Advanced Nutrients Sensi Bloom A&B Help

[Uncle Ben]

You're the victim now right?

I'm too smart to be a victim unlike some I know.

Momma didn't raise no fool!

 

[Uncle Ben]

....I have images all lined up. Some UB will not be happy to see again.. of his own plants. When you've been around as long as Ben you in inadvertently post not so great photos. Later you can cherry pic. Someone shared a few with me. Not looking good.

Bring 'em on, ya creepy troll! Let's see those pix you've saved over the years (for some strange reason.). And "someone" just happened to share my photos they saved to their hard drive of MY plants? Gawd, this is hilarious!

Ya mean photos like these where I used cheap Walmart indoor fertilizers?

Do youself a favor and google amino acid chelation in plant nutrients and write all those scientist and professors that you think they're wrong.. too funny.. remember these days years down the line when you get it..

What scientists and professors? They work for and represent a snake oil company ya spinmeister.

No, YOU do me a favor and answer my previous questions. 2nd, do us all a favor and post the benefits of applying amino acid laden supplements to plant material. I want the proof to be from a non-partisan, non-bias, scientific organization such as a university who follows proper and standard testing conventions such as replicating the study three times with exactly the same conditions and procedures and of course..... using a control group.

For starts, just because some shyster ad tells you it contains something (as a sales gimmick) doesn't mean it's so. AN's products have been exposed for misrepresentation and fraud by non-partisan testing organizations. Links have been published here at RIU on several occasions.

Uncle Ben

 

[TriPurple]

Happenin', I have a Q. for HB & UB or anybody for that matter... I was reading about nute. intake in hydroponics. One theory that makes sense...... but I've only read this once & I need to have more answers. Measuring daily your water level will drop, if your ppm's stay the same your nute. level is right on. If your ppm's go up than the plant isn't taking them all in & you need to add water to lower your ppm's. If your ppm's go down than you add nutes. to a level that holds each day. Thanks!!!!

 

[homebrewer]

Happenin', I have a Q. for HB & UB or anybody for that matter... I was reading about nute. intake in hydroponics. One theory that makes sense...... but I've only read this once & I need to have more answers. Measuring daily your water level will drop, if your ppm's stay the same your nute. level is right on. If your ppm's go up than the plant isn't taking them all in & you need to add water to lower your ppm's. If your ppm's go down than you add nutes. to a level that holds each day. Thanks!!!!

I'll send you a PM.

 

[eDude]

Happenin', I have a Q. for HB & UB or anybody for that matter... I was reading about nute. intake in hydroponics. One theory that makes sense...... but I've only read this once & I need to have more answers. Measuring daily your water level will drop, if your ppm's stay the same your nute. level is right on. If your ppm's go up than the plant isn't taking them all in & you need to add water to lower your ppm's. If your ppm's go down than you add nutes. to a level that holds each day. Thanks!!!!

Your ppms are 'parts per million' of general salts in your mix. Let's say you started with 1000ppm. Then the next day you tested and it was 900ppm. The idea is that the plants have taken in more nutrients then water. NEXT mix you might be able to go harder with the nutrients. If you tested the water and it said 1100ppm then it's the other way around. You're plants are taking up more water then nutrients and you should dilute your nutes more. If I test it and it comes back at 1000 like the original mix then you're in the sweet spot. The plant is taking up water and nutes at the same rate.

Don't let any idiots tell you to add more nutes to your mix while it's running. That is wrong. You should only add pure pH'd water to top off your res daily. In large commercial grows they have much better equipment that will tell them what elements are missing. Then and only then can they make the supplement to be added biased on their readings. Those meters are thousands of dollars.

 

[eDude]

Feeding plants properly is about balance. The 'booster' you're referring to will only benefit a plant if one's base nutes aren't already supplying adequate amounts of P and K. You can't force a plant to use more P and K than it needs (are you familiar with nutrient antagonism?) so lets hypothetically say in your universe you're actually seeing gains of 30-50% when using your 'booster', well that just means your base nutes aren't supplying your plants with the right ratios of salts.

Here is a free tip: look for base nutes that supply your plants with all the essential elements in the ratios that you find work best in your environment. Doing so will make troubleshooting easier and allow you to cut out all those unnecessary bottles that seem to do you guys more harm than good.

I think it's the fact that it's in more than one container is confusing the hell out of these noobs. "They should just make that a one part" is why he doesn't like it now.. Is that what it is? You guy don't like to make cake (too complicated for you) so you just like to by pre mixed cake mix for noobs.. I get it now. You're covering for your ignorance. You only know cake mix so.. everyone needs to use cake mix.. You really should spend some time on a real MJ board. You're like a cult of ignorance here. Why have salt and pepper in different bottles.. they should just make a bottle with both.. right?

Hey everyone.. he gave us that tip for free.. I wonder what the everyday price he sells that for??


lol I feel like I'm outside the Blue Lagoon beating the snot out of three drunk idiots at the same time. So much fun~!

 

[eDude]

What scientists and professors? They work for and represent a snake oil company ya spinmeister.

You're right.. Google is in on the conspiracy too. Do you have any idea how crazy you sound or how much I'm laughing at you?

You're an apologetic aren't you? You have that lack of logic.

 

[TriPurple]

Damn, now I'm hungry for cake........ think I'll make one from scratch.

 

[TriPurple]

Your ppms are 'parts per million' of general salts in your mix. Let's say you started with 1000ppm. Then the next day you tested and it was 900ppm. The idea is that the plants have taken in more nutrients then water. NEXT mix you might be able to go harder with the nutrients. If you tested the water and it said 1100ppm then it's the other way around. You're plants are taking up more water then nutrients and you should dilute your nutes more. If I test it and it comes back at 1000 like the original mix then you're in the sweet spot. The plant is taking up water and nutes at the same rate.

Don't let any idiots tell you to add more nutes to your mix while it's running. That is wrong. You should only add pure pH'd water to top off your res daily. In large commercial grows they have much better equipment that will tell them what elements are missing. Then and only then can they make the supplement to be added biased on their readings. Those meters are thousands of dollars.

When you run 1 mix for 10-12 days the ppm's are going to change generally, I have seen no ill side affects from adding nutes to the mix. If you wait till each mix your missing many stages of a plants growth spurts. What a plant needs can change every few days. Thanks for the input... I'm starting to agree with ppm nute. intake

 

[Uncle Ben]

You're right.. Google is in on the conspiracy too. Do you have any idea how crazy you sound or how much I'm laughing at you?

You're an apologetic aren't you? You have that lack of logic.

Hey Roger Dodger, answer the questions. Can't do it, can ya?

 

[eDude]

When you run 1 mix for 10-12 days the ppm's are going to change generally, I have seen no ill side affects from adding nutes to the mix. If you wait till each mix your missing many stages of a plants growth spurts. What a plant needs can change every few days. Thanks for the input... I'm starting to agree with ppm nute. intake

In general you're running a risk. What 'might' happen and what they want to avoid is something like this. Imagine the plant is using more of one element then another. Let's say that there is K being left behind and we keep topping off with our general mix. At some point the K or whatever element can build up to a level that starts to wreak havoc with other processes. To be optimum, with out the ability to know what elements are left behind, is to dump the tank and get a full mix of fresh nutrients. It seems wasteful and I did get tired of all the waste water with hydro... but that is the only way to be sure your plants are getting everything they need. You can always tweak to your preference but these are the general guides. 1 week with nutes and dump or 50% of the water has be replaced with pure water for a recycling system whatever comes first. There are exceptions. If you have one 4x4 inch cube and 100 gallon res then that doesn't really apply..

Check out drip to waste. It eliminates a lot of these issues. I think it's pretty much the best system for perfect application of nutrients.

 

[str8sativa]

Im using advanced nutrients sensi grow and bloom im going to switch to bloom in a day or two wanted to see if some one could help me out with a feeding chart i looked on advanced site and its really crapy and does not have all the info i need im using
Sensi Bloom A&B
Big Bud
Bud Candy
B52
Bud Blood
Final Phase
Bush Master
OverDrive
Cha Ching
Phosphoload
Bat GuanO Mexican
and i mite pick up some
Nirvana
Rhino Skin
Bud Ignitor
VooDoo Juice
if you think i should add something or not use something all input welcome thank you

lol whats the point of adding guano when you have so many synthetic nutes. if your plants survive this massive onslaught of chemicals there gonna taste like shit. go all 100% organic or not at all

 

[eDude]

Hey Roger Dodger, answer the questions. Can't do it, can ya?

Sounds like someone feels threatened.. lol Since your so keen on it. Why don't you "post the lack of benefits of applying amino acid laden supplements to plant material. I want the proof to be from a non-partisan, non-bias, scientific organization such as a university who follows proper and standard testing conventions such as replicating the study three times with exactly the same conditions and procedures and of course..... using a control group."

See how this works with Ben? He keep moving the goal post until it's some absurd condition that is non existent. All he's has to do it try it to really know if it works or not but that's the last thing in the world he'll do. If he does that and it does work.. then what? He's not willing to back that bet at all.

No one cares if you use it or not. Science is science.. nothing less.

Also, Ben you do know that Jorge Cervantes recommends sea weed extract and notes as one of the benefits that it has amino acids.

You'd better get old Jorge on the phone and straighten him out.. Ask him that same question why don't ya?

 

[TriPurple]

I never seen a bigger or healthier root mass than a DWC or aerogarden .......

 

[eDude]

I never seen a bigger or healthier root mass than a DWC or aerogarden .......

well.. those are the system that make it easiest to see the root mass.. I did DWC a few times and there are LOTS of nice white happy roots.. I just hated moving all the water in and out.. That was back in the 90's..

A plant in the ground grown all season might be a good comparison for rootmass. Areo isn't for everyone.. It's pretty top notch and when done right there is no comparison. But it's got to be done right. A lot of people have problems with keeping the temps (of the water) down..

 

[decrimCA]

edude your better off arguing with a brick wall that arguing with these dudes dont even waste your breath on them there not worth your time

Yes, that.

I thought mudslinging and deflecting issues was for politics. LOL

Most of the time, I don't believe anyone who focuses more on what doesn't work than what does. It sounds like BS to me. I want advice, you know. And while I know a bit of it is opinion in the end, being all whiny about marketing stuff is just a waste of time.

I'm not a marketer, I'm an MMJ grower. I could give an F less about what a marketing plan might be. that's the company's problem, not mine.

 

[hooked.on.ponics]

I thought mudslinging and deflecting issues was for politics. LOL

Hehe, if only.

Sometimes the arguments over nutes get more heated the politics. Nuts if you ask me.

 

[nikk2051]

hey everyone im looking for some opinions ive been useing general organics starter box im useing
veg
-bio thriev grow
-bio root
-bio weed
-bio marine
-cal/mag
-black diamond for the first two weeks of veg only
bloom
-bio thriev bloom
-bio bud
-cal/mag
-sweet by botanicare i add that
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im on day 15 of flowering and im not impressed i want to start useing some of advance nutes for my next batch couse i have a sea of green going
for my next line ive chosen the following by advance nutes
veg
-sensi grow
-sensi cal/mag
-rhino skin
-voodoo juice
bloom
-sensi bloom
-sensi cal mag
-bud candy
-big bud
-bud factor x
is this a good line up pls i need help befor i run out of my general organics

 

[Uncle Ben]

hey everyone im looking for some opinions ive been useing general organics starter box im useing
veg
-bio thriev grow
-bio root
-bio weed
-bio marine
-cal/mag
-black diamond for the first two weeks of veg only
bloom
-bio thriev bloom
-bio bud
-cal/mag
-sweet by botanicare i add that
View attachment 2357010

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im on day 15 of flowering and im not impressed i want to start useing some of advance nutes for my next batch couse i have a sea of green going
for my next line ive chosen the following by advance nutes
veg
-sensi grow
-sensi cal/mag
-rhino skin
-voodoo juice
bloom
-sensi bloom
-sensi cal mag
-bud candy
-big bud
-bud factor x
is this a good line up pls i need help befor i run out of my general organics

Huh? No electrolytes?

 

[BUdbuddysmile]

hey everyone im looking for some opinions ive been useing general organics starter box im useing
veg
-bio thriev grow
-bio root
-bio weed
-bio marine
-cal/mag
-black diamond for the first two weeks of veg only
bloom
-bio thriev bloom
-bio bud
-cal/mag
-sweet by botanicare i add that
View attachment 2357010

View attachment 2357011
im on day 15 of flowering and im not impressed i want to start useing some of advance nutes for my next batch couse i have a sea of green going
for my next line ive chosen the following by advance nutes
veg
-sensi grow
-sensi cal/mag
-rhino skin
-voodoo juice
bloom
-sensi bloom
-sensi cal mag
-bud candy
-big bud
-bud factor x
is this a good line up pls i need help befor i run out of my general organics

If you are still looking to get some organics in the mix, AN Nirvana is a good additive to throw in the mix. Overdrive last two weeks. UBen is right about one thing, Electrolytes are crucial if you want to keep your plants energized.