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lifegoesonbrah

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Maybe they meant his future great great great great great great great great grand child.

Ron Paul (the 2nd) 3012?

If you think this is the end, you are sadly mistaken. We have a belief system that is worth fighting for. This sad excuse for a working republican convention only encourages us to keep fighting.
 

Harrekin

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If you think this is the end, you are sadly mistaken. We have a belief system that is worth fighting for. This sad excuse for a working republican convention only encourages us to keep fighting.
Ron Paul is a fucking tool. Ron Paul isn't freedom, Ron Paul gets you raped on the State level rather than the Federal one.

A conservative libertarian pro-lifer?

*facepalm*
 

Canna Sylvan

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If you think this is the end, you are sadly mistaken. We have a belief system that is worth fighting for. This sad excuse for a working republican convention only encourages us to keep fighting.
Did Beardo get himself banned because he couldn't imagine life here without Ron Paul?

Someone needs to tell him that so he comes back.
 

lifegoesonbrah

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Ron Paul is a fucking tool. Ron Paul isn't freedom, Ron Paul gets you raped on the State level rather than the Federal one.

A conservative libertarian pro-lifer?

*facepalm*
So we shouldn't follow the constitution which was written by our libertarian founding fathers then? A true libertarian doesn't believe in strong federal government, as it is tyrannical and places control in the hands of a few...
 

Canna Sylvan

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Canna Sylvan

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If you believe in the constitution then you are for less federal government which gives more power to the states.
The Constitution has some Libertarian ideas, it's not Libertarian. That's one of the things I don't like about it. The smallest government possible is Libertarian, not just spread the authoritarianism amongst 50 governments.

How Libertarian is slavery? If it was originally so Libertarian, it wouldn't needed that amended out.

One of the biggest arguements is our current society couldn't write a proper Constitution to protect our "rights." Yet despite immoral slavery, it protected rights? Only if you weren't a slave? Or maybe the writers were clairvoyant?
 

lifegoesonbrah

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The Constitution has some Libertarian ideas, it's not Libertarian. That's one of the things I don't like about it. The smallest government possible is Libertarian, not just spread the authoritarianism amongst 50 governments.

How Libertarian is slavery? If it was originally so Libertarian, it wouldn't needed that amended out.

One of the biggest arguements is our current society couldn't write a proper Constitution to protect our "rights." Yet despite immoral slavery, it protected rights? Only if you weren't a slave? Or maybe the writers were clairvoyant?
Slavery not being forbidden by the constitution is a good example of what happens when you compromise principles. You are right, the constitution isn;t libertarian in itself, as it outlines a government. The intention of the constitution though, was to devise a limited government that could provide the most freedom while maintaining some structure of federal government for military protection and international issues. I believe that freedom is allowed more through states because it is closer to the people and allows for diversification of policies.
 

Harrekin

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Slavery not being forbidden by the constitution is a good example of what happens when you compromise principles. You are right, the constitution isn;t libertarian in itself, as it outlines a government. The intention of the constitution though, was to devise a limited government that could provide the most freedom while maintaining some structure of federal government for military protection and international issues. I believe that freedom is allowed more through states because it is closer to the people and allows for diversification of policies.
Nope, pretty sure it's the old would you rather AIDS or cancer argument. Ron Paul should be called Gone Paul, cos "he's OUTTA there!"
 

Harrekin

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Yes they both believe in States rights, difference is GJ follows a pragmatic route towards achieving realistic libertarian policies.

Gone Paul just spouts the same ideological shite with no budging space for practicality.
 
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