Proof That a Democracy Does Not Work

[ChesusRice]

Deprave,

You're one of the people here that I enjoy. I think that in some ways were similar, others not so much.


The vid you posted is kinda lame. You seriously gonna pin the words of 1 person to an entire political party? Cmon man, you're better than that. I look at the election process differently than you do. I think I'm more of a realist where you lean
towards idealism.

The reality is this. We all have 2 choices, Obama or Mittens. Yep, I like Johnson too, but in reality it's a wasted vote. Hell, I voted for Frank Zappa in 2 elections, I understand not being happy with either of the 2 possible winning candidates.

As I grew older it finally hit me: it is what it is
While I'm not really excited about either one, they ARE the possible winners. Not Johnson or Paul. Pick
the lesser of 2 evils and get on with life.

I would 'like' your post except i cannot find anything wrong with Johnson other than it Could be a wasted vote.
What i do find a problem though is Deprave who doesnt race bait puts up a video of some black people who are saying things are "going to be all right" and the white pride community seizes that and says the black people in the video are on welfare and Obama is going to give all our money to them

So Deprave
What are you trying to imply?

 

[mr2shim]

I would 'like' your post except i cannot find anything wrong with Johnson other than it Could be a wasted vote.
What i do find a problem though is Deprave who doesnt race bait puts up a video of some black people who are saying things are "going to be all right" and the white pride community seizes that and says the black people in the video are on welfare and Obama is going to give all our money to them

So Deprave
What are you trying to imply?

Honestly, I'm with you on this one. I don't really see a point to the video other than that.

 

[ChesusRice]

I posted a video of some people saying Obama is going to pay their mortage, relevant to the topic at hand, beenthere thinks Romney is going to give him a job and pay his gas an mortgage, the fact that they happen to be black has absolutely nothing to do with it and how you draw from that "Obama is going to give blacks all our money" makes you a racist, this whole train of though of yours is way out in left field and completely off topic. You have a serious problem, your a racist.

THEY NEVER SAiD THAT
THEY SAID THEY DONT HAVE TO WORRY NOW ABOUT PAYING THE MORTGAGE OR PUTTING GAS IN THEIR CAR
MEANING THEY DONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE ECONOMY

NEVER THOUGHT YOU WOULD BE A RACIST ASS HAT
NO WONDER YOU COCK SUCK RON PAUL SO MUCH

 

[deprave]

Deprave,

You're one of the people here that I enjoy. I think that in some ways were similar, others not so much.


The vid you posted is kinda lame. You seriously gonna pin the words of 1 person to an entire political party? Cmon man, you're better than that. I look at the election process differently than you do. I think I'm more of a realist where you lean
towards idealism.

The reality is this. We all have 2 choices, Obama or Mittens. Yep, I like Johnson too, but in reality it's a wasted vote. Hell, I voted for Frank Zappa in 2 elections, I understand not being happy with either of the 2 possible winning candidates.

As I grew older it finally hit me: it is what it is
While I'm not really excited about either one, they ARE the possible winners. Not Johnson or Paul. Pick
the lesser of 2 evils and get on with life.

"The vid you posted is kinda lame. You seriously going pin the words of 1 person to an entire political party?" Which video and words are you talking about exactly?

"While I'm not really excited about either one, they ARE the possible winners." This isn't March Madness Brackets, I am not trying to "win" a bet or an office pool, choosing either would be losing and I will never do it, its a false choice, not even the lesser of two evils. Forgive me I am very offended by apathetic people like you.

 

[mr2shim]

choosing either would be losing and I will never do it, its a false choice, not even the lesser of two evils. Forgive me I am very offended by apathetic people like you.

So don't vote and don't complain when mittens gets elected and destroys every effort to date for legalization. Then starts handing out tax cuts to the wealthiest and watch our economy crumble again.

 

[deprave]

The point of the video is that Republicans like Democrats think like "Obama/Romney is going to give em jobs and put gas in their car" kind of mentality, the fact SHE is black is completely irrelevant unless your some kind of racist like cheesus.

 

[mr2shim]

Where's the video where someone is saying Romney is going to put gas on their car? Did I miss it? To be honest with you, you should have picked a better video. The sole purpose of that video is to show black people at their worst "begging for handouts"

 

[deprave]

Where's the video where someone is saying Romney is going to put gas on their car? Did I miss it? To be honest with you, you should have picked a better video. The sole purpose of that video is to show black people at their worst "begging for handouts"

Pick one, any romney supporter, I only knew an obama one off the top of my head.

Romney has this magical jobs plan to get them all jobs that they know nothing about (essentially putting gas in their car and paying the mortage)


You guys get it now?

Its not literal


here ya go ...googled one up...

[video=youtube;IekshRWVY2s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IekshRWVY2s[/video]


fuck just turn on fox news..

 

[NoDrama]

A strange game, the only winning move is not to play....I learned this from a movie called War Games.[video=youtube;eeOHEU7Ykyg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeOHEU7Ykyg[/video]

 

[ink the world]

Deprave, huge difference between apathy and realism.

Kid and mom at a restaurant:

Kid: i want pizza
Mom: they dont have pizza, pick either a hot dog or a cheeseburger
Kid: i want pizza, not a dog or a burger
Mom: no pizza, you have a choice of the two, pick one
Kid having a tantrum now: I want pizza!!!
Mom getting pissed now: I understand, but that isn't on the menu
Kid yelling: I want pizza, I want pizza!!
Mom: screw this were going home, I've had enough

 

[deprave]

Deprave, huge difference between apathy and realism.

Kid and mom at a restaurant:

Kid: i want pizza
Mom: they dont have pizza, pick either a hot dog or a cheeseburger
Kid: i want pizza, not a dog or a burger
Mom: no pizza, you have a choice of the two, pick one
Kid having a tantrum now: I want pizza!!!
Mom getting pissed now: I understand, but that isn't on the menu
Kid yelling: I want pizza, I want pizza!!
Mom: screw this were going home, I've had enough

its not something so trivial, its your principals, ethics, ideals.... you don't have to compromise this like its choosing what you have for dinner. The way I see it, you might as well NOT vote if your not going to vote for your philosophy. Especially bad this election because voting for Obama or Romney is a vote completely against civil liberties more so than ever, completely against our own interest.

so yes it is apathy..both have commited in my view very serious crimes on humanity..they are more tied into the corporate system then ever before.

and you people....are just like....whatever GO BLUE TEAM! drinking a bud light with that hotdog....couldn't be more apathetic

 

[mr2shim]

I'm not sure I'm understanding your point deprave. You admit both candidates are terrible choices, yet you offer no advice on what to do other than waste your vote on an independent.

 

[deprave]

I'm not sure I'm understanding your point deprave. You admit both candidates are terrible choices, yet you offer no advice on what to do other than waste your vote on an independent.

We are discussing voting are we not?

These are the choices...Vote for Obomney....Vote for someone else...or don't vote...

Not sure what you expect me to offer as it pertains to voting, I am simply advising not to vote for Obomney, leaving 2 of 3 options.

I advise stick to ethics and philosophy as well as the issues and vote for the other candidates who will also be on the ballot, Gary Johnson or Jill Stein. GJ is the only one on the ballot in all 50 states, I also advise vote out every democrat and republican whenever possible because of the atrocious monstrous criminal organizations they have both become as evidenced by the video I posted on post #3 of this thread. Continue to vote this way for the rest of your life and hope one day your vote will actually count for something, if not...oh well..atleast you didn't comprimse your principals as if its some kind of sunday game of KENO.

 

[NoDrama]

I'm not sure I'm understanding your point deprave. You admit both candidates are terrible choices, yet you offer no advice on what to do other than waste your vote on an independent.

Your vote is wasted as soon as you step into the booth. Citizens don't elect presidents.

 

[ink the world]

its not something so trivial, its your principals, ethics, ideals.... you don't have to compromise this like its choosing what you have for dinner. The way I see it, you might as well NOT vote if your not going to vote for your philosophy. Especially bad this election because voting for Obama or Romney is a vote completely against civil liberties more so than ever, completely against our own interest.

so yes it is apathy..both have commited in my view very serious crimes on humanity..they are more tied into the corporate system then ever before.

and you people....are just like....whatever GO BLUE TEAM! drinking a bud light with that hotdog....couldn't be more apathetic

It's reality, I know you have that college kid mentality of how things should be. When you finally grow up you'll know the difference
I see your views as idealistic and full of shit. Choosing between the 2 viable options isn't apathy it's reality.

I'll continue to live in reality, and your Paul loving ass will continue to live in a fantasy world. Grow up kiddo

 

[deprave]

It's reality, I know you have that college kid mentality of how things should be. When you finally grow up you'll know the difference
I see your views as idealistic and full of shit. Choosing between the 2 viable options isn't apathy it's reality.

I'll continue to live in reality, and your Paul loving ass will continue to live in a fantasy world. Grow up kiddo

How does check a pariticuliar box put me in a fantasy world? I will never comprise my principals over so called "reality" of box checking. It's not like playing bingo, its not about "picking a winner".... your being apathetic and your ashamed to admit it. Stop being such a pussy, whos the real man? one that comprises his beliefs like a little bitch or one that stands for what he believes in when it comes to scribbling in fucking bubbles on a gd piece of fucking paper? You can't even do that? Scribble on a fucking piece of paper what you believe in? Fucking Pussy

 

[mr2shim]

We are discussing voting are we not?

These are the choices...Vote for Obomney....Vote for someone else...or don't vote...

Not sure what you expect me to offer as it pertains to voting, I am simply advising not to vote for Obomney, leaving 2 of 3 options.

I advise stick to ethics and philosophy as well as the issues and vote for the other candidates who will also be on the ballot, Gary Johnson or Jill Stein. GJ is the only one on the ballot in all 50 states, I also advise vote out every democrat and republican whenever possible because of the atrocious monstrous criminal organizations they have both become as evidenced by the video I posted on post #3 of this thread. Continue to vote this way for the rest of your life and hope one day your vote will actually count for something, if not...oh well..atleast you didn't comprimse your principals as if its some kind of sunday game of KENO.

While your idea may help you sleep at night, the reality of the situation is getting 5 or 6 people to vote independent isn't a raindrop in a lake. You want what's best yet you choose to be idealistic instead of realistic. I'm being realistic. We have two choices, one who will keep us on the slow path to recovery the other who will without a doubt turn back the clocks of recovery to January 2000. For you to think mittens is a better choice than Obama really shows you are in no mindset to seek the truth.

 

[deprave]

While your idea may help you sleep at night, the reality of the situation is getting 5 or 6 people to vote independent isn't a raindrop in a lake. You want what's best yet you choose to be idealistic instead of realistic. I'm being realistic. We have two choices, one who will keep us on the slow path to recovery the other who will without a doubt turn back the clocks of recovery to January 2000. For you to think mittens is a better choice than Obama really shows you are in no mindset to seek the truth.

Are you kidding me? The mindset to seek truth? Cheesus christ man I give up with you. You people are cowards...can't even scribble on a fucking buble what is right, they have you afraid over a fucking bubble scribbling exercise...We are doomed.

Obama and Romney are EQUALLY the wrong choice in absolutely every way and will yield exactly the same results as they both work for the same corporations and agree on absolutely everything. The only argument for Romney is Obama, only argument for Obama is romney, so fucking stupid.

 

[mr2shim]

Are you kidding me? The mindset to seek truth? Cheesus christ man I give up with you. You people are cowards...can't even scribble on a fucking buble what is right, they have you afraid over a fucking bubble scribbling exercise...We are doomed.

Obama and Romney are EQUALLY the wrong choice in absolutely every way and will yield exactly the same results as they both work for the same corporations and agree on absolutely everything. The only argument for Romney is Obama, only argument for Obama is romney, so fucking stupid.

LOL, I'm not afraid of writing down some politicians name. My point is you are wasting your time! You my as well actually not vote. It's no different. How do you not get that? If you're going to waste your time voting at least make it count.

 

[ChesusRice]

Are you kidding me? The mindset to seek truth? Cheesus christ man I give up with you. You people are cowards...can't even scribble on a fucking buble what is right, they have you afraid over a fucking bubble scribbling exercise...We are doomed.

Obama and Romney are EQUALLY the wrong choice in absolutely every way and will yield exactly the same results as they both work for the same corporations and agree on absolutely everything. The only argument for Romney is Obama, only argument for Obama is romney, so fucking stupid.

Cowards? Cowards?!!!!

What does courage have to do with picking between the lesser of two evils
If you dont make a realistic choice the choice will be made for you. YOU are the kid having a tantrum in the burger joint over not getting some pizza.