Landlord coming into my apartment

Highjynx

Active Member
Hey guys!

I could really use some advice...

I recently got my license to produce, and within the last month set up 6 plants in the bedroom of my rental apartment. Today I got a notice that my landlord needs access to my unit for an inspection of my windows.

I live in Ontario, and I am wondering if anyone else who lives here has had a similar situation and knows if I even need to give him/them access to the room. The window in the room has been boarded shut, and I would rather not have him see what is going on in there if I can help it.

Thanks in advance!
 

theQuetzalcoatl

Active Member
Can a tenant refuse to let the landlord in if the landlord wants to enter their unit?
If the landlord enters the tenant's unit as allowed by the Act, the tenant cannot refuse to let the landlord in. If the tenant does not let the landlord in, the landlord can give them a notice of termination claiming that the tenant is interfering with their lawful rights. A Member could order the tenant’s eviction for this reason. Also, interfering with a landlord’s lawful right is an offence under the Act, and the tenant could be prosecuted.
For information about when a landlord can enter and how much notice a landlord is required to give before entering a tenant’s rental unit, see A Guide to the Residential Tenancies Act.
 

Highjynx

Active Member
Thanks for the quick reply!

While I realize i must grant him access to my apartment, can i refuse access to the bedroom area? If not should I remove the covering from the window?
I'm not entirely clear on the rules about this, and I tried to do some research and can't find any specifics.
My real concern is that my girls are still very young and were recently transplanted. I don't want to stress them more than I have to, and moving everything would be an absolute nightmare.
 

theQuetzalcoatl

Active Member
Honestly? It's probably the boarded up window that prompted the window inspection. He's gonna want to see it. In direct answer, no you cannot refuse him access to any portion of the unit as long as he's given you notice. Sorry, but I think you're going to be moving your girls.
 

NW2AZ

Member
The less suspicion the better. Id say remove the covering and hide the babes. Its one day of work compared to months of bullshit, legal or not.
 

djbluephoenix

Active Member
When you get your license to grow dont they have a seperate mandatory form asking you to get permision from your landlord if you rent your space? Because they usualy ask you to put down the address then ask you if its a rental or if you own your property. I live in alberta and every card holder i know had to go through this procedure.. they even ask you if it will be grown by a third party.. friend or a paid person then ask for there address as well.

I wouldnt think the rules would be different as the license is issued federally?
 

Highjynx

Active Member
This is the rule according to health Canada:

The consent of the property owner is only required for individuals who are applying for a license to produce marihuana for medical purposes when the proposed production site is not the ordinary residence of the applicant AND is not owned by either the applicant or, where applicable, the designated person.

My understanding based on this is that because the production site is also my ordinary residence I did not nor do i need the consent of the property owner. My real concern is that he will not be happy to find out I am growing and may use other excuses to try to evict me, for example I am breaking the fire code or something like that. Just wondering if anyone who is renting has had a similar situation and if there is anything like that I should be concerned about. As per your advice i will remove the window cover prior to inspection


 

Pharoah

Active Member
A patient does not have to get approval from their landlord if the production site is also the patients living location. I know of nobody who "HAD" to get approval from the landlord, unless the rental was used for the express purpose of medicine production, and there was no tenants actually living on the premises. Anyone who lived at their production site who did get approval did so willingly but was not required.

As for your situation Highjynx, is if you have a dog of some sort, you could easily move your babies/equipment for a short time to the bathroom, and just say "My dogs in there". Simple solution should you have a dog.

If there was another tenant there ie girlfriend, you could simply move the babies into the bathroom, and have her "Taking a shower" at the time the landlord comes.

There's ways to get around this sort of thing, you just have to be creative.


EDIT;

If you're alone, answer the door in your towel, and say "Excuse me, I was just getting into the shower, feel free to look at the windows."

Meanwhile, your sitting on the toilet on your bathroom, enjoying the company of your ladies while the landlord looks around at the windows. If you have a window in the bathroom as well, just tell them to explore all other windows, and that you will contact them once you are finished in the bathroom for the bathroom window, once you hear the front door close, pile all your plants/equip back in the room and contact them to look at the bathroom window.
 

Highjynx

Active Member
Hey pharoah!

Thanks, those are great suggestions, unfortunately i have them in a DWC system and with its size there really is no way to move them out of that room without destroying the whole system. At this point i believe my best bet might be to simply let my landlord know what the situation is (he already knows i have a license to possess) and hope all goes well. Otherwise he could just find another excuse to come in next month and I'm in the same situation again...

As for the window covering being the issue, it is plywood covered in black white with a window blind on the outside. From outside it just looks like closed blinds.
 

Garm

Active Member
If he gives you grief about your legal grow tell him you will be filing a Human Rights complaint against him. This should cool him off.
 

ditrbag1

Member
being aggressive about the situation would not help anything, dont make threats, it only serves to bring more heat. Move your plants, and setup. you growing there pretty much nulifies any kind of insurance he has on the property, I guarantee you this: I'm a federal exemptee, and I recently finished up a big insurance claim on my house, insurance companies are assholes, so anything they can find to not pay a claim is $$ in their pocket. BTW, my claim wasnt growing related or happened while growing there. Best of luck to you
 

Garm

Active Member
being aggressive about the situation would not help anything, dont make threats, it only serves to bring more heat. Move your plants, and setup. you growing there pretty much nulifies any kind of insurance he has on the property, I guarantee you this: I'm a federal exemptee, and I recently finished up a big insurance claim on my house, insurance companies are assholes, so anything they can find to not pay a claim is $$ in their pocket. BTW, my claim wasnt growing related or happened while growing there. Best of luck to you
Sorry to say you are wrong. If my grow torches my house and as long as I have a current MMAR I am insured.
 

Whatstrain

Well-Known Member
Sorry to say you are wrong. If my grow torches my house and as long as I have a current MMAR I am insured.

They might say you are insured but no insurance company isnt going to not hassle you for growing. Im sure they could even come up with some BS saying you didnt inform them you were growing. (had far to many insurance company's fuck me over)
 

Pharoah

Active Member
Case managers are paid bonuses to refuse as many as possible, they will find any technicality they can to get out of paying. Ask any insurance company if their company is structured in such a way, they cannot not answer or lie.
 

ditrbag1

Member
Case managers are paid bonuses to refuse as many as possible, they will find any technicality they can to get out of paying. Ask any insurance company if their company is structured in such a way, they cannot not answer or lie.
You're dead right Pharoah, Mr. Garm, have you contacted your insurance broker and informed them that you are cultivating mj legally in your home ?? And if so, have they made any adjustments to your policy or requested copies of building permits ??
 

Garm

Active Member
You're dead right Pharoah, Mr. Garm, have you contacted your insurance broker and informed them that you are cultivating mj legally in your home ?? And if so, have they made any adjustments to your policy or requested copies of building permits ??
Yes I have. And yes I am insured as long as I have a valid MMAR. State Farm.
 

Pharoah

Active Member
until they come in and see there's something slightly wrong with the wiring to your grow room ie extension cord in use, or any other number of technicalities that cause them to use the DENIED stamp as opposed to the approved. The second they find anything not up to code, that's the second you realize their not worth the money you pay them.
 

sunni

Administrator
Staff member
yeah you need consent from your landlord in order to grow, it is not your property unfortunately, and if you refuse him aces to the apartment he can put up eviction or termination of lease, he can also just go in if he thinks youre doing something illegal, or there is a hazard in the apartment.
 

Pharoah

Active Member
yeah you need consent from your landlord in order to grow, it is not your property unfortunately, and if you refuse him aces to the apartment he can put up eviction or termination of lease, he can also just go in if he thinks youre doing something illegal, or there is a hazard in the apartment.

He only needs consent if he does not live at the grow location., the rest is accurate.
 

Sir.Ganga

New Member
Sorry to say you are wrong. If my grow torches my house and as long as I have a current MMAR I am insured.
Sadly that is what most people think...but thats not the case at all. If your house burns down for whatever reason and you have a grow operation legal or not your insurance will be terminated and you will get nada. Your insurance company requires inspections on improvements in electrical and plumbing. Without your insurance agent knowing your position, your screwed.

Legally a renter has to inform his landlord of any changes to his property(even a tent creates moisture and that means MOLD), the paperwork you fill out for HC is only to cover HC'S butts when this happens and it does.

I have evicted 2 renters for this exact reason and the renter has no rights in this situation legal or not.
 
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