Has anyone used this product, to destroy those fraking water or fungus gnats????

[Panama507]

Anybody heard of this mosquito dunks? I have alot of little flying gnats that live in the hydro stone until I flood the table and then they fly away and come back after the water drains, I can't get rid of those fuckers, somebody on they forum suggested I use this product pictured below. I jus don't know how to use it, I was told to put it and desolve it in the resevoir, but won't my plants suck it up as well, and being that it kills Mosquitos wouldnt it kill me baby girls? Or is it safe for plants and deadly for those I guess water or fungus gnats. Any help will be greatly appreciated thx.....

The product's name is Mosquito Dunks

 

[HeartlandHank]

it's totally safe for plants.

if you want to go a little more agressive... knock them back first with a strong pyrethrin. you have to mix pyrethrin REALLY strong to kill off the larvae though. Or if in veg, you could use imid... kind of overkill though.

Gnatrol WSP works a little better, its the same ingredients. Mosquito dunks in the res is a little more of a preventative. I always have one in my nutes.

Lay down yellow sticky traps around the plants. It helps a lot with the adults. For larva, along with the dunks/gnatrol, throw a couple potato slices just a little below the surface of the media... wait two days... quickly pull them out and dispose. The larvae get on the potato slice to eat. You can see them moving on the slice. You just throw them away.

aside from the strong stuff (pryethrin and imid)... Mosquito dunks and yellow traps all the time and potato slices now and again will keep them in check. Also, don't overwater. Fungus gnats are a sign of root rot.

You also might want to check into root aphids and make sure you do not have them as well. Some of the flying root aphids look nearly identical to fungus gnats. Their body is a little fatter though, and they are much faster and coordinated. This is the time of year that you would get them. Ants bring them in from the heat.

 

[West Coast Cultivation]

are you sure they are fungus gnats and not root aphids? The easiest way to tell is without a microscope is to try and squish on with the tip of your finger moving it at regualr speed. Don't try and move your finger so fast that it scares the pest, but rather a steady pace and if the pest jumps out of the way time and time again its a root aphid, if it lets you squish it, it's a gnat. The dunks work okay for gnats but for root aphids you're going to need something else. Although a ton of people will laugh and prob disagree but Bearer company sells a tree and shub pesticide that WILL kill root aphids the very first application and it doesn't harm your plants or leave a residule flavor or smell when harvested. I obviously wouldn't apply past 3 or 4 weeks into flower (if that) and would make sure I knocked the problem back before it gets out of hand. Root aphids are worse than P.M. and mites combined in my oppinion. I would make sure that trap the pests as well as you could during application or you're going to continue to chase your tail. If you need anymore help let me know....

W.C.C.

 

[West Coast Cultivation]

Damn heartlandhank, you beat me to it... Root Aphids are a nasty fucking pest. I've only seen them once in a garden and they took over faster than the plague! Believe it or not the ghetto pesticide I mentioned above was the only thing to completely rid the garden of them...

W.C.C.

 

[Panama507]

it's totally safe for plants.

if you want to go a little more agressive... knock them back first with a strong pyrethrin. you have to mix pyrethrin REALLY strong to kill off the larvae though. Or if in veg, you could use imid... kind of overkill though.

Gnatrol WSP works a little better, its the same ingredients. Mosquito dunks in the res is a little more of a preventative. I always have one in my nutes.

Lay down yellow sticky traps around the plants. It helps a lot with the adults. For larva, along with the dunks/gnatrol, throw a couple potato slices just a little below the surface of the media... wait two days... quickly pull them out and dispose. The larvae get on the potato slice to eat. You can see them moving on the slice. You just throw them away.

aside from the strong stuff (pryethrin and imid)... Mosquito dunks and yellow traps all the time and potato slices now and again will keep them in check. Also, don't overwater. Fungus gnats are a sign of root rot.

You also might want to check into root aphids and make sure you do not have them as well. Some of the flying root aphids look nearly identical to fungus gnats. Their body is a little fatter though, and they are much faster and coordinated. This is the time of year that you would get them. Ants bring them in from the heat.

I only flood 3 times a day (is that over watering?), so I put the dunks or the other product in the res, then some potato slices under my hydro stone, then I would use the pyrethrin to spray or is it a mixture that also goes in the resevoir???

 

[imchucky666]

Anybody heard of this mosquito dunks? I have alot of little flying gnats that live in the hydro stone until I flood the table and then they fly away and come back after the water drains, I can't get rid of those fuckers, somebody on they forum suggested I use this product pictured below. I jus don't know how to use it, I was told to put it and desolve it in the resevoir, but won't my plants suck it up as well, and being that it kills Mosquitos wouldnt it kill me baby girls? Or is it safe for plants and deadly for those I guess water or fungus gnats. Any help will be greatly appreciated thx.....

The product's name is Mosquito Dunks

Your pic didn't come through, but NONE of the guys that have been here more than a couple months would recommend you something that might harm your plants.
You may find one suggestion works better than another, but that happens anywhere.

 

[Panama507]

are you sure they are fungus gnats and not root aphids? The easiest way to tell is without a microscope is to try and squish on with the tip of your finger moving it at regualr speed. Don't try and move your finger so fast that it scares the pest, but rather a steady pace and if the pest jumps out of the way time and time again its a root aphid, if it lets you squish it, it's a gnat. The dunks work okay for gnats but for root aphids you're going to need something else. Although a ton of people will laugh and prob disagree but Bearer company sells a tree and shub pesticide that WILL kill root aphids the very first application and it doesn't harm your plants or leave a residule flavor or smell when harvested. I obviously wouldn't apply past 3 or 4 weeks into flower (if that) and would make sure I knocked the problem back before it gets out of hand. Root aphids are worse than P.M. and mites combined in my oppinion. I would make sure that trap the pests as well as you could during application or you're going to continue to chase your tail. If you need anymore help let me know....

W.C.C.

I could squish them easily but it's alot of those fucks.....

 

[HeartlandHank]

Damn heartlandhank, you beat me to it... Root Aphids are a nasty fucking pest. I've only seen them once in a garden and they took over faster than the plague! Believe it or not the ghetto pesticide I mentioned above was the only thing to completely rid the garden of them...

W.C.C.

Yep, they are fucking terrible. I would take a Powdery mildew, spider mite and thrips garden over a root aphids infested any day.

I used Merit 75, among other things. Merit 75 is a nearly pure form of imidacalprolid (sp?) which is also the main ingredient in the Bayer Tree and shrub. Same stuff really. One jar for 75$US would get you through a root aphid zombie apocalypse. Something like 1/2 a teaspoon treats 10 gallons of water.

 

[Panama507]

Your pic didn't come through, but NONE of the guys that have been here more than a couple months would recommend you something that might harm your plants.
You may find one suggestion works better than another, but that happens anywhere.

Whats up dude I remember you from the other thread, ur absolutely right bro I just wanted to make sure because I really can't kill my babies lol

 

[Panama507]

Yep, they are fucking terrible. I would take a Powdery mildew, spider mite and thrips garden over a root aphids infested any day.

I used Merit 75, among other things. Merit 75 is a nearly pure form of imidacalprolid (sp?) which is also the main ingredient in the Bayer Tree and shrub. Same stuff really. One jar for 75$US would get you through a root aphid zombie apocalypse. Something like 1/2 a teaspoon treats 10 gallons of water.

Lol fuck it I'm going to use all those products just in case I have both better to be safe then sorry....

 

[imchucky666]

Whats up dude I remember you from the other thread, ur absolutely right bro I just wanted to make sure because I really can't kill my babies lol

Ya, no problem.
Can't and don't blame ya.

 

[HeartlandHank]

Lol fuck it I'm going to use all those products just in case I have both better to be safe then sorry....

If you do have root aphids it takes a whole lot more than using imid to get rid of them. that was my experience anyway with a pretty bad infestation. quarantine and clone is what really works.

Before going there, make sure you have root aphids, i would say.

 

[Panama507]

None of what u suggested will kill my babies, right?

 

[Panama507]

If you do have root aphids it takes a whole lot more than using imid to get rid of them. quarantine and clone is what really works.

Before going there, make sure you have root aphids, i would say.

Damn man if it isn't 1 thing its another lol smh

 

[HeartlandHank]

Gnatrol, Mosquito Dunks, potato slices, yellow sticky traps, liquid pyrethrin and imid are all safe for your plants. They will not kill them when used properly.

Liquid pyrethrin usually comes in a very oily mix... if you over do it then the oils can damage your roots, even to the point of death. If done properly though, it will not kill your plants.
Imid can cause the plants to be a little sensitive to light. Raising the lights and not over doing it will keep them safe. I believe the label says to not use imid less than 65 days from harvest. So basically, only in veg. If you have root aphids in flower and you are less than 4 weeks in then you are better off throwing out the plants, dealing with the problem, then starting up a new. If you are within 4 weeks of finish then you can fight them off with liquid pyrethrin. But your yield and quality will be dimished.

Just do some research on fungus gnats and root aphids.. There are more than one variety of root aphids.. Learn how to identify them. Then look at your grow and find out if you have them or not. Look into the root aphids that people refer to as "tank beetles" (black) and the microscopic (white and very small). Flood your table up to or just above your rocks and have a look at what is floating or crawling up stems.

After that you will know if you have a fungus gnat problem or a root aphid problem.

If it is a root aphid problem then you probably have fungus gnats as well, the fungus gnats will be eradicated in the process of dealing with root aphids. If it is just fungus gnats then it will be much easier.

Let me know and i can share what has worked for me with both. My experience however is in coco and peat mixes. But with a little research you could use the same ideas with flood and drain.

 

[HeartlandHank]

I could squish them easily but it's alot of those fucks.....

yeah, if they are easily squashed, then i would say they are fungus gnats. Those uncoordinated pests look like they are drunk. A root aphid would give you trouble for sure. Spread that test around and you could make a pretty good guess as to what you have. Nice idea West Coast.

 

[Panama507]

Gnatrol, Mosquito Dunks, potato slices, yellow sticky traps, liquid pyrethrin and imid are all safe for your plants. They will not kill them when used properly.

Liquid pyrethrin usually comes in a very oily mix... if you over do it then the oils can damage your roots, even to the point of death. If done properly though, it will not kill your plants.
Imid can cause the plants to be a little sensitive to light. Raising the lights and not over doing it will keep them safe. I believe the label says to not use imid less than 65 days from harvest. So basically, only in veg. If you have root aphids in flower and you are less than 4 weeks in then you are better off throwing out the plants, dealing with the problem, then starting up a new. If you are within 4 weeks of finish then you can fight them off with liquid pyrethrin. But your yield and quality will be dimished.

Just do some research on fungus gnats and root aphids.. There are more than one variety of root aphids.. Learn how to identify them. Then look at your grow and find out if you have them or not. Look into the root aphids that people refer to as "tank beetles" (black) and the microscopic (white and very small).

After that you will know if you have a fungus gnat problem or a root aphid problem.

If it is a root aphid problem then you probably have fungus gnats as well, the fungus gnats will be eradicated in the process of dealing with root aphids. If it is just fungus gnats then it will be much easier.

Let me know and i can share what has worked for me with both. My experience however is in coco and peat mixes. But with a little research you could use the same ideas with flood and drain.

Thanks a bunch bro, I am less then 2 weeks to harvest and they just came like last week, so after I chop my girls I am going to fuck those fuckers up lol, and from now on I will make sure to have a mosquito dunk in the res so it could prevent this from happening again, hay where can I buy those products u mentioned, can I go to a lowes or a home depot or would I have to order them off line???

 

[Panama507]

yeah, if they are easily squashed, then i would say they are fungus gnats. Those uncoordinated pests look like they are drunk. A root aphid would give you trouble for sure. Spread that test around and you could make a pretty good guess as to what you have. Nice idea West Coast.

I'm just goin to try all the products you recomended after i harvest, just to make sure I kill everything before I start again....

 

[HeartlandHank]

I'm just goin to try all the products you recomended after i harvest, just to make sure I kill everything before I start again....

It varies by location.

If you are going to root drench with imid, then i would say you don't really need the liquid pyrethrin. Liquid pyrethrin is the most harmful of all the listed treatments. its the oil, not the pyrethrin that does the damage.

Your local hydro store should carry most of them. Imid can be had from Home depot as Bayer Tree and shrub, or ordered online as Merit 75. Merit 75 is expensive, but it is a lifetime supply, seriously. Most home depots will carry mosquito dunks, some do not for some reason. Some carry yellow traps, some do not. Hydro store would definitely have yellow traps. Gnatrol would def have to come from a hydro store.

I would say treat all of your veg plants with imid and lay out yellow sticky traps to catch the adult gnats... after that, you can just start your preventative plan for fungus gnats... mosquito dunks, yellow traps all the time. potatoes maybe once a month. Gnatrol if you start to see gnats on the traps.

That is the great thing about potato slices and yellow traps. You get to see if they are re establishing or not.

 

[HeartlandHank]

i had a couple vicodin, dental work... that's why i am typing up a storm... haha. sorry to drown you in my fucking mini-novel posts. Good luck man.