And They Say Tax Cuts Do Not Create Jobs

[beenthere]

If Tax cuts create jobs

Where are the fucking jobs?

I'm a whole lot better than I was 4 years ago.

If anybody is counting on our elected officials to help us out then you need to wake up and learn to take care of yourselves.

I'm doing better
you would also if you stop your fucking whining and actually try

i would have to say yes im better off...

I'm doing much better than I was 4 years ago.

Just about everyone I know is better off.

Yep I'm broke, just closed on my 4th house last month.

Well there we have it folks, it looks like tax cuts do in fact, create jobs.

 

[ink the world]

Nice try Clayton, the tax cuts were signed into law in 2001 & 2003.

So, it takes a decade for the "job creators" to use that tax break?

 

[Jasonian069]

You're talking in your sleep again, beenthere.

 

[mr2shim]

Nice try Clayton, the tax cuts were signed into law in 2001 & 2003.

So, it takes a decade for the "job creators" to use that tax break?

He's going to avoid that like the plague.

 

[beenthere]

He's going to avoid that like the plague.

Sorry mush brains, the economy was booming until 2007.

You dolts want it both ways, if the economy is slowing, it's because of the tax cuts. when asked if you're better off than four years ago, it has nothing to do with the tax cuts! LOL

 

[canndo]

Sorry mush brains, the economy was booming until 2007.

You dolts want it both ways, if the economy is slowing, it's because of the tax cuts. when asked if you're better off than four years ago, it has nothing to do with the tax cuts! LOL

Hey, HEY Beenthere! I understand we all smoke as we post here but you might want to ease up. Your logic is seriously flawed. The economy wasn't booming, the housing bubble was, people were spending borrowed money like it was earned, we were going deeper and deeper into a national debt - you remember? the one you all are now complaining about?

Notice that there were few jobs created in those few years as well. That isn't a boom in the traditional sense. A whole lot of people were using their houses as atm machines (including me - I managed to pay off my first wife out of one of my houses). At least I didn't buy an SUV so I could pay it off over 30 years or a vactation, or a boat. Wait a minute, damn, I just realized I am still paying that bitch by paying my loan.

 

[Fungus Gnat]

Sorry mush brains, the economy was booming until 2007.

Booming... Bush created 5 million jobs in 8 years counting government jobs. The economy lost those 5 million jobs, far more if there wasn't any stimulus. There have been 4.5million private sector jobs created in less than four years. 27 straight months of tepid job creation not job losses.

Remember there was a housing boom under Bush.

 

[beenthere]

Booming... Bush created 5 million jobs in 8 years counting government jobs. The economy lost those 5 million jobs, far more if there wasn't any stimulus. There have been 4.5million private sector jobs created in less than four years. 27 straight months of tepid job creation not job losses.

Remember there was a housing boom under Bush.

There is usually some type of economic boom in our economy, some much larger than others, like the dot.com boom during Clinton's terms.


As far as job growth is concerned, Bush's average unemployment rate of 5.2% is close to an ideal rate, in other words, one cannot expect monumental job growth with that low of a rate my friend.

 

[Fungus Gnat]

There is usually some type of economic boom in our economy, some much larger than others, like the dot.com boom during Clinton's terms.


As far as job growth is concerned, Bush's average unemployment rate of 5.2% is close to an ideal rate, in other words, one cannot expect monumental job growth with that low of a rate my friend.

Without the cuts to government jobs we'd be pretty close to there now....

 

[canndo]

There is usually some type of economic boom in our economy, some much larger than others, like the dot.com boom during Clinton's terms.


As far as job growth is concerned, Bush's average unemployment rate of 5.2% is close to an ideal rate, in other words, one cannot expect monumental job growth with that low of a rate my friend.

No? under Clinton people going to work for McDonalds were getting signing bonuses. People were coming out of retirement to work.

 

[beenthere]

No? under Clinton people going to work for McDonalds were getting signing bonuses. People were coming out of retirement to work.

LOL I told you the average unemployment rate during the Bush years and you come back with sinning bonuses and McDonalds? LOL

Without the cuts to government jobs we'd be pretty close to there now....

The government does not produce squat my friend, unlike private sector jobs, you have to pull revenue out of the tax payers to fund government jobs unless you want to keep adding to the deficit like your buddy Barack!

 

[canndo]

The government does not produce squat my friend, unlike private sector jobs, you have to pull revenue out of the tax payers to fund government jobs unless you want to keep adding to the deficit like your buddy Barack!

how many times do I have to say this before it is understood by the right? Government produced order. Order cannot be long produced by the private sector, now what is order worth to you beenthere? To my way of thinking I enjoy that order, I enjoy that because of government I can depend upon the predictablity our government provides.

 

[Fungus Gnat]

LOL I told you the average unemployment rate during the Bush years and you come back with sinning bonuses and McDonalds? LOL


The government does not produce squat my friend, unlike private sector jobs, you have to pull revenue out of the tax payers to fund government jobs unless you want to keep adding to the deficit like your buddy Barack!

Where were all these bleating conservatives when we were in time time of plenty and adding to the deficit under both Bush's and Reagan? When we might actually need deficit spending to get us out of our economy's lack of demand they show up. What happened to deficits don't matter?

 

[cannabineer]

To borrow UB grammar, they don't matter because Keynes. cn

 

[mr2shim]

how many times do I have to say this before it is understood by the right? Government produced order. Order cannot be long produced by the private sector, now what is order worth to you beenthere? To my way of thinking I enjoy that order, I enjoy that because of government I can depend upon the predictablity our government provides.

I really don't understand conservatives fascination with riding the private sectors dick. It must be a really good fuck. I would hate to see the day order is privatized. That would be a very bad day.

 

[canndo]

I really don't understand conservatives fascination with riding the private sectors dick. It must be a really good fuck. I would hate to see the day order is privatized. That would be a very bad day.

Order cannot be privatized for long. I understand why repubs love the private sector above all else, it meshes with their ideology, it confirms their narrative of the rugged individual who raised himself up by his own bootstraps, it plays to the masses of those who have forgotten what government did for them and remember now only that they must have been cowboys in the old west without benifit of law and order, without any of the governmental amenties that have helped them buy the boots those bootstraps were connected to.

And of course the money they get from their actions doesn't hurt either.

 

[mr2shim]

Order cannot be privatized for long. I understand why repubs love the private sector above all else, it meshes with their ideology, it confirms their narrative of the rugged individual who raised himself up by his own bootstraps, it plays to the masses of those who have forgotten what government did for them and remember now only that they must have been cowboys in the old west without benifit of law and order, without any of the governmental amenties that have helped them buy the boots those bootstraps were connected to.

And of course the money they get from their actions doesn't hurt either.

This is a bit off subject, but I believe 100% that if all the nutjobs in the south weren't allowed to vote Republicans would never win.

 

[canndo]

Where were all these bleating conservatives when we were in time time of plenty and adding to the deficit under both Bush's and Reagan? When we might actually need deficit spending to get us out of our economy's lack of demand they show up. What happened to deficits don't matter?

This is the major flaw in conservative behavior - someting Obama talks about now in his stump speeches.

Trouble with the economy? lower taxes
Government too big? reduce taxes
No jobs? reduce taxes


getting a surplus and putting that surplus to our debt? Reduce taxes, after all, it is the people's money.

 

[beenthere]

I really don't understand conservatives fascination with riding the private sectors dick.

I understand why repubs love the private sector above all else, it meshes with their ideology, it confirms their narrative of the rugged individual who raised himself up by his own bootstraps,
And of course the money they get from their actions doesn't hurt either.

The private sector is the economy!

If you don't get that, then tell us what the federal government makes or produces that adds to the economy!

 

[canndo]

This is a bit off subject, but I believe 100% that if all the nutjobs in the south weren't allowed to vote Republicans would never win.

They might, they are very capable of convincing others to vote against their own best interests. Recall that there was a time when the nutjobs in the south voted Dem and Repubs still won, I think it was Nixon who pioneered enlisting the south.