My Ultimate Indoor Grow Room Setup

piecemasta

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If you guys were utilizing this setup, what would you be doing differently? In regards to feeding regiments, schedules, growth phases (sizes prior to flowering), amount of light/lumens, number of plants, equipment, etc..
Can you guys help me identify what deficiencies my leaves seem to be exhibiting?
Again I appreciate everyones input!
 
chipmunkproof

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wheels619 said:

  • I think MH only for the first couple of weeks might help reduce stretch but then again the switch to tell the plant to flower respoinds to red light which HPS is high in.​

    I am agreeing with you that HPS is better for

the bud doesnt honestly care what spectrum the light source is to go into flower. hps light spectrum speeds up flower growth. or was that what u were trying to say?
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I am agreeing with you that HPS is better for flowering than just MH, but I think a combination of both can be beneficial. But plants do use a phytochrome switch which is sensitive to red light and do care which spectrums you give them in flower. Blue light in flower can be very helpful. This is why people are using plasma induction lighting and cmh to get a broader spectrum of light. Certain HPS lights such as the Eye hortilux have enhanced blue light to give a broader spectrum to the plant.
As always I recommend that anyone in here ever take mine or another persons word as the ultimate truth. Research it yourself.
 
wheels619

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9 5 gallon dwcs or recirculating system per light and big ass hood. 30 day veg 60 day flower. 9 3 gallons vegging under a separate thousand watt light with a big ass hood. a 400 for moms and a smaller t5 for clones. i would set up a perpetual grow. once a month harvest one of the thousand watt lights. u could do the same in soil or coco but ive been admiring how fast shit grows in actual hydro lately. thinking about changing my whole setup actually to a dwc or undercurrent system instead of coco. even bought everything i need to make my own teas and shit. try to aim for a few pounds per light. i think it can be done. but who knows. going to try an 8 bucket in a 4x8 tent soon hopefully.
 
wheels619

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chipmunkproof said:

I am agreeing with you that HPS is better for flowering than just MH, but I think a combination of both can be beneficial. But plants do use a phytochrome switch which is sensitive to red light and do care which spectrums you give them in flower. Blue light in flower can be very helpful. This is why people are using plasma induction lighting and cmh to get a broader spectrum of light. Certain HPS lights such as the Eye hortilux have enhanced blue light to give a broader spectrum to the plant.
As always I recommend that anyone in here ever take mine or another persons word as the ultimate truth. Research it yourself.
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ok. the wording threw me off on ur last post. that makes more sense. and yes an mh during flower is beneficial. also hps during veg.
 
chipmunkproof

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piecemasta said:
If you guys were utilizing this setup, what would you be doing differently? In regards to feeding regiments, schedules, growth phases (sizes prior to flowering), amount of light/lumens, number of plants, equipment, etc..
Can you guys help me identify what deficiencies my leaves seem to be exhibiting?
Again I appreciate everyones input!
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It looks kind of like a calcium deficiency. When I had similar spots I sprayed them with a Epsom salt solution.
Is it on new growth or old growth?
 
piecemasta

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chipmunkproof said:
It looks kind of like a calcium deficiency. When I had similar spots I sprayed them with a Epsom salt solution.
Is it on new growth or old growth?
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Those pictures are of three different plants that i took sample leaves from. I google searched and found this thread which was rather useful http://www.420magazine.com/forums/problems-pests-disease-control/81275-cannabis-plant-pest-problem-solver-pictorial.html . I to think the leaf with the speckling indicates a calcium deficiency. At what ratio do you dilute your epsom salt into water and also how much do you spray/how often? It is mainly on older fan leaves. The picture of the leaf laying on the white table is also from the same plant as the one in the 13th picture (still attached to the plant) are both exhibiting a phosphorous deficiency at various phases. You may also notice that they have dark red stems on each leaf as well. What might this indicate? It might be a potassium deficiency. I think i will try foliar feeding with a mix of epsom salt and a minute amount of hydrated lime. I plan on flushing the soil thoroughly as soon as we can hook up the black drainage tubing that still has yet to arrive.
 
chipmunkproof

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They dont look like spider mites but have you checked under the leaves?

I actually useed the epsom salt for a magnesium deficiency. I got screwed up with this post and another site, I apologize. The best thing for a calcium deficiency is dolomite lime or cal mag product. Since messing with calcium can cause mag deficiencies, I tend to like to use a calmag product. I would maybe try adding a product like calimagic into your nute regime and see if it helps. I would use the directions on the bottle, for cali magic i believe it was 5ml but this was a couple years ago. From what Ive read and experienced calcium and magnesium issues happen together usually so a calmag might save you from issues later on.Wheels619 or other experts might have another opinion or strategy to fix a calmag issue but this is how i fixed mine. Xtreme Gardening also makes a foliar product called cal carb but I have no experience with it, but it is the only foliar calcium product. If you do choose the dolomite lime route the site you linked has the instructions on the ratios.

Dark red stems can be a phosphorus deficiency but some strains just stay dark from my experience. I grew out some pre98 bubba and all of them had dark purple stems with hints of red on them. I tried to fix it but i think it was just the genetics. One of your leaves does have the mottled look of brown on the sides like a phosphorus deficiency. I usually fix phosphorus deficiencies by adding some bloom nutes that are high in it.

Again with some of the deficiencies it might not change the growth that is already messed up it will just keep the new growth and buds from having issues.

What ppms are you feeding them?
 
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I've been meaning to be more thorough with keeping this thread updated. I just repotted the next generation into several 2 gallon pots vegging under a 400w mh. I need to LST/train them before their few main shoots get too tall. I should be harvesting in a week or two so I can use the cages after I put my main ladies to rest and begin drying/curing. I also have changed the layout of my lights and bucket setup which I will also include in the coming photos.
 
piecemasta

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I have had the same reoccurring deficiency for the past several grows during both veg and flower phases.
After reviewing several posts including the Guide to Nutrient Deficiency and Toxicity thread I believe it to be both a potassium and magnesium deficiency.
I was hoping to hear from some growers who have more experienced then it when it comes to this aspect.
I will measure runoff ph and ppm as soon as I get a chance.

Specs:
-indoor
-Strain: DJ Short's BlueBerry (first 4 pics) and a True OG (final 5th pic)
-pro-mix hp (premix 10gals of promix w/ 2 tblsp of dolomite lime and ironite from Home Depot)
-feed using RO water
-pictures are of 4 week old plants vegging
-soil drenched once every third or fourth day depending on each plants water uptake
-nutrients every other watering at half strength using Pure blend Pro grow, silica blast, & liquid karma, molasses
 
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UPDATE: I have recently made some significant changes with my setup that now incorporates aeroponics :D so keep your eyes open for the start of a new rant :P
 
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