I will no longer trim before hanging..for real try it...way better...

[cartelmgm]

I have no idea what method you're talking about. Nouns ftw!


That being said you can make hash regardless of what method you use.

really no idea? what method do you think i am talking about? maybe the one in this thread
i'm asking because if i use this method by hanging the whole plant the leaves will dry up.

 

[gioua]

So last year I cut and hung stuff up..



read this thread said makes some sense.. Will be able to tell the diff or not.. we shall see.. Growing 2 of the exact same strains as last year and had NO issues with the taste-potency of last years grow... but willing to try it on a few this year.. my issue is..

I have a 8 foot bubba that in less I string from the roof will have to be chopped up a bit...


I am already trying it with an entire Carm plant and I did chop off a few Orange Crush collas but the main plant is still cooking...


There IS a fan running in this room (off pic) and back window open

 

[mr. green thumb 01]

Why will the large protruding fan leaves impart a bad taste on final product if it is hung to dry without trimming? Would you care to explain because i hear leaving the fan leaves on is best.

Just scanning through this thread and I have to makle a quick post to correct this person.

Cutting the fan leaves off causes excess moisture to evaporate thus causing the plants cells to die at a more rapid rate. Let me try to explain a little better...

Plants are made up of cells and cells are made up of mostly moisture. Once the cells dry up they are dead they are not active or cant do anything. The cells play a active role in the plant transporting moisture. So by not cutting off the fan leafs you keep all of the plants moisture within and the cells stay alive longer thus continuing to redistribute the moisture as it dries. Causing a even consistent dry. YES, the cells stay alive for quite some time after the plant is harvested and they do not want to die so they spread moisture to drying or dieing cells. Once you have made so many cuts the moisture is evaporating at such a rapid rate the cells cannot be replenished before they die/dry. And are left with lots of inner moisture. This is why people that trim first are always in a constant juggle with opening and closing jars watching RH as they bring out the inner moisture the dead cells could not receive.

Now, it is my theory that harvesting this way also allows the plant a few days alive in complete dark to really fully ripen every little branch as it knows its last days are now. Chop suey and the cells dont know wtf just happened and your left with exactly what you had when you chopped no potency increase no fully completely ripened plant because as we all know most plants dont ripen through out at the same period thats why some people harvest in sections. Harvesting as whole and trimming after dry has helped me obtain all of this.

Hopefully you took the time to read this and learn why trimming before you dry does or can potentially effect the final product

BTW I did not see this thread when I made my thread about a perfect dry Thank you http://www.cannabis.com/growing/index.html for showing me the way. I read and had many harvest or trial and error lots of ERROR lol but no more!

 

[mr. green thumb 01]

View attachment 2315139 View attachment 2315141Well in 6 weeks Im going to be hanging this girl up.. What did I get myself into ??

Okay I run in to this problem a lot and its AWESOME I love huge yielding plants! This will be a little time consuming but in the end will be totally worth it. Take present string (no fabric string) and tie around the highest exposed node/stem area of EACH large cola. Now tie each string to something high on the ceiling and let her hang UPRIGHT by the colas. Try your best to spread it out just as she was growing. The smaller branches will droop but hopefully the plant if high enough where they wont touch the floor. If they do touch the ground its best to tie them also. It may be a maze of strings but after 1-2 weeks when she is dry you can just go pick a branch and trim it and leave the rest hang until you have time to tend to it. Also hanging upright will make a dry trim so much easier.

Also if you have spider mites DONT hang the plant right side up. Hang it upside down and deal w/ the pita trim. It is said that as the plant is drying the spider mites will go to the highest point. Upside down being a stalk and right side up being a bud. AHHH! I cant say from experience on this one though.

Good luck!

 

[bongzilla610]

+rep for OP

this thread answered 90% of my dryout questions

definitely gonna dry slow and full

 

[gioua]

So last year I cut and hung stuff up..
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read this thread said makes some sense.. Will be able to tell the diff or not.. we shall see.. Growing 2 of the exact same strains as last year and had NO issues with the taste-potency of last years grow... but willing to try it on a few this year.. my issue is..

I have a 8 foot bubba that in less I string from the roof will have to be chopped up a bit...


I am already trying it with an entire Carm plant and I did chop off a few Orange Crush collas but the main plant is still cooking...


There IS a fan running in this room (off pic) and back window open

at this point I have all my plants with leaves hanging... have already harvested a few and each trim session has been pretty easy.. this year I did not have any help trimming unlike last year.. Last year (with help) I was able to knock out all my jars in 2 days..

this year has been different.. weather is cooler and drying takes longer too... but the smell... OHHHHHHHHH the smell is sooooo much more potent. I grew 2 same strains from last year and this year.. Now I wont give the drying 100% credit as I did use a new flowering agent called Superbloom and really felt this made them so much nice then last years

will be hanging the whole plants (or as much as I can) from now on..

 

[noobob]

lots of good info here, thanks alot!!

 

[LeafGnosis]

well, since I only have one plant that is approximately 3.4 feet tall, I will be hanging the whole thing in my drying room and will trim after two weeks + (smaller plant will probably take only 2 weeks...shall see) this is bag seed which smells nice..but would love to see what this can do to her. Thank you OP!!!!

 

[Canuck3]

I have a question about this method, my relative humidity level is roughly around 15-20%, is that low enough to hang the plants using this method and not have to worry about any mold issue? I'll have air circulation, but no fan directly on them. Just air passing through the room..
Also, how do I know when it's time to trim them and put them into jars? I've heard a few people say they hang for 2 weeks or 10 days etc... how will I know when it's time to trim?

Thanks!

 

[frmr240]

it does come out better, i've done it a few times. only thing is it seems to take a lot longer. and its harder cuz if your not careful you will knock off pieces of bud. it does seem to smoke better and smell better. i say because the moisture takes longer to evaporate, therefore, letting more chlorophyll leach into the water and evaporate out. plus its kind of extra assurance that it wont dry out too quickly, kind of a buffer if you will.

 

[NavySEALsVet]

Shit ill still keep trimming before I hang

 

[Trousers]

I trim before drying for a couple reason.

1. I love real, full melt bubble hash. If you do not get the sugar leaves in the freezer when wet, your hash will not be as good.
B. Trimming dry shakes a lot of the trichomes off. I did it once under a light and shuddered at all the lost trichomes.

Other than that, I see no big difference in the two methods as long as the dry/cure is done right.

 

[azryda420]

I chopped several plants and trimmed and then hung them to dry. Some of it has that hay type smell to it yet they look great.

A week later I chopped a huge one. Being lazy, I just hung it all as is. Well, I have since clipped all of this into a large bag and the smell, and taste is 100% better. It didn't click until reading this. I have two to go. I will be removing large fans, then hanging.

 

[bluntmassa1]

I'm going to try trimming after I dry next time cause I was reading a thread on the mr. nice forum and one guy said "When you trim wet, the pith leaks out of the vegetation and onto the buds which causes the smoke to be harsh." which seems about right cause some shit leaks out of the leaves and theirs no way them juices leaking on your buds will make them taste better. and someone else said neville recomended drying with the leaves on. even soma said in his organic book to cut only the fan leaves off then dry then trim and cure. either way its worth a side by side atleast but I'm only gonna pre trim one this time cause it really sounds like triming after dry is the way to go for the best tasting buds.

 

[Trousers]

lol ^

http://www.cannabis.com/growing/curing-what-is-the-best-way-to-dry-and-preserve-the-cure-for-smooth-sweet-buds.html

http://www.wietmeneer.nl/growing/haze.html

What do you mean "lol"?
What is your point? You post a link to some more opinions that may or may not be correct?

Thank you very little.

 

[Da Almighty Jew]

i agree, letting it dry with the leaves on is 100% better. I have done it a few times. One time i feed a couple of my plants too much up to the end. I trimmed one wet and one i trimmed dry. The stuff that was dry trimmed was very good. The other one that was wet trim was barely tolerable. To me at least..

 

[Trousers]

If thats what you call those then more lol @ you.

I guess the rest of those facts are just opinions also....? More lol.

Thank you

There is no reason to be an asshole. I'm just not seeing the facts.
Do you think opinions are facts? Then lol right back at you Big Fella. It is an anonymous blog post, lol.

Your inability to see the difference between opinions and facts is strange.

It sounds like the opinion of one person.
Is it a fact that plants turn out better if they are hung upside down?

He says to save the fan leaves to make hash. lol, who does that?
He says, "The stems should snap when you bend them." That is a bit misleading and may have caused some people to dry their weed too long.
"Just put as much bud in it (the jar) as possible using light pressure."
That is a bad idea, the lower buds will not finish as fast as the ones on top. I have never heard anyone advise that. factual? lol.
"Any excess moisture at this point will invite mold." That is not correct if it were dried properly.

He suggests putting your weed in the refrigerator, lol. Then he suggests storing weed in a freezer.
If you think this guy has written an article that is factual, sweet for you. enjoy your shitty tasting, freezer bud.

As I said, I cured a couple plants one with sugar leaves on and the other without. I did not do it to see if there is a difference, it just worked out that way. I didn't notice any difference. i also gave a couple solid reasons to trim wet. i didn't say one was better than the other, i was just pointing out my experience.

The second article is another blog post. It talks about flushing with pure water for at least a week, which is definitely not a fact. I assume he is talking about soil, but it is not clear in his opinion piece.
He only talks about drying and then smoking it. He doesn't really talk about curing.

If you want to believe those as fact, sweet for you.

Again, if you were smart enough to understand my post, you would not have been such a jackass. I did not say that drying with the leaves on is not a good idea, I just said in my experience I did not notice a difference.

Maybe once I get a nice large supply of bubble hash, I'll try, again, drying with leaves on. If it makes my weed slightly better, great!
My weed smells great and is cured perfectly. I'll be sure to contact you with the results, except I'll lie to you.

 

[cues]

TBH, I think the reason we get so many arguments about this is because we are all in areas of different humidity.
For example, if I get my jars down to 65% RH then open them up to burp where the RH is 75%, am I burping or inhaling/drowning?

 

[Trousers]

and people use different ways of curing
This is like the flushing argument. Every person had a different definition of flushing.

 

[hunter22375]

Whats the best rh% for a drying room for this to work best?