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Joseph Smith says

ChesusRice

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Joseph Smith stated the following:
"For instance, the descendants of Cain cannot cast off their skin of blackness, at once, and immediately, although every soul of them should repent, obey the Gospel, and do right from this day forward. . . . Cain and his posterity must wear the mark, which God put upon them; and his white friends may wash the race of Cain with fuller’s soap every day, they cannot wash away God’s mark; The Lamanites, through transgression, became a loathsome, ignorant and filthy people, and were cursed with a skin of darkness � yet, they have the promise, if they will believe, and work righteousness, that not many generations shall pass away before they shall become a white and delightsome people; but it will take some time to accomplish this at best"​
 

ChesusRice

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Conference Reports, CR April 1939, Second Day-Morning Meeting: Elder George F. Richards
"The negro is an unfortunate man. He has been given a black skin....But that is as nothing compared with that greater handicap that he is not permitted to receive the Priesthood and the ordinances of the temple, necessary to prepare men and women to enter into and enjoy a fulness of glory in the celestial kingdom....What is the reason for this condition, we ask, and I find it to my satisfaction to think that as spirit children of our Eternal Father they were not valiant in the fight. We are told that Michael and his angels fought, and we understand that we stood with Christ our Lord, on the platform, "Father, thy will be done, and the glory be thine forever." I cannot conceive our Father consigning his children to a condition such as that of the negro race, if they had been valiant in the spirit world in that war in heaven. Neither could they have been a part of those who rebelled and were cast down, for the latter had not the privilege of tabernacling in the flesh. Somewhere along the line were these spirits, indifferent perhaps, and possibly neutral in the war. We have no definite knowledge concerning this. But I learn this lesson from it, brethren and sisters, and I believe we all should, that it does not pay in religious matters, matters that pertain to our eternal salvation, to be indifferent, neutral, or lukewarm."
 

ChesusRice

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“You must not think, from what I say, that I am opposed to slavery. No! The negro is damned, and is to serve his master till God chooses to remove the curse of Ham.”

- Prophet Brigham Young, New York Herald, May 4, 1855, as cited in Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, Spring 1973, p. 56
 

ChesusRice

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“Cain slew his brother.... and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and tehn another curse is pronounced upon the same race � that they should be the ‘servant of servants,’ and they will be, until that curse is removed; and the Abolitionists cannot help it, nor in the least alter that decree. How long is that race to endure the dreadful curse that is upon them? That curse will remain upon them, and they never can hold the Priesthood or share in it until all the other descendants of Adam have received the promises and enjoyed the blessings of the Priesthood and the keys thereof. Until the last ones of the residue of Adam’s children are brought up to that favorable position, the children of Cain cannot receive the first ordinances of the Priesthood. They were the first that were cursed, and they will be the last from whom the curse will be removed. When the residue of the family of Adam come up and receive their blessings, then the curse will be removed from the seed of Cain, and they will receive blessings in like proportion.”

- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 7, pp. 290-291; online at http://journals.mormonfundamentalism....
 

ChesusRice

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OK DA calm down, no need to be all unsupportive of his choice of religion . . .. .
I started to think of it after all the times Rubio mentioned god in his speech and remembered Rubio's family illegally came here from Cuba (look it up)

Most Cubans have black blood in them. Mitt Romneys church of which he is a Bishop still teaches that blacks are inferior
 

ink the world

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OK DA calm down, no need to be all unsupportive of his choice of religion . . .. .
I have no idea what or who DA is, I assume you're alluding to my post.

If you read through my postings here you'll see I feel that way about ALL organized religion, not just Mormonism. I should have been clearer I suppose
 

deprave

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Joseph Smith stated the following:
"For instance, the descendants of Cain cannot cast off their skin of blackness, at once, and immediately, although every soul of them should repent, obey the Gospel, and do right from this day forward. . . . Cain and his posterity must wear the mark, which God put upon them; and his white friends may wash the race of Cain with fuller’s soap every day, they cannot wash away God’s mark; The Lamanites, through transgression, became a loathsome, ignorant and filthy people, and were cursed with a skin of darkness � yet, they have the promise, if they will believe, and work righteousness, that not many generations shall pass away before they shall become a white and delightsome people; but it will take some time to accomplish this at best"​
you obviously have no idea what your talking about if this is the best dirt you came up with about Joseph Smith, guy was a raving lunatic.
 

desert dude

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Joseph Smith stated the following:
"For instance, the descendants of Cain cannot cast off their skin of blackness, at once, and immediately, although every soul of them should repent, obey the Gospel, and do right from this day forward. . . . Cain and his posterity must wear the mark, which God put upon them; and his white friends may wash the race of Cain with fuller’s soap every day, they cannot wash away God’s mark; The Lamanites, through transgression, became a loathsome, ignorant and filthy people, and were cursed with a skin of darkness � yet, they have the promise, if they will believe, and work righteousness, that not many generations shall pass away before they shall become a white and delightsome people; but it will take some time to accomplish this at best"​
Do you know any Mormons, Chesus?
 

kelly4

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I know a mormon. Well, I knew a mormon. He moved to our town in 8th grade and I graduated with him. A straightlaced asshole who would drink sometimes. I also had a buddy who was a Jahovas Witness. Went to church 4 times a week until high school. Then started drinking and smoking weed. The point of this story is......................who gives a shit?!?!





















RON PAUL-2016!
 

canndo

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I can't do it, I can't hold a man accountable for the statements in the book that is the basis of his religion. I can't see this as being much different than Holding Obama up because a reverend of his church damned America. I figure all of this religious stuff when it involves political actors is too far out to have any bearing.
 

ChesusRice

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I can't do it, I can't hold a man accountable for the statements in the book that is the basis of his religion. I can't see this as being much different than Holding Obama up because a reverend of his church damned America. I figure all of this religious stuff when it involves political actors is too far out to have any bearing.
is Obama a bishop in his church?
 

londonfog

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I can't do it, I can't hold a man accountable for the statements in the book that is the basis of his religion. I can't see this as being much different than Holding Obama up because a reverend of his church damned America. I figure all of this religious stuff when it involves political actors is too far out to have any bearing.
again did you hear the whole sermon of Rev. or are you just going by the sound bite.
 

canndo

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is Obama a bishop in his church?

No, and I even agree with your sentiment. You and I are about the business of comparisons between what the right said, and what the right says. We see the shear hypocrsy of their statements and their actions but I can't see any good coming out of attacks on religion even though I am aware that the right will often look for random statements in the quaran with which to brand their supposed adversaries.
 
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