Ecstasy

[racerboy71]

Not trying to brag, but when I got that gram (the rock I posted) he had probably a 20+gram hunk of the moon in the ziplock. I may have just been seeing a bunch of 5-10g rocks but idk... He let me lick a 8g rock, I was rollin before I could walk back to my car from in his house.

well, not trying to suck on mreducks balls, but the duck knows what he's talking about..

 

[MrEDuck]

well, not trying to suck on mreducks balls, but the duck knows what he's talking about..

That's good cause I wouldn't let you. Wrong gender and all
It's possible, I know some labs do kilo scale batches or higher. We ran a few reactors that handled batch sizes of around 250g. So a 20g rock out of kilo sized batch is reasonable. There's also methods to cut where you can get bigger rocks from what I've heard. I'm no expert on reducing the purity of drugs. It's kinda antithetical to everything I believe in.

 

[Junior Grow]

Molly is twenty times better than E. If you get the real deal. E is normally cut with something normally Amphetamines, Ketamine, Meth, Cocaine ect.
If your going to do MDMA stick with Molly.

I fucking love molly. Holy shit. Best drug.
Marijuana's not a drug

 

[MrEDuck]

Marijuana is definetly drug, it's just a relatively benign one.

 

[shrigpiece]

i have had some really, really, really good pills years ago.. they were supposed to be cut with k, and were so effin trippy it wasn't even funny.. one of the best nights of my life..
what they were really cut with idk, but my god...

Mate i miss those, tried the modern pills last year and yep. Wtf are they? Did nought for me anyways. I used to love the rollin trips.

 

[racerboy71]

Mate i miss those, tried the modern pills last year and yep. Wtf are they? Did nought for me anyways. I used to love the rollin trips.

yah, i haven't done a pill in a good decade, but back in the 90's all of the pills i ever had, which was more than a few, were always really good... don't recall ever having a bunk pill..
i hear all the stories of pills today not even being mdma, but rather some crazy rc, which is a shame as no rc can touch mdma imo..

 

[MrEDuck]

Unfortunately drugs aren't regulated so people can put whatever the fuck kinda poisons or mimics they want in them. Buy test kits. They're your best defense against this bullshit.

 

[VLRD.Kush]

A LOT more people are getting RCs now instead of MDMA. They have no idea, its terrible. I was at a party recently and everyone was "rolling", but I tested the batch of whatever the fuck and it was definitely not MDxx. I felt bad

 

[racerboy71]

Unfortunately drugs aren't regulated so people can put whatever the fuck kinda poisons or mimics they want in them. Buy test kits. They're your best defense against this bullshit.

yah, my sister was just over today .. she's a nurse in the ghetto closest to me.. she was telling me that there has been a lot of kids coming in od'ing on heroin again..
my first thought was that someone is probably tampering with the smack again.. a few years ago someone was cutting it with fentynal(Sp?) and tons of people were dying as a result..

this is why i think all drugs should be legalized .. it would simply cut down on deaths big time imho..

 

[MrEDuck]

yah, my sister was just over today .. she's a nurse in the ghetto closest to me.. she was telling me that there has been a lot of kids coming in od'ing on heroin again..
my first thought was that someone is probably tampering with the smack again.. a few years ago someone was cutting it with fentynal(Sp?) and tons of people were dying as a result..

this is why i think all drugs should be legalized .. it would simply cut down on deaths big time imho..

If its where I'm thinking of (I PMed you) it's been a bad summer, but it doesn't look to be fentanyl (thank god). My guess is a new crew is on the scene and they haven't mastered the art of cutting so they're selling a heterogenous product. Meaning some bags are shit and some are pretty much raw. A fent outbreak wouldn't be so localized. I think this generation of dealers. Reds to die off before we see fent again. A dead customer is good for business, but dead customers is bad. There's been two major fent outbreaks, the first was Tango and Cash in NYC in the early 90s and then the nationwide one in the mid aughts. I'd say we have about 5 years before there's another big one. The high level players learn there lesson. What use is selling dope if all the junkies are dead? But the next gen will get that bright idea and think they can cut it so people won't die like crazy.
And yes, this is why drugs shouldn't be illegal. As long as drugs are treated as a legal problem and not a medical one we'll have to endure these tragedies.

 

[racerboy71]

If its where I'm thinking of (I PMed you) it's been a bad summer, but it doesn't look to be fentanyl (thank god). My guess is a new crew is on the scene and they haven't mastered the art of cutting so they're selling a heterogenous product. Meaning some bags are shit and some are pretty much raw. A fent outbreak wouldn't be so localized. I think this generation of dealers. Reds to die off before we see fent again. A dead customer is good for business, but dead customers is bad. There's been two major fent outbreaks, the first was Tango and Cash in NYC in the early 90s and then the nationwide one in the mid aughts. I'd say we have about 5 years before there's another big one. The high level players learn there lesson. What use is selling dope if all the junkies are dead? But the next gen will get that bright idea and think they can cut it so people won't die like crazy.
And yes, this is why drugs shouldn't be illegal. As long as drugs are treated as a legal problem and not a medical one we'll have to endure these tragedies.

yes, thankfully i had been clean for a year or two before that big fent outbreak mreduck.. but of course it was huge news around here.. they even had notices at the meth clinic as to what stamps to avoid..
the crazy thing is i know a lot of people look for w/e stamp has people dropping out as they think it's good dope, not that it's cut with something that very well may kill them...
it's a pretty sick world out there for sure, and i can't express how glad i am to be off of that roller coaster..

 

[MrEDuck]

It's a sick fucking world. Fentanyl isn't even that enjoyable. I know I've always been pissed whenever I've gotten it. The buzz sucks and it wears off so fast you end up blasting it compulsively. Before you know it it's 7am, you haven't had any rest and you've blown through three days worth of dope.
I'm real glad I was always able to put the stuff down.
There has to be a better way to deal with the fact that drugs exist and are problematic for humanity. Clearly making it a legal issue isn't working. So many people are dying wether from ODs or murders or just being caught in the cross fire. Surely there's a better way.

 

[racerboy71]

It's a sick fucking world. Fentanyl isn't even that enjoyable. I know I've always been pissed whenever I've gotten it. The buzz sucks and it wears off so fast you end up blasting it compulsively. Before you know it it's 7am, you haven't had any rest and you've blown through three days worth of dope.
I'm real glad I was always able to put the stuff down.
There has to be a better way to deal with the fact that drugs exist and are problematic for humanity. Clearly making it a legal issue isn't working. So many people are dying wether from ODs or murders or just being caught in the cross fire. Surely there's a better way.

of course i agree mre.. idk what the answer is, but prohibition surely isn't the answer imho.. i think a lot of people are drawn to drugs simply for the rush knowing that they're illegal.. some people simply love to be bad boys so to speak..

i also don't think that more people would use if drugs were legal.. if you could run to cvs and get crack, would you really try it if you've never tried it before?? of course not i like to think..
locking people up does't do dick all either.. i've been caught up in buy and busts, and as soon as we were released, there must have been 10 people all jumping on the bus to go score again.. idk, i really don't see any real answer for sure..

 

[Padawanbater2]

Is 'cutting' a product a nicer way of saying the dealer wants to screw you out of more of your money for less of the product?

You have a big pile of pure coke, then the douchebag decides it'll increase the profit if he adds something non toxic that can't be detected when you use it, but reduces the purity, and sells that? Sometimes the retards can't differentiate between 'TOXIC' and 'NON TOXIC' or what? Why would they use a substance known to harm people to cut a drug with?

 

[racerboy71]

Is 'cutting' a product a nicer way of saying the dealer wants to screw you out of more of your money for less of the product?

You have a big pile of pure coke, then the douchebag decides it'll increase the profit if he adds something non toxic that can't be detected when you use it, but reduces the purity, and sells that? Sometimes the retards can't differentiate between 'TOXIC' and 'NON TOXIC' or what? Why would they use a substance known to harm people to cut a drug with?

yes padawan, you've got the idea.. i would think it a pretty safe bet to say that pretty much every drug that you can get on the street has been cut with one thing or another...

i took this clip from erowid..
The cutting or diluting agent used for cocaine again varies with the individual and the substance that is readily available to that individual. Some of the common cutting agents for cocaine are:

Procaine which is a synthetic preparation in powder form used as a local anesthetic; Mannite, a sugar substance used as a laxative and produced in Italy; Menita, a milk sugar from Mexico and South America; Lactose or Dextrose, a white powdered milk sugar used as a baby food supplement and purchased readily in the United States in any drug store; Powdered methamphetamine also known as speed; Epsom salts; Quinine used to treat leg cramps and malaria; Powder vitamins purchased in health food stores and just about any soluble powder that is not disruptive to the body can be used, such as baking soda, powdered sugar, powdered milk, starch, etc

here's the link if anyone wants to read more..http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/psychedelicchemistry/chapter8.html

as far as why someone would want to cut drugs with a drug that can and does in fact kill people, that's way beyond my grasp of understanding..

 

[MrEDuck]

Is 'cutting' a product a nicer way of saying the dealer wants to screw you out of more of your money for less of the product?

You have a big pile of pure coke, then the douchebag decides it'll increase the profit if he adds something non toxic that can't be detected when you use it, but reduces the purity, and sells that? Sometimes the retards can't differentiate between 'TOXIC' and 'NON TOXIC' or what? Why would they use a substance known to harm people to cut a drug with?

I don't think cutting is a very nice term at all. And yes it's about fucking the customer as hard as you can without scaring them off.
Sometimes you get lucky and it's just inert bulking agents like lactose or mannitol. Sometimes it's flesh eating veterinary deworming agents in the case of cocaine (makes the rush better supposedly). Or another synergistic compound like antihistamines or other downers with opioids (slightly water soluble benzos like lorazepam or an antihistamine like Benedryl, a very common heroin cut). And sometimes it's some some household cleaner or rat poison because it's all the guy has in his house that looks at all similar to the drug he's selling and he's too lazy to go to the store and buy something relatively harmless and he's certainly not selling that substance without diluting it to make more money.
I've heard of people filling little vials most of the way with shit like Tide crystals and putting a little layer of coke on top, so you can take off the cap, put your finger on it and invert it to get a taste. It tastes like good coke. But there isn't even a line of real coke in the vial.
It is a vile despicable practice. Or par for course in the drug game.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Wow fellas, I'm glad I'm not a part of that scene. Sounds like a bunch of dudes who will stab you in the back without breaking a sweat. I've smoked with most of my connects, sat in their room or on the porch, usually couldn't be friendlier. Night and day I guess...

That's a great reason prohibition should outright end completely. People will do the drugs regardless, do you really want a dude to snort TIDE and end up in an ER instead?

I think there's far too much money and politics involved in that goal, it will never happen in our lifetimes.

 

[Sdwbrib]

The stem is the crack pipe. You don't use a true pipe to smoke crack, the most common thing used is a small glass tube that a little novelty rose that they sell in bodegas and convenience stores in areas where crack is common with a piece of a metal scrubber like Chore Boy stuffed in to keep you from inhaling the crack. Everytime you run out of rock you use something to push the the chore boy to the other end of the stem to gather up the residue from the crack that deposited on it. Usually you then break the stem when you come down and hate yourself because you smoked crack again and you feel like shit and you have no money and god knows what else went wrong. And breaking your stem because that will stop you from smoking crack again. Well, let me rephrase that, that's what lucky crackheads get. Those unfortunate crackheads who don't have the dollar a stem costs typically usethe radio antenna broken off a car, or a motorcycle spark plug. Or whatever else they can dig up. The shorter the stem the hotter the part in your mouth gets, hence the burnt lips. Which is the number one physical trait of the crack/meth smoker. Well one of the many, but one of the most damning because it's really hard to explain them away.
Crackheads are funny people.
The more you know.

....can you still buy the roses in glass? They disappeared when I lived in FL, then I moved. Looked 1 time upon return to KY, about 7 yrs ago. Couldn't find em and wisely choose not to look since lol.

 

[MrEDuck]

I don't know, but I know that people are still smoking crack so if they aren't available they've found somethig to use.

 

[WayBaked]

....can you still buy the roses in glass? They disappeared when I lived in FL, then I moved. Looked 1 time upon return to KY, about 7 yrs ago. Couldn't find em and wisely choose not to look since lol.

I managed a handful of smoke shops in California and in most areas we carried glass roses, but in a lot of the shops we carried straight up meth pipes too, you just had to know how to ask for them.