CA/Bay Area Vendors Union: What to grow, where to sell and how to sell

Hal Incandenza

Hal Incandenza

Active Member
*If you guys want, I can expand this to California as a whole, rather than just Bay Area.

I created this thread for the purpose of educating new vendors (like myself) on the ins and outs of marijuana vending (providing to dispensaries). Included will be a monthly report on the in-demand strains (Regular, Top-Shelf and Medicinal) and any recent developments in the vendor/dispensary world here in the Bay Area. In addition to these reports, users can contribute to an ongoing guide on the business and etiquette of vending to dispensaries, including quantities, general pricing, presentation, quality assurance and just generally not getting ripped off by greedy dispensaries. Obviously I don't expect names, exact numbers or any specifics that would put vendors at risk or compromise their income, but simple tips on how to deal with dispensaries, or mistakes to avoid would be of great help to all of us vending in the Bay Area!

Cheers,
Hal

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October 2012

Medicinal Strains (Strains with a higher CBD content designed for the sole purpose of treating severe medical conditions.)

1. Harlequin (Hal Incandenza: High CBD, low THC. Very popular for pain relief without intoxication)
2. Cannatonic (Dan Kone: This is the only strain I've seen test out over 10% CBD that prouduces top shelf buds. Phenos very in thc/cbd ratio a lot, but all will have that top shelf look.)
3. Tahoe OG

Top Shelf Strains ("Name Brand" strains of medical marijuana that fetch a high price.)

1. Durban Poison (Hal Incandenza: All four of the dispensaries I talked to mentioned this as being a very popular choice among their customers)
2. Girl Scout Cookies (Hal Incandenza: This one is being sold at just about every popular dispensary in San Francisco)
3. Blackberry Kush (Hal Incandenza: High bag appeal and potency when grown well, and is a staple top-shelf strain at many Bay Area dispensaries right now)
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Regular Strains (All other strains, usually sold for about $40/g in dispensaries)

1. Blue Dream (Hal Incandenza: This one is always in demand, though this may make it harder to sell as just about everyone grows it too! High quality Blue Dream variations fetch a high price)
2. AK-47 (Hal: Easy to grow indoors and out, good yields. The "one hit wonder" seen on many menus, in just about every part of CA)
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Reputable Cannabis Testing Facilities/Devices:

1. http://quantacann.com (Oakland)
2. http://steephilllab.com/ (Oakland) (Dan Kone: the industry standard. the most accurate tests available)
3. http://www.sclabs.com/ (Dan Kone: best lab for vendors to send their products to because they typically give more favorable results than steep hill.) <---Though I'm sure dispensaries are aware of this. No?
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List of disreputable dispensaries in the Bay Area and elsewhere in California:

Bay Area Dispensaries to Avoid
1. Herbal Cruz
- 1001 41st ave, Santa Cruz (reported by Dan Kone)
2. Greenway
- 140 Dubois Street, Santa Cruz, CA 95060 (reported by Dan Kone, keepitcoastal)
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Other Dispensaries to Avoid
1. Absolute Herbal Pain Solutions
2201 s. San Pedro st Unit b, Los Angeles , CA 90011 (reported by Jpill)
2. "Karma" Collective
Garden Grove, CA (reported by phistank)
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Dan Kone

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
Awesome thread dude! Bravo. +rep

High CBD strains:
1) Cannatonic - This is the only strain I've seen test out over 10% CBD that prouduces top shelf buds. Phenos very in thc/cbd ratio a lot, but all will have that top shelf look.
2) Sour Tsunami - more similar to harlequin
3) Omrita Rx - I know it's high cbd, don't know much else. Never seen the buds in person

In demand top shelf strains:
God's Gift
pineapple kush
ogre
blackberry kush
grape ape
xj-13
blackwater
bogglegum
skywalker
cotton candy

and as always, any strain that gets purple from the calyxes will sell very quickly

formerly popular strains that are falling out of favor:

Anything diesel - small market for sour D, but don't expect top dollar. purple diesel still does ok if it has proper color. dry market for any other diesel

GDP - not selling like it used to. clubs will still take it, but it must be perfect and have color to it, even then don't expect top dollar

green crack - funny strain here. When clubs sell it as "green crack" it actually sells very quickly. But when they sell it as dream queen or green cush, it doesn't sell at all. Most clubs won't sell it as green crack though...

space queen - no one really wants this right now

bubba kush - kind of surprising that a strain with this type of bag appeal and flavor won't sell, but it won't. Many clubs such as harborside refuse to even look at it.

reputable labs -

steep hill - the industry standard. the most accurate tests available
SCLabs - best lab for vendors to send their products to because they typically give more favorable results than steep hill.
 
Hal Incandenza

Hal Incandenza

Active Member
Thanks for the contribution Dan Kone!

I'd like to find more medicinal strains, because I think there is a potentially huge market for them, given the right context, i.e. as medical marijuana becomes more widely accepted, there will be more demand for a natural medicine without the "high". Seeds for high-CBD strains seem to be hard to come by as well, I'll update if I find a good source. This site is worth checking out for anyone interested: http://projectcbd.org/
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
Tahoe OG is NOT considered a high CBD strain. It does have some CBD in it, but never above 3% or so.
 
420marijuana

420marijuana

Member
[h=2]CA/Bay Area Vendors Union: What to grow, where to sell and how to sell????[/h]why dont you just tell everyone to come thru and you can tell them how to break the law. if i post some real information and advise to talk to an attorney, i will get banned from the forum for spamming, but people like you can teach people the wrong way of doing business and be cool.

ok, look up the definition of the word vendor. next read the California Attorney General Guidelines, then read California law about selling marijuana. As you can see your thread is teaching people how to break the law. This fucked up trend of passing on wrong information has to stop!!! too many people getting hurt and too many families are being destroyed.

ven·dor/&#712;vend&#601;r/
Noun:

  1. A person or company offering something for sale, esp. a trader in the street: "an Italian ice cream vendor".
  2. A person or company whose principal product lines are office supplies and equipment.

Marijuana clubs are not supposed to deal with salesmen, based on the California Attorney General Guidelines, they are supposed to produce their own medicine. Even if the vendor signs up as a member of the club, if he/she continues to call themselves vendors, that is what they are. And selling marijuana is illegal under state law, regardless if you have a marijuana card from a doctor.

if you wanna teach anyone how to sell marijuana as a vendor, you are teaching them to break the law. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. take some seminars with reputable attorneys if you want to know how to supply or produce medicine for marijuana collectives.

 
Soupsah

Soupsah

Active Member
You make a good point about using the word "vendor", but I disagree with your interpretation of the attorney generals guide lines are for collectives to grow their own only.

I interpret this as, become a member of said collective and you can get compensated for your time, cost, etc for your donation to other collective members only.

"Collectives" are not defined in statutory law. According to the Attorney General's guidelines :
"A collective should be an organization that merely facilitates the collaborative efforts of patient and caregiver members – including the allocation of costs and revenues. As such, a collective is not a statutory entity, but as a practical matter it might have to organize as some form of business to carry out its activities. The collective should not purchase marijuana from, or sell to, non-members; instead, it should only provide a means for facilitating or coordinating transactions between members."<






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bamboogardner

Active Member
Remove the word "Vendor" and replace with "Provider". Vending is in essence, selling. Providing could be a compasionate gift. Your traveling down the right path, just fine tune the beast. Good Job.

Bamboo Gardner
 
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bamboogardner

Active Member
Hey Hal. I would not be too concerned about the word "vendor" that you used. Harborside Oakland states on their web site that "New Vendors Warmly Welcomed", and they also have a "Vendor Handbook" on line that specifically states "Vending with Harborside Health Center". "Here are some requirements for vending with us".

Now if Harborside, which obviously has many knowledgeable attorneys, is not afraid to use the word "vendor", I am sure that your little post here trying to help other "vendors" with what you researched will not warrant a low flying DC-3 flying over your house with DEA and FBI agents, not to mention the US Marshals Service parachuting out to pull a raid on you for your post.

I personally liked your post and hope you and others keep the updates going. Just my 2¢ worth.

Bamboo Gardner
 
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ssean

Member
Cool just found this post. told me what strains are doing good and whats not. also no one has went into how to provide or be provided for. Indio has nothing good and hear budtrader is a no no. Any farmers markets where im not paying 2.5k+ for lbs?
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
bamboogardner said:
Remove the word "Vendor" and replace with "Provider". Vending is in essence, selling. Providing could be a compasionate gift. Your traveling down the right path, just fine tune the beast. Good Job.

Bamboo Gardner
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Vendors are what they are called throughout the industry. Provider implies direct sales to patients.
 
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