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PSUAGRO.

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I'm very surprised at all white led bulb flowering performance at this point.........hmm led growing for the masses/ at the lowest entry point for a workable panel($250/blackstar) you could get 5-6 high quality led flood lights and have an effective micro grow which can be upgraded with more bulbs as the funds can handle. You've really stumbled onto something great here/ + rep to you Chronic for showing this actually works:)
 

Chronikool

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are each LED's bleaching when they get to close or just certain ones?
Yeah....its just certain ones, as some buds have their 'own' light a couple of inches above their lovely little heads....others not so. The floodlights arent bleaching at all....which will be the main source of lighting for my next grow.
 

Chronikool

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Not sure about the colour ones, but the whites have the 3000-3500k and 5500-6500k spectrum. I think you can get up to 100w floodlights....i might go for a few (3-4) 50w ones...with a few pc fans hanging above them...havent quite decided yet. :)
 

Chronikool

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I'm very surprised at all white led bulb flowering performance at this point.........hmm led growing for the masses/ at the lowest entry point for a workable panel($250/blackstar) you could get 5-6 high quality led flood lights and have an effective micro grow which can be upgraded with more bulbs as the funds can handle. You've really stumbled onto something great here/ + rep to you Chronic for showing this actually works:)
I guess instead of the 'sometimes usual' supplemental CFL lights that growers use...A couple of household LED bulbs could also do the job with the panels (or at seedling stage), they are readily available wherever crappy chinese-ezy are the order of the day.... :)
 

PetFlora

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You know I support this, but how much $$$ have you invested?

I bought a 4 bulb vanity light fixture from Lowes (~$20). I use cool & warm cfls to supplement my 2 y/o UFO 90, which is 90%+ red (~70 watts- $350). Today you can get much better quality leds and more watts for that money, at least with a DIY kit.

As the cfls burn out I will replace them with screw in leds Warm and Cool white LEDs are available in big box stores, but I want Neutral Whites. You can see your seedlings leaning into the cool blue bulbs due to blending ratios being off
 

Chronikool

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You know I support this, but how much $$$ have you invested?

I bought a 4 bulb vanity light fixture from Lowes (~$20). I use cool & warm cfls to supplement my 2 y/o UFO 90, which is 90%+ red (~70 watts- $350). Today you can get much better quality leds and more watts for that money, at least with a DIY kit.

As the cfls burn out I will replace them with screw in leds Warm and Cool white LEDs are available in big box stores, but I want Neutral Whites. You can see your seedlings leaning into the cool blue bulbs due to blending ratios being off
Thats a good point i should have included. So the 7w's cost $6 each. (i dont know what the equivalent of those would be each in terms of CFL equivalents) there are 12 of them. ($72) 10w floodlights were $14 each. ($28 ) 30w floodlight was $46. The downlights (which were just annoying) were $16 each (8 of them - $128 ) oh and a couple of seedling stage lights $5 each ($10) so for flowering and veg that is $284. All lights are still going.

So Neutral whites you think would take care of flowering and veg?

Yeah, i think the seedlings didnt really have a choice where to bend as that was the only light source at that stage.

Thanks for the rep by the way. :)
 

Chronikool

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Im no expert on panels as i have never used one. I have read some terrible things about the spectra panels but anyways:

1) How high are they above your plants?

2) How old are your plants?

Ummmm yeah....maybe ask about? Sorry im not much help. :)
 

Amaximus

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Coll beans, bro. +rep for that link. I didn't even know I needed/wanted these until you linked them!

I have two pg260 and 4specctra 180 in a 5'x9' room why leaves dieind
Oh, No! The return of the spectras! I guess you were the guy that bought them all on eBay?
 

oberg110

Active Member
yea I'm that guy.The pro grows are cooking em too.I've tried dif. heights now the're at 28" above and about 4 weeks into flowering the tips turn brown then spreads till the whole leaf is crispy.They curl up and down and its random of which leaves die.not just top or bottom.They are in sunshine #4.fox farms food.6.8 ph.been giving em calmag and iron lately still death.I'm giving up.Going back to hps.only problem I had with those was paying the power bill
 

Chronikool

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Plants before final Cut:

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Final Harvest weights
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28.5 grams for plant A.

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35 grams for Plant B.

Stalks removed dried and cured. (2.2 ounces)

Quite happy with the result from 107w of light (and 1 fan)

Look out for my PC grow coming soon...Thanks for gawking! :)
 

IlovePlants

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I have two pg260 and 4specctra 180 in a 5'x9' room why
leaves dieind
Back the spectras off, make sure that they are not angled directly down,add warm white light that faces directly down, and for Sagan's sake make sure that your plants aren't sitting still under the lights. I found the more leaf movement I had, the less burning occured. I have 435 watts of spectra, 165 watts of warm white lighting, and almost 100 watts of fans. These 700 watts cover a 5x6 area, so I'm satisfied. This lighting along, with mainlining and my "lean to" approach, has vastly increased my yields under spectras. Keep the lights at the same height through out flowering, and put the plants in when they are about 2.5' from the lights if they are 1.5-2x stretch.

Generally speaking red and blue light is highly efficient, and even the steepest gradient will still allow absorption. Chloroplasts containing the highest amounts of chlorophyll a and b are found closest to the surface of the leaf, the light is absorbed immediately. Too much excess red and especially blue *during flowering* will "over clock" the plant. She will respond by dropping leaves, starting mild fade, accelerated aging, and orange burns on the foliage.

He sold me the lights right as all the threads were finishing saying it was a terrible. He sold it to me as "green house supplementation", with a moderate discount. Having an X of blue rather than attempting to play sudoku with proper spectrum was the great down fall of the light, in my opinion. One part of the plant received tons of red, and another part would receive lots of white and blue light. The plants get confused about what the fuck is going on and eventually they just commit suicide. They all seemed to finish like 15 days early, compared to now, but the yield was pitiful.

I keep one 145watt spectra in a 30"x70" room about 3 feet above the canopy in a veg room. It works wonders.

Do not give up on LED lights, do give up on LED hype! Learn what and when your plants want it, and you will do well.

Also the white lighting only needs to be on 11 hours of the day, the first and last half hour can just be the red blue. Plants are used to this from nature and they really like it. Sunrise, sunset, and 200 plus days of no regrets.
Peace,
ILovePlants
P.S. Out of State until the end of the month, so no pictures of the set up unfortunately. So here's a picture of my favorite harsh led bred baby. She currently flowers about 16" from the spectra. Breeding helps with adaptation if you know what you are looking for. Day 25 in 12.5/11.5 in this picture.
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