++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems

akpaco

Active Member
HR,

My friend just switched his grow over to bud. Can you still take clones of of them? It'll only of been approx. 24 hours. Someone said you have about a week?

Thanks!!
 

Warlock1369

Well-Known Member
You are fine to take clones right now. Later in flower revegging is needed. But can still be done at any stage of flower.
 

akpaco

Active Member
Hey paco what strains you running these days?
Mostly AK47 but just did a few super lemon haze that came out real good. I prefer the ak47 because it's shorter and works better for my area.


HR, When you run your grodan cubes/chunks in your buckets do you use any hydroton at all? I see some people use a layer on the bottom and it seems like a lot of people put a layer on top? Can you just use a coco mat cut out for the top? What do you recommend?

Thnaks!
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Mostly AK47 but just did a few super lemon haze that came out real good. I prefer the ak47 because it's shorter and works better for my area.


HR, When you run your grodan cubes/chunks in your buckets do you use any hydroton at all? I see some people use a layer on the bottom and it seems like a lot of people put a layer on top? Can you just use a coco mat cut out for the top? What do you recommend?

Thnaks!

I keep it simple and just use growdan zero layering. I see a few folks using tron to layer but sorting out the tron
after is a bitch! If you plan on re-using it. Now the hydrotron is no longer being made, you would have to use
hydro corn a similiar product.
 

akpaco

Active Member
I keep it simple and just use growdan zero layering. I see a few folks using tron to layer but sorting out the tron
after is a bitch! If you plan on re-using it. Now the hydrotron is no longer being made, you would have to use
hydro corn a similiar product.
So just to clarify? You don't use anything but the grodan in your buckets? What about the light hitting the grodan on top of the buckets? Algae? How do you treat the grodan before you put it in your buckets? PH 5.5 or do you use any other method/

Thanks!!
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
So just to clarify? You don't use anything but the grodan in your buckets? What about the light hitting the grodan on top of the buckets? Algae? How do you treat the grodan before you put it in your buckets? PH 5.5 or do you use any other method/

Thanks!!
I fill a rubbermaid bin up with water ph 5.5 and dump a bunch of growdan in! Let soak for 6hr
then use. The only thing i use is a peace of white poly to cover the top of the growdan to eliminate
algae.

i have been puting alot of thought into covering the growdan with sand to stop fungas gnats
and then cover that with white poly to stop algae, seems sound
 

Warlock1369

Well-Known Member
If your going to use sand you might have a problem of it leaching down and getting into your system. And over time could do damage to the pump drives. If you do go that way I would advise a layer of coco mat befor sand. This might help keeping it out but that's just a guess. Then the poly over.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
If your going to use sand you might have a problem of it leaching down and getting into your system. And over time could do damage to the pump drives. If you do go that way I would advise a layer of coco mat befor sand. This might help keeping it out but that's just a guess. Then the poly over.

That was the big if for me warlock, my only want was to just eliminate fungas gnats! Seems they still can work through
coco to :( and once in growdan there....! There to stay..!
 

Warlock1369

Well-Known Member
If there was a set way that had no bugs or problems what so ever but yielded 1/2 of what I do now. My guess is I would switch on the spot. But sence there isn't and won't be all we can do is try different things.
 

akpaco

Active Member
I fill a rubbermaid bin up with water ph 5.5 and dump a bunch of growdan in! Let soak for 6hr
then use. The only thing i use is a peace of white poly to cover the top of the growdan to eliminate
algae.

i have been puting alot of thought into covering the growdan with sand to stop fungas gnats
and then cover that with white poly to stop algae, seems sound
What do you think about using something like Fox Farms big and chunky perlite just on the top?
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
What do you think about using something like Fox Farms big and chunky perlite just on the top?
Fungas gnats can still colinate in that.. Only thing i know for sure is sand.

if your just trying to stop algae then the perlite should work
 

akpaco

Active Member
I would like to totally eliminate any clay from my grow. I also constantly battle gnats! The one thing that always works for me is GoGnats. It's just cedar tree oil. It's harmless it just smells strong. it would be nice not to use it but I just don't know how you can get rid of them completely. I think that damscus? earth would be better then sand but like warlock said it would probably be a nightmare if it got down in your system.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
I would like to totally eliminate any clay from my grow. I also constantly battle gnats! The one thing that always works for me is GoGnats. It's just cedar tree oil. It's harmless it just smells strong. it would be nice not to use it but I just don't know how you can get rid of them completely. I think that damscus? earth would be better then sand but like warlock said it would probably be a nightmare if it got down in your system.
i feel yah on the clay...! Il look into that D earth stuff
 
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