Obama Tries To Sway Marijuana Voters, Marijuana Voters Toss Him The Finger

thehole

New Member
If illegal aliens are taking your job I suggest you find a new field of work or get an education. But in reality, illegals mostly take the jobs no American would take.

Obamacare is bad, it isn't social enough. Single-payer health care will be the norm here within 10 years, if you don't like it opt out. I'm a small business owner and from what I've read it will benefit myself and thousands of other small businesses. If you have fewer then 25 employees and their average annual salary is 50k or less, the plan will pay for 35% of the costs the first year, over 50% the next year infinity(until single-payer is enacted). Businesses with fewer then 50 employees will be exempt from employer responcibilty which is the largest expense to businesses with Obamacare.
Overall it's a great deal for most small businesses. Not sure where you get your info from but you need new sources to say the least.

We left Great Britain mostly for freedom of religion.

Fed spending on roadways, bridges and other infrastructure can range from 10-60% by state. The reason there isn't more fed infrastructure and highway spending is because of the republicans blocking funding. Do your homework man.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
There is no helping some of these folks Uncle Buck. They just won't accept reality.
we may disagree on how to diagnose a plant's readiness, but we can surely both agree that fb360 is grossly misinformed about a lot of things.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Affordable healthcare, ARE YOU JOKING? As a small business owner, OBAMA just raped me and the rest of us with his Obamacare "TAX". Which my friend, happens to be highly unconstitutional.
i harbor a lot of doubt that you own a small business.

i harbor even more doubt that your small business is big enough to be affected in any way by the patient protection and affordable care act.

in fact, i'm going to repeat my claim that you are a liar. you don't own a small business at all.
 

stumpjumper

Well-Known Member
They are both fucking tools. Obama flat out lied to get our votes once and he'll do it again.

Romney on the other hand is very anti mmj and he has already admitted it. If he gets elected kiss it goodbye.
 

Mr.Marijuana420

Well-Known Member
They are both fucking tools. Obama flat out lied to get our votes once and he'll do it again.

Romney on the other hand is very anti mmj and he has already admitted it. If he gets elected kiss it goodbye.
how do u think most of them get in to office. how many of them follow through with their statements said before the election? i dnt think any. all u will ever base ur vote on is a web of lies and extremely biased media. one way or the other liberal or conservative, they only put things out that help thier cause . and thats what most ppl use as their basis to vote. we dnt know whats going on at that level, or let alone what kind of person where voting in. is it me or do they try to paint every candidate out perfect, and to never have made a mistake(unless there the apposing party, its the other way around then). its an impossiblity to have not made mistakes, id feel a hell of alot more comfortable trusting someone whose honest open and forth coming about there mistakes, than someone who acts like theyve made none, right? and so this is why i dnt get involved and dnt vote, yea jump on me for it idc. its all bullshit its all lies, and it brings more negativity than anything. all potitical "discussions"
ever turn to is bickering and arguing, and this is gonna help change our country in crisis? i dnt want that crap in my life clouding my mind. i choose not to be a part of it. thats all ill contribute to this thread. gonna be too many more threads like this in the coming month(s), cant wait till the elections over, and most of this shit recedes
 

Hydrotech364

Well-Known Member
I hate to beat a dead horse but there is more evidence supporting the position that this guy isn't even an Natural Born Citizen than there is proving the contrary.Only Puppet Masters can keep a guy in office in this situation.As a vet I resent his being entirely.Remember the failing to even put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem?Then there is the random destruction of the Bill of Rights by the writing new Bill's into Law.
 

Carne Seca

Well-Known Member
I hate to beat a dead horse but there is more evidence supporting the position that this guy isn't even an Natural Born Citizen than there is proving the contrary.Only Puppet Masters can keep a guy in office in this situation.As a vet I resent his being entirely.Remember the failing to even put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem?Then there is the random destruction of the Bill of Rights by the writing new Bill's into Law.
  1. He produced two documents proving he is an American Citizen including newspaper articles of his birth.
  2. He is the first president in U.S. history whose citizenship was in question.
  3. McCain was born in Panama and Romney's father was born in Mexico. No papers please requests. Not one.
  4. The only difference? Skin pigmentation.
  5. You don't put your hand over your "heart" (left lung) for the national anthem. You do that during the pledge of allegiance. A lot of people do it but it's not customary or mandatory. Seriously? This is the best you got?
  6. Bill of Rights? You mean Citizen's United that allows corporations to pour millions upon millions of dollars into election campaigns which corrupts the election process?
  7. Disenfranchising millions of people by enacting voter laws designed to block the vote. Hindering the right to vote. Talk about destruction of democracy.
  8. The war on women. Ask a woman how she feels about the latest political attacks on her health and health issues? Banning abortion. Enacting (or trying to enact) personhood laws that offer no provisions for rape, incest or the life of the mother. Defunding programs that help millions of women in cancer screening and other serious health related problems experienced by women.
  9. Marriage equality. An entire class of people has been relegated to second class citizenship because of who they happen to fall in love with.
  10. Racist immigration laws that profile minorities based on their skin color and language.


I can't believe this shit even has to be debunked this far into his presidency. But, you know how it is, there's a black man in the white house who is going to take all your stuff.
 

beenthere

New Member
Businesses with fewer then 50 employees will be exempt from employer responcibilty which is the largest expense to businesses with Obamacare.
Overall it's a great deal for most small businesses. Not sure where you get your info from but you need new sources to say the least.

A great deal for businesses huh, how can the ability of the federal government to force businesses to pay for employees health care be a great deal for the businesses?
Some of you brainwashed lefties are down right hilarious!



Fed spending on roadways, bridges and other infrastructure can range from 10-60% by state. The reason there isn't more fed infrastructure and highway spending is because of the republicans blocking funding. Do your homework man.

Federal transportation infrastructure is suppose to be funded by the federal excise tax we all pay at the pump, so show us where republicans are blocking funding.
Do your homework, man!
 

beenthere

New Member
  1. He is the first president in U.S. history whose citizenship was in question.
  2. McCain was born in Panama and Romney's father was born in Mexico. No papers please requests. Not one.
I can't believe this shit even has to be debunked this far into his presidency. But, you know how it is, there's a black man in the white house who is going to take all your stuff.
If I'm not mistaken, none of these presidential candidates who's citizenship was questioned were black, I'll do a little more research and get back to you.

Nope, not a single one was a black man!


Presidential Candidates who have had their Citizenship Questioned
· Christopher Schurmann 1896 Election
· Charles Evans Hughes 1916 Election
· George Romney 1968 Election
· Barry Goldwater 1964 Election
· Lowell Weicker 1980 Election
· Roger Calero 2004 and 2008
· John McCain 2000 and 2008
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
"Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education."

FDR
 

Mindmelted

Well-Known Member
there are 30+ DAs in oregon alone.

you think obama has time enough in his day to control them and state AGs in the other 14 or so states with medical cannabis?

i think medical cannabis falls pretty far on the back burner for this and any other administration.


But he can go golfing ALL the time.....:roll:
 

mr2shim

Well-Known Member
  1. He produced two documents proving he is an American Citizen including newspaper articles of his birth.
  2. He is the first president in U.S. history whose citizenship was in question.
  3. McCain was born in Panama and Romney's father was born in Mexico. No papers please requests. Not one.
  4. The only difference? Skin pigmentation.
  5. You don't put your hand over your "heart" (left lung) for the national anthem. You do that during the pledge of allegiance. A lot of people do it but it's not customary or mandatory. Seriously? This is the best you got?
  6. Bill of Rights? You mean Citizen's United that allows corporations to pour millions upon millions of dollars into election campaigns which corrupts the election process?
  7. Disenfranchising millions of people by enacting voter laws designed to block the vote. Hindering the right to vote. Talk about destruction of democracy.
  8. The war on women. Ask a woman how she feels about the latest political attacks on her health and health issues? Banning abortion. Enacting (or trying to enact) personhood laws that offer no provisions for rape, incest or the life of the mother. Defunding programs that help millions of women in cancer screening and other serious health related problems experienced by women.
  9. Marriage equality. An entire class of people has been relegated to second class citizenship because of who they happen to fall in love with.
  10. Racist immigration laws that profile minorities based on their skin color and language.


I can't believe this shit even has to be debunked this far into his presidency. But, you know how it is, there's a black man in the white house who is going to take all your stuff.


If I'm not mistaken, none of these presidential candidates who's citizenship was questioned were black, I'll do a little more research and get back to you.

Nope, not a single one was a black man!


Presidential Candidates who have had their Citizenship Questioned
· Christopher Schurmann 1896 Election
· Charles Evans Hughes 1916 Election
· George Romney 1968 Election
· Barry Goldwater 1964 Election
· Lowell Weicker 1980 Election
· Roger Calero 2004 and 2008
· John McCain 2000 and 2008
You missed what he said, he said Obama is the only PRESIDENT to ever have his citizenship questioned. Didn't say anything about presidential candidate. No, it's not basically the same thing. Questions a candidate is part of the process, questioning the PRESIDENT is just being an asshole. Given he's the first Black president, one would draw the conclusion that racism would spark this unheard of debacle.
 

OGEvilgenius

Well-Known Member
He's a politician, what do you expect man? They all lie, every single one of them. It's their job to lie to get votes. What do you want? Honesty? If you really expect that you're a fool. Doesn't matter, democrat or republican they both lie. No more or less than the other. If you are basing your vote on the fact that Obama lied, you should never vote.

They tell you what you want to hear to get votes. Simple as that. If you expect truthfulness you are never going to get it.
So you admit he lied about this, but claim he's not lying now. And you think voting for him is a good idea, despite the fact he's an obvious fascist. Who's the foolish one really?
 

Carne Seca

Well-Known Member
If I'm not mistaken, none of these presidential candidates who's citizenship was questioned were black, I'll do a little more research and get back to you.

Nope, not a single one was a black man!


Presidential Candidates who have had their Citizenship Questioned
· Christopher Schurmann 1896 Election
· Charles Evans Hughes 1916 Election
· George Romney 1968 Election
· Barry Goldwater 1964 Election
· Lowell Weicker 1980 Election
· Roger Calero 2004 and 2008
· John McCain 2000 and 2008
  1. He is the first president in U.S. history whose citizenship was in question.




Like I said.. arguing with a four year old... sheesh.
 

Mindmelted

Well-Known Member
Clinton spent his Presidency getting blowed, Obama spent his "blowing", Bush spent his Presidency blowing up people.....I HATE THEM ALL!
 

mr2shim

Well-Known Member
So you admit he lied about this, but claim he's not lying now. And you think voting for him is a good idea, despite the fact he's an obvious fascist. Who's the foolish one really?
Everyone who votes? I'd rather take my chances and vote for him than vote for mittens. It's not like his stand on marijuana would be the only reason I'd vote for him. How do I suppose to know if he's lying or not? I'm not him, I'm not in his cabinet. Nor am I mittens or in his cabinet. The shit they are telling you today, tomorrow and all the way up until Nov. 5th could all be a bunch of bullshit. You take a chance either way. I'd rather not take a chance with another Republican, they don't exactly have the best track record over the oh I dunno.. 30+ years?

Go ahead and say in the 3.5 years Obama has been in office the deficit went up 6 trillion. Well Shirley, it's not like he walked into candy land. It was a massive shit storm in January 2009. Really, what did you expect? A miracle. The man isn't God. Nobody could have this country in a better position coming from what happened in 08. You'd be a FOOL to think otherwise.
 

OGEvilgenius

Well-Known Member
incorrect.

there was no explosion of dispensaries under bush for a reason. there was indeed an explosion of dispensaries under obama after the holder announcement.

obama has directed AGs to make medical cannabis a low priority, some AGs have different political agendas. it happens. the recent crackdown has come at the hands of state AGs. that is incontrovertible fact.

if you are going to sit here and argue that romney would be better or would make no difference, explain my sig first.
I suggest laying off this weak point unless you have proof of it. And even if you have proof of it, if you ran the numbers (because Obama has been so aggressive in taking down law biding dispensaries) it's doubtful the %'s outweigh the drastic increase we've seen in dispensaries being forcibly closed.
 
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