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billybob420

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dubya wanted to get us into iraq before 9/11.

the first thing he did after 9/11 was ask wolfowitz what he had on iraq.

he then misled the american public for a while until the may 2003 invasion.

the president controls the bully pulpit, and he used that along with his political capitol to get us in there.

obama was in lincoln protesting that it was not too late the day before the invasion.
Doesn't change what I said. You need to get off Obama's dick.

We're all responsible, that's the point. You don't like it cause that means your responsible as well. Good. You shouldn't like it, it's fucked.

PS. I was in Pitt throwing rocks at cops, and I STILL feel responsible. Ya'll trying to wash your hands of shit, to what means? So one day you can tell your grand kids "it wasn't me, it was those other guys"? Doesn't help a damn thing.

Also, if you can't tell I've started on the drink, so, forgive my bluntness/noncoherence. Won't be here for long.
 

UncleBuck

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Doesn't change what I said. You need to get off Obama's dick.

We're all responsible, that's the point. You don't like it cause that means your responsible as well. Good. You shouldn't like it, it's fucked.
so we're all responsible for bush's push to war, but obama and obama alone is to blame for [insert thing X]?

can't have it both ways.
 

abandonconflict

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I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office." —President Bush, in an interview with the Jerusalem Post, Washington, D.C., May 12, 2008
 

billybob420

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so we're all responsible for bush's push to war, but obama and obama alone is to blame for [insert thing X]?

can't have it both ways.
I'm not one of those people who blame Obama for everything. I don't try to have it both ways.

And yes, we are all responsible for what happen after 9/11. Shit got out of control and few of us had the nerve to stand up to it.
 

billybob420

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I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office." —President Bush, in an interview with the Jerusalem Post, Washington, D.C., May 12, 2008
That's the same for every presidency. You can't say Obama has been 100% transparent.
 

abandonconflict

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"Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere!" —President Bush, joking about his administration's failure to find WMDs in Iraq as he narrated a comic slideshow during the Radio & TV Correspondents' Association dinner, March 24, 2004
 

abandonconflict

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"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —President George W. Bush, Aug. 5, 2004
 

billybob420

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WTF is your point abandon?

You think I'm sticking up for bush?

I'm not.

But we as a country dropped the ball. Or you don't agree?
 

abandonconflict

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"Go f**k yourself." —Vice President Dick Cheney to Sen. Patrick Leahy, during an angry exchange on the Senate floor about profiteering by Halliburton, June 22, 2004
 

billybob420

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Well then. So be it.

I couldn't give a fuck less if you put it all on Bush. Just think it lack critical thinking is all.
 

abandonconflict

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"I'm the decider, and I decide what is best. And what's best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the Secretary of Defense." —President Bush,Washington, D.C., April 18, 2006
 

abandonconflict

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"So?" —Vice President Dick Cheney, responding to an ABC News correspondent who cited a poll showing that most Americans do not believe the Iraq War was worth fighting, March 19, 2008
 

billybob420

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yep, all Obama's fault, the GOP is awesome, moar neocons pl0x
No... I see you lost the point

By me saying the wars weren't all Bush's fault does not mean I"m saying the economy is all Obama's fault.

In fact, what I was saying is we all share responsibility, in what happen after 9/11 and in our economy. Our dick ass politicians don't help matters, but once we start blaming everything on them and taking the blame off ourselves, I don't know.. I just think it's a road to shit.

And for real... I'm basically as liberal as you can get. Kind of like Doer said, I'm left of the Left. But, not like Doer cause he was on some bullshit, lol
 

abandonconflict

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"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006
 

abandonconflict

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"I think I was unprepared for war." –on the biggest regret of his presidency, ABC News interview, Dec. 1, 2008

This right here, why the economy tanked, why it was all that MFKR to blame. 18 veteran suicides a day, some of my best friends, for Halliburton profit.
 

abandonconflict

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"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005
 
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