HeartlandHank
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Sigma-Aldrich Lsd gets out to the public? Are you saying you have had it? Wow. I don't believe you, haha. Seriously though, in the friendliest way possible...you're full of shit.Sigma. Literally the standard by which all other LSD is judged.
The Pickard bust actually did very little affect on the supply and quality of LSD. He hadn't cooked in at least 2 years, even the DEA acknowledges that. Many producers were already in Canada and/or producing other chems with less penalties and easier to obtain precursors. In the late nineties you could literally order sassafras oil by the 55gal drum with no worries. Even in the early 2000s you could get it by the drum pretty safely. Things that had a much bigger impact on the supply of LSD: The death of Jerry Garcia and the retirement of many of the elder generation of Family. Then in 2000 Phish went on hiatus. What had more of an impact on the LSD market of the new millennium, the bust of a guy just getting his lab back up and running or the loss of the replacement for the means of distribution of massive quantities of LSD? The loss of a single chemist, even at the scale of Pickard isn't enough to damage the market that much. When Sand got busted in '96 the market barely felt it at all. And he was running kilogram scale production as well.
Do people really believe that Pickard was the only acid chemist in whole fucking world? No, he's just the only one the DEA ever busted and they made a huge deal out of it because there haven't been very many LSD lab busts and he had a shitload of precursors.
The DEA became when numerous drug agencies (of which had made lab busts, including Sands, Scully, and Owsley) combined under one agency to become more effective. And actually, it was a result of an arrest made by one of these agencies of Sands and Scully. So, calling it the DEAs first bust is a technicality.
I did not say chemists fled to Canada after the Pickard Bust. ?. Chemists have left the US for Canada to make different drugs. Nick Sands, who you speak of, was one of them.
You are kinda jumping from A to D on this one. Plus, the idea that lsd distribution is limited to some music sub-culture is arrogant as all fuck, to say the least. "The family" thing, probably some stories made up while waiting in line for a shitty grilled cheese sandwich. How was that sammich?
I was not necessarily saying that the lack of product from that specific lab greatly affected the quality of lsd in the US. However, The market is effected even if the arrest is all just for show. Distribution networks get cracked up, i would think. People get worried about how they are connected, i would think. People get nervous, i would think.
The ripple effect of the arrest I am sure had an effect reaching way further than the short term of some kids pocket at a Phish show. I do believe most of the LSD available has been made by a handful of chemists. Also, if we were talking about the affect on the market limited to the supply from a single chemist... that supply would probably last a bit of time. I would guess most chemists are operating for short amounts of time and taking long breaks. I would bet on it. Pickard lsd probably floated around for years after. I doubt that the bottleneck in lsd manufacturing and distribution is the lack of a jam band to distribute through. That's comical. There are a few more places to send lsd than to concerts. I mean really, Americas stash was in a van going from city to city following the Dead? If The Grateful Dead was carrying that kind of weight... Jerry stripped the "hardest working man in show biz" title from James Brown.
I don't think anyone thinks that Pickard was the only chemist in the world. I understand you did not mean it literally, but sort of a way to drive a point home or flex some knowledge of the situation.
Having been shut down for "2 years" means nothing. Jesus. If anyone on his scale was at it 24/7... we would have to filter our tap water of lsd before drinking it. A couple months in operation creates enough lsd to take a break. I really doubt anyone is sitting in a lab operating until a short 1 week break for christmas. It would be a little different than pumping out 4 harvests in one year. I had thought it was something like 6 weeks was a productive go.?
Your idea that he was "just setting back up" (even though HE was not) is irrelevant to what he was producing, what is in the market, and who else is producing. I am not going to claim that the story that is out there for anyone to read is even true. But it is out there.
Personally, I believe "the family" is a fairytale. I mean yeah, there are people who have been in that game for a long time. Some of them have children who are still in it... But "the family" is like little green martians. People call it by name and have a picture of what it is because someone/something planted that image in their mind. But in reality, life on mars is something completely different. It does exist, but it's not some story you read on a message board, or hear George Noory talk about or through a mouth full of oil, white bread and cheese.
In the case of "The Family" that you speak of... it was the message board post describing the grades of crystal and talking about being a member of "the family", the different "families", all night hotel spreading of crystal, and the "thumbprint" experience. It was written in a very short story sort of way, anonymous, and was a good read, as fiction. It was fun... It's evident many have made it into lore. Find any written information about "the family" prior to that famous post. Good luck,
... little green men, late night am radio, nessie.