moment by moment.

Blessings to all,

MS
that was very heart warming to read and i have learned from it myself. i am still working on clearing my own blockages and find myself struggling at times at well. this is rather embarrassing but i found myself crying the other day (the scary part is that i had no idea why i was crying), but i ended up wondering why i would ever choose such an experience. while this life is beautiful in itself, i do often wish i was home (ironically i can't even remember what home is) but the thought of going where i belong is the warmest feeling i have felt in my life.

i believe up until the quarantine is over (the 21st of December), we will continue to face the negative energy that has emerged from our lives. once we face and deal with this i truly believe we can move on. and i agree with you completely on the subject of good and evil. we are all as observers and the reality is that i cannot think of any difference between what we consider good and evil, they are all crucial lessons to be learned. some of us have chosen a path of drug abuse, jail time and other negative environments in hopes of finding our true selves.

i have noticed that when i meditate i haven't had the progress i have hoped for. perhaps i should do this more but it seems like someone is always here to bother me. it's also significantly more progressive when i am medicated. i'm quite excited that you and greenswag have replied to me. even today i was feeling like i've been facing nothing but negative energy from these guys and it's a bit frustrating since that wasn't my intention.
 

Mister Sister

Active Member
:)

Thank you Chief for your kind words. Is it coincidence that eagle is in your name? Please reconsider searching inside of yourself. Inside of yourself is the map of the entire cosmos.

I fully believe that Zaehet can do anything he sets his mind to accomplishing, as can we all.

Please consider letting him into your heart.

Very grateful to meet you all,

MS
 

Mister Sister

Active Member
i have noticed that when i meditate i haven't had the progress i have hoped for. perhaps i should do this more but it seems like someone is always here to bother me. it's also significantly more progressive when i am medicated. i'm quite excited that you and greenswag have replied to me. even today i was feeling like i've been facing nothing but negative energy from these guys and it's a bit frustrating since that wasn't my intention.
Believe me, I feel your frustrations. I am happy to find common ground with others of a like mind. Let us not forget to be persistent, without judgement on ourselves. We will fall off of the bandwagon but it is our innate drive to succeed that will ultimately trump our 'failures' and lead us to the life we were born to live. This is how I quit smoking cigarettes. Even when I was smoking I would tell myself that it is okay because I am soon not going to be doing it at all. This can be a tricky slope for a person who secretly wants to continue, however diligence and integrity will win every time.

We are the same person living in different bodies. Again, I am so happy to have found these parts of myself. This is truly a great time to be alive and I want to extend my hand to all beings willing to extend theirs back.
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

Well-Known Member
:)

Thank you Chief for your kind words. Is it coincidence that eagle is in your name? Please reconsider searching inside of yourself. Inside of yourself is the map of the entire cosmos.

I fully believe that Zaehet can do anything he sets his mind to accomplishing, as can we all.

Please consider letting him into your heart.

Very grateful to meet you all,

MS
I admire your reluctance to show anything that even hints at negativity, seems effortless lol. I agree that Z could accomplish "knowing" if he put his mind to it, but the belief he is currently passionate about is all about not knowing and atheism and he seems dead set in his ways... I know the benefits of meditation and what not, Im just really lazy though. I tried meditation a couple of times sober but I was too scatter brained and got discouraged. I tried it once while high on marijuana and it was an amazing experience. I instantly felt the relaxation and after a minute it started to seem like a psychedelic trip and my amazement took me out of the silence and I was frustrated again lol I will be sure to practice meditation this weekend... Just not with weed, my recent heart condition prevents me from smoking weed, scary things happen to my heart when Im high.
 

ganja man23

Well-Known Member
I predict a bunch of negative responses from the skeptics. They say that they are staying true to philosophy, which is also apart of this sub forum, and philosophy encourages questioning of ideas, like we are trying to convince the atheists of something instead of sharing our similar views with like minded people. Im pretty sure they know that we are not trying to recruit people, so you would have to think that their intentions dont benefit anyone but themselves and those that pat them on the back.
they can think what they want but frankly im done with this debate, not why i came here. light spreads upon the darkness and brightens it up, not the other way around.
 

eye exaggerate

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...yep, the point of life is happiness. What does it take to have true happiness? A seed, some water, some light, 5 months...hehe :)

...lightworker is a term that I 'distrust' simply because it's a pseudo-mainstream thought on 'no thought'. Energy worker? Well, which energy? I'll take 'worker of lead' as potentially true because it is where our consciousness is most of the time. In a fixed state. To really be 'free', a person should be free to study metaphysics as well as physics and not identify with either.

Is it really a 'free' person that denies knowledge?...seems like denial in a way. To be free we have to know what we are trying to be free of - usually ignorance.
 

tyler.durden

Well-Known Member
one last statement/ question i will make. why are you in the spirituality section? you have made it clear that you believe nothing beyond this life (therefore you are NOT spiritual), so why bother taking that right of thought away from others? i'm going to go ahead and guess that you must seek validation by disproving others. you are not alone but i don't care for this attitude.

this section is for those of us who wish to share our ideas with others. your presence here has only been to take away from our ideas by claiming we have no proof (while your only proof is a claim that there is a lack of proof). with all due respect i don't think this is an appropriate forum for the corresponding attitude you have shown as it can be quite irritating to some.
Spirituality has a broader definition than the one you give, and does not necessarily need to include magic, mysticism and the afterlife - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality -

an inner path enabling a person to discover the essence of his/her being; or the "deepest values and meanings by which people live."

Spiritual experiences can include being connected to a larger reality, yielding a more comprehensive self; joining with other individuals or the human community; with nature or the cosmos

Sam Harris if very interested in spirituality and studies it exhaustively. He is also a leading skeptic and staunch atheist. Also, this section is for Sexuality and Philosophy, as well...
 

ganja man23

Well-Known Member
:)

Thank you Chief for your kind words. Is it coincidence that eagle is in your name? Please reconsider searching inside of yourself. Inside of yourself is the map of the entire cosmos.

I fully believe that Zaehet can do anything he sets his mind to accomplishing, as can we all.

Please consider letting him into your heart.

Very grateful to meet you all,

MS
i wish i could have such an amazing attitude dealing with these things. the truth is i know what i must do and i even do it certain days. after much bickering i finally give up and it's sad that my mood is so reflective of my actions. since we are here what is your opinion on cannabis and our ascension? many have told me that it affects the memory, which is the key to figuring out who we were in past lives (in order to remember the lessons learned from them). i like getting high and to be honest i find myself in a much more unconditionally loving state. seeing as how there's no physical side effects from cannabinoids, i choose to continue with using it.
 
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