++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems

tree king

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base nutes A/B/C
big bud
b-52
sensi cal a/b
bud ignighter
overdrive
rynoskin
bud blood


bennys
voodoo
piarahna
hellraizer im curious have you did any tests and run a flower grow with b-52 and without b-52? my main concern with it is it raises the ppm too much and could maybe mess up the npk ratio. what are your thoughts on this and what differences have you noticed in adding it in flower?
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
hellraizer im curious have you did any tests and run a flower grow with b-52 and without b-52? my main concern with it is it raises the ppm too much and could maybe mess up the npk ratio. what are your thoughts on this and what differences have you noticed in adding it in flower?
I have run with and without it, and seen zero in performace but yes theres a ppm jump for sure!
just another thing i think you could live without
 

tree king

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I have run with and without it, and seen zero in performace but yes theres a ppm jump for sure!
just another thing i think you could live without
so why do you still use it? do you think nirvana would be a better substitute because its supposed to increase bud size plus has b vitamins in it? im guessing you might think its bad for a sterile res though. for me it would have to be good to run with dutch master zone
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
so why do you still use it? do you think nirvana would be a better substitute because its supposed to increase bud size plus has b vitamins in it? im guessing you might think its bad for a sterile res though. for me it would have to be good to run with dutch master zone
Well im not using any of it! Im running canna now and comparing from old exp of AN
if things dont go well with canna i will go back to AN but without the b-52
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
hr you know what im gonna ask lol im tryin to yank it outta you. why wouldnt you use it?
Lol its simple bro! Nirvana has organics in it, and will f- your res up good!
only organics that go in my ressys are brewed teas :)

other thing that are a no go
are F1, H2, wet betty, carboload, bud candy
 

dbkick

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poop in the res, no thanks! I'm back bitches! ebb monsters all the way around! so tell me, has anyone tried multiple strains at multiple stages in this type of system? sounds difficult to pull off but not really, I think I'll be giving it a go although maybe I'll just run two separate system in flower, that would be pretty easy to run something perpetual like.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
poop in the res, no thanks! I'm back bitches! ebb monsters all the way around! so tell me, has anyone tried multiple strains at multiple stages in this type of system? sounds difficult to pull off but not really, I think I'll be giving it a go although maybe I'll just run two separate system in flower, that would be pretty easy to run something perpetual like.

I have done x3 strains at once but they were even in feeding styles, as for stages! If you do it it will be a first in my book! :)
 

dbkick

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I'd have to move in the light feeders first and hope by the time the heavies come in the ppm will be up, of course I'll have to break rules and use shit in weeks its not really meant for if I do a lot of additives but I basically only use big bud. maybe I'll fuck this off and just do multiple strains at the same stages. that shouldn't be too hard even though I don't know the strains.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
I'd have to move in the light feeders first and hope by the time the heavies come in the ppm will be up, of course I'll have to break rules and use shit in weeks its not really meant for if I do a lot of additives but I basically only use big bud. maybe I'll fuck this off and just do multiple strains at the same stages. that shouldn't be too hard even though I don't know the strains.
I did a run once with 900ppm of grow/micro/bloom and big bud from start to finish never changing anything
and it turned out great lol and when it can time to flush i pulled out the inner bucket and placed it on the floor
with a tray under it and just hand watered it for 7days, worked great!
 

dbkick

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that was my plan too kinda, the flushing part, but I was gonna buy another ebb controller on the cheap and upgrade it to monster size for a total of 4 different controllers . this would leave one system free for flushing. but your idea sounds better too me, cheaper.
 

dbkick

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here's my shit now! not enough room and I'm gonna have to do something quick! the cooler is res for 5 buckets plus a 5 gallon controller, I think there may be 5 gallons left in the cooler after flood but when they get to this size I'll have to be keeping a eye daily on level I'm sure.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
here's my shit now! not enough room and I'm gonna have to do something quick! the cooler is res for 5 buckets plus a 5 gallon controller, I think there may be 5 gallons left in the cooler after flood but when they get to this size I'll have to be keeping a eye daily on level I'm sure.
When you planning on the flip?

looking nice! Those black stars nice and cool?
 

dbkick

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no blackstar in that photo, custom t5 and a blue/white/red(possibly equal ratio) 600 watt panel of some kind, the blackstars are gone monday, sold them to finance a more blue/white custom spectrum diy panel of some kind.I'm actually thinking of skipping the panel and just getting a nice blue 400 watt mh .hortilux of course.
 

dbkick

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they do run cool though, they're just too red for really nice veg and I refuse to use an led in flower.
 
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