canndo
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More to the point here - I really don't think you should have to pay any u.s. income tax if you live elsewhere - maybe a few bucks I guess for the customs and border guard people.
Should there be a cap on attainable wealth?
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canndo
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there is nothing immoral about demanding that you pay for services rendered, even if you didn't necessarily opt for those services you still used them.
Where is Rob Roy when you neeed him?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
The combat between principle and Macchiavelli's "enlightened self-interest" is eternal (so far). Imo that is what is missing from many utopian/small-government philosophies: an adequate defense against the practitioners of enlightened self-interest. Empire builders gonna empire, to energetically collide an expressed idea with a popular Internet form. cn
Mr Neutron
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I thought that is what my passport fees paid for. Certainly that little laminated booklet didn't cost nearly $200 to produce... oh, wait, it's the government, I guess I got a deal.
Mr Neutron
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What principle is that?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
The principle principle: operating from expressed principle as opposed to casuistry. cn
Mr Neutron
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OMFG... are you intentionally being obtuse?
Let me ask you this, do you think by giving exaggerated examples of regulations it advances your argument?
I don't know anyone that wants dirty air and water canndo, that sounds like left wing talking points!
How about getting rid of regulations that mandate trucking companies retrofit their entire fleet to meet current smog and safety requirements, that even includes trucks that are only five years old. The smaller trucking companies who cannot afford it, go out of business, this means many people lose their jobs. Is that a regulation you'd get behind?
UncleBuck
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cleverpiggy
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Whoever votes yes is a person with no ambition in life that is content on dying like a pathetic slug, or a silly communist. Also anyone who voted yes is a fucking liar. I bet you would change your fucking mind if you won the lottery or created the next Facebook. Jealous asshole commy motherfuckers want a limit on how much shit I can have, I say fuck you little cunts!
Carne Seca
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umm.. Hey Einstein. Read the poll again. This time, carefully.
ginwilly
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I remember growing up south of Detroit and not being able to swim in Lake Erie or eat any fish we caught because of toxic dumps coming out of union shops.
Why don't we allow child labor? I had a paper route at 10, can't do that anymore. I was a pinsetter at 13, can't do that anymore. We had laws even back then limiting the hours we could work after school, but we could at least work.
There's common sense regulations then there's regulations based on feelings instead of fact. We have shitty regulations that don't repealed, they get replaced instead with other shitty regulations.
cleverpiggy
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You were being kind, its More like hey dip-shit read the question more clearly. My bad, but you get my point.
Mr Neutron
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WTG, welcome to the pig sty.
Don't count on it again! LOL
canndo
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No beenthere - that is always what conservatives say - they don't want dirty air either they say, they don't want dirty water either, they say, but when asked what they will pay for or sacrifice in order to have clean air they grow curiously silent.
There is nothing exagerated about my statement - companies do evade this nation's labor laws and pollution standards by going to other countries. When would you suggest that those companies adhere to clean air standards? People might in fact lose their jobs beenthere, but people lose their lives from breathing dirty air. Why would you not want to limit such air conditions?
canndo
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Sol the toxic waste was the fault of unions? I think not,management makes those decisions. Children have been abused in this country and are still abused in other countries but corporations don't have a problem with that - our labor laws might be an inconvenience to a couple of 10 year olds who don't know how good they have it. You know how little I think of "common sense" and where it usually takes us. If we find that burning coal is a bad idea for the country then we weigh curtailing the buring of coal against the temporary loss of jobs.
The biggest thing that is never discussed is the fact that most regulations that hinder business are local and not federal, figure a way to fix that and you would see lots of new jobs created.
Mr Neutron
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Suspend income tax for a year and see how the economy jump starts itself.
If they move the company across the border and do the same things that we wouldnt allow, does it no longer affect the air?
So not only does the company do what they want, but the air doesnt get "saved".
Make the restrictions less so you get some of the "green" but not so much they just completely move and go !green completely.
canndo
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More of the same hu? we had a major reduction in income tax a number of years ago, and look at our economy. I have posted graphs indicating that the economy jumped each time taxes were raised and there was no such jump after taxes were reduced.
I will say that perhaps a few more folk will spend a little money, perhaps.