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W Dragon

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Oh yeah I took the jump and bought canna coco and canna a + b, gonna see what the difference is between canna and the coco run I did before.
The last time I ran coco I wasn't impressed, picked up plagron coco and had to set the ph on it by running a shit load of ph'd water through all the pots and I was using mixed nutes canadian express, ionic and dutch masters I believe, It all went well and yielded well but just didn't seem as easy as the soil running along side it, don't get me wrong wasn't any hassle but the the soil plants just seemed to look that bit better and also taste better at the end.
Hopefully this run will go better using the same brand items and with all you guys having experience with the stuff should I run in to any probs not that I see any arising.
 

supersillybilly

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Canna a +b has calmag in it. Blues r fine with just a/b. The psyco and exo defo needs lots of calmag in flower. U will need to support them livers
 

W Dragon

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Canna a +b has calmag in it. Blues r fine with just a/b. The psyco and exo defo needs lots of calmag in flower. U will need to support them livers
You sure your not running the psycho or exo bill thinking it's the livers/blues? The livers/blues needs cal/mag added in soil with hard water mate, I've run it with cal/mag and without and it deffo needs the extra cal/mag and like I said mate that's in soil using tap water.
 

W Dragon

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Hadn't thought of that mate, I bet your waters much better than ours, ours will call you names and crack ya teeth it's that hard lol
 

cheddar1985

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Oh yeah I took the jump and bought canna coco and canna a + b, gonna see what the difference is between canna and the coco run I did before.
The last time I ran coco I wasn't impressed, picked up plagron coco and had to set the ph on it by running a shit load of ph'd water through all the pots and I was using mixed nutes canadian express, ionic and dutch masters I believe, It all went well and yielded well but just didn't seem as easy as the soil running along side it, don't get me wrong wasn't any hassle but the the soil plants just seemed to look that bit better and also taste better at the end.
Hopefully this run will go better using the same brand items and with all you guys having experience with the stuff should I run in to any probs not that I see any arising.
canna cocco a+b is ment to be used for hard water mate youll find it piss easy trust me i av neva ph fuck all and yeild speaks for itself bro they neva get any defs just stick to wot it says on the tin and you ll find it easy as fuck id even go as far as sayin throw your ph ppm meters away youll not need it!! ;-)
 

W Dragon

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canna cocco a+b is ment to be used for hard water mate youll find it piss easy trust me i av neva ph fuck all and yeild speaks for itself bro they neva get any defs just stick to wot it says on the tin and you ll find it easy as fuck id even go as far as sayin throw your ph ppm meters away youll not need it!! ;-)
Lets hope ya right mate, I've had to ph everything from day1 so would be nice not to have to worry about it in the future, when I start I'll check the ph once the nutes start to be added and throw the numbers up on here.
On the last attempt with it using the other coco and nutes and the ph when the nute mix was at it's strongest would settle at about 6 and I'd vary it between 5.5 and 6 so was pretty easy pretty much the same as growing in soil.
I've got a bluelab truncheon meter but never used it and don't plan on starting either, I find varying the ph normally takes care of everything and hasn't failed me yet, we'll soon see mate I'm thinking of adding some organics along the way with a low feeding of guano throughout flower and see how that goes with ripen at the end, I'll have some cuts going into soil so will be a proper side by side for both yield and taste fingers crossed the coco smashes it, I could do with the extra bud aslong as it tastes alright at the end, the taste vs yield will be the true test for this run aslong as all goes well.
 

cheddar1985

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Lets hope ya right mate, I've had to ph everything from day1 so would be nice not to have to worry about it in the future, when I start I'll check the ph once the nutes start to be added and throw the numbers up on here.
On the last attempt with it using the other coco and nutes and the ph when the nute mix was at it's strongest would settle at about 6 and I'd vary it between 5.5 and 6 so was pretty easy pretty much the same as growing in soil.
I've got a bluelab truncheon meter but never used it and don't plan on starting either, I find varying the ph normally takes care of everything and hasn't failed me yet, we'll soon see mate I'm thinking of adding some organics along the way with a low feeding of guano throughout flower and see how that goes with ripen at the end, I'll have some cuts going into soil so will be a proper side by side for both yield and taste fingers crossed the coco smashes it, I could do with the extra bud aslong as it tastes alright at the end, the taste vs yield will be the true test for this run aslong as all goes well.
yh mate just ditch the ph pen i would nt even entertain pickin the fucker up im that cofident without 1 gonna be usin the guano in cocco also so should be usin it by next weekend all bein well and im back on me manor ;-) got sum gkxliver goin in flower first then 2wks ill throw another 5 and so on should see a nice bit on bud pron hopefully every 2 wks gonna be messy but worth every minute of i can pull 15 oz every other wk!!
 

W Dragon

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yh mate just ditch the ph pen i would nt even entertain pickin the fucker up im that cofident without 1 gonna be usin the guano in cocco also so should be usin it by next weekend all bein well and im back on me manor ;-) got sum gkxliver goin in flower first then 2wks ill throw another 5 and so on should see a nice bit on bud pron hopefully every 2 wks gonna be messy but worth every minute of i can pull 15 oz every other wk!!
I'll have to use the ph pen mate the curiosity of not knowing the numbers would drive me mad lol
what's your water like then mate? ours is pretty shitty, hard as fuck it even looks cloudy sometimes but tha could just be copper pipes.
I'm gonna have a look for cheap guano in the bag and see about mixing a little in for flower when they get potted up out of their starter pots and if I don't go that way I'll go with the guakalong 3eyes is using.
Have you never used a ph metre then mate?
15oz every other week would be a lovely number and one certainly worth working for, I'll take it your going for a proper perpetual then, have you selected mothers for it? I imagine it'll be hard work going from seed and trying to keep to those times or are you gonna use the clone only's for it and run the others along side?
I'm waiting on some beans to be delivered by the fairy aswell, should be here any day now thought they may have come today but no dice so fingers crossed 2mo, got some other seeds a local group were running a breeding project on, not sure of the details but they were working on the strain for a while so should be worth a look, Iplan on vegging the seed strains and putting clones off them on the outsides of the grow to gauge quality and if they meet the standard I'll run them alongside the others.
 

IC3M4L3

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i normall break my coco slabs down with ph water,, so i dont need to ph again BUT dident this time so gunna have to keep tabs on that PH,,me cuts arrive soon !! wohoo let the good times roll
 

cheddar1985

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Yh bro got a exo psycho slh and soon to be a livers mother and ill be throwin beans in the mix as they go in might av found me a keeper outta the gkxlivers pukka gave use as my man said it stinks to high heaven so gotta wait till im back see wot all the fuss is about tbf yh the shit 3eyes is usin is the way ive gone lad its a no brainer especailly with cocco and wot u put threw it ;-) neva used the ripen was gonna last time but neva so we ll see at a later date lol got enough to contend with atm lmao
na bro no ph or ppm/ec metre needed tbh mate
 

W Dragon

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i normall break my coco slabs down with ph water,, so i dont need to ph again BUT dident this time so gunna have to keep tabs on that PH,,me cuts arrive soon !! wohoo let the good times roll
What coco are you using mate? a 50L bag of coco only cost £12 is it worth messing around with bales/blocks, the plagron shit I used last time stained everything a reddish brown whilst running the ph'd water through it to set the ph, was a messy affair and wouldn't fancy doing that in my white bath.
 

W Dragon

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Yh bro got a exo psycho slh and soon to be a livers mother and ill be throwin beans in the mix as they go in might av found me a keeper outta the gkxlivers pukka gave use as my man said it stinks to high heaven so gotta wait till im back see wot all the fuss is about tbf yh the shit 3eyes is usin is the way ive gone lad its a no brainer especailly with cocco and wot u put threw it ;-) neva used the ripen was gonna last time but neva so we ll see at a later date lol got enough to contend with atm lmao
Fucking hell mate defo sounds like your gonna have your hands full, are you documenting the next grow in ya journal? haven't seen it in a while. some good strains there ya spoiled bastard lol fingers crossed for a good pheno out of pukka's grape cross will be nice to see how they come along.
 

mrt1980

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Oh yeah I took the jump and bought canna coco and canna a + b, gonna see what the difference is between canna and the coco run I did before.
The last time I ran coco I wasn't impressed, picked up plagron coco and had to set the ph on it by running a shit load of ph'd water through all the pots and I was using mixed nutes canadian express, ionic and dutch masters I believe, It all went well and yielded well but just didn't seem as easy as the soil running along side it, don't get me wrong wasn't any hassle but the the soil plants just seemed to look that bit better and also taste better at the end.
Hopefully this run will go better using the same brand items and with all you guys having experience with the stuff should I run in to any probs not that I see any arising.
i done my first coco grow last run. i run white widow from dutch passion that i had run on my first grow. i got 8oz off 5 plants in the soil but with coco i got 10oz of tidy bud and 3oz of small stuff that ive kept to make qwiso off 4 plants this time. the others i run done quite shit tho. i ended up throwing away 4 of my blue cheese and i only got an oz off the last one. if it wasnt for the blue widow, sour jack and og13 free seeds it would have been shit. i had nearly 3oz off the blue widow but the g13 seeds where in soil and i only got an oz off each.

i stopped using my ph pen like chedz told me and i never had any problems mate. ive kept it cos the olny time i think ill need it is when i use rhitzonic, that stuff bumped my ph up like fuck. i think it was upto 9.5 after adding half the dose it says to lol
 

cheddar1985

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Fucking hell mate defo sounds like your gonna have your hands full, are you documenting the next grow in ya journal? haven't seen it in a while. some good strains there ya spoiled bastard lol fingers crossed for a good pheno out of pukka's grape cross will be nice to see how they come along.
Everythin is all there ready for me to start flowerin bro just need to land back at my gaff as ive a lad lookin after things atm friday saturday and it full steam ahead ill av 35 ladies +my mothers all at the same time 5 unrooted cuts 10 veggin and 20 in flower which will give me 5 out every 2wks with 5 goin in that av had 4 weeks veg ;-)
 

W Dragon

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i done my first coco grow last run. i run white widow from dutch passion that i had run on my first grow. i got 8oz off 5 plants in the soil but with coco i got 10oz of tidy bud and 3oz of small stuff that ive kept to make qwiso off 4 plants this time. the others i run done quite shit tho. i ended up throwing away 4 of my blue cheese and i only got an oz off the last one. if it wasnt for the blue widow, sour jack and og13 free seeds it would have been shit. i had nearly 3oz off the blue widow but the g13 seeds where in soil and i only got an oz off each.

i stopped using my ph pen like chedz told me and i never had any problems mate. ive kept it cos the olny time i think ill need it is when i use rhitzonic, that stuff bumped my ph up like fuck. i think it was upto 9.5 after adding half the dose it says to lol
fucking hell mate that sounds like a mixed bag, I wouldn't fancy that many different strains running at the same time especially with the different strength feeds etc, I won't be able to ditch the ph metre mate not until I've seen with my own eye's that the numbers stay in the right area's, I'm sure all will be fine but I'll need to know the ph with the different nute strengths just for peace of mind, I was told years ago you don't need to ph my soil grows and that turned out to be a half truth, sure you could get through with out worrying about the ph but I don't believe for one second you could pull the same numbers as using the ph metre.
I'm gonna stay away from the rhizotonic for now just because of what it does to the ph I hate having to add ph down, just doesn't seem right adding too much acid to ya plants.
was you happy with growing in coco then mate? after my last attempt I'd sort of written it off but after seeing these guys make it look as easy as soil I got pulled back in for the yield.
 

IC3M4L3

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i done my first coco grow last run. i run white widow from dutch passion that i had run on my first grow. i got 8oz off 5 plants in the soil but with coco i got 10oz of tidy bud and 3oz of small stuff that ive kept to make qwiso off 4 plants this time. the others i run done quite shit tho. i ended up throwing away 4 of my blue cheese and i only got an oz off the last one. if it wasnt for the blue widow, sour jack and og13 free seeds it would have been shit. i had nearly 3oz off the blue widow but the g13 seeds where in soil and i only got an oz off each.

i stopped using my ph pen like chedz told me and i never had any problems mate. ive kept it cos the olny time i think ill need it is when i use rhitzonic, that stuff bumped my ph up like fuck. i think it was upto 9.5 after adding half the dose it says to lol
i used that cannazym/rhiz last time and never even thought to drag me ph pen out,,but i guess u feed til run-off i dont more is less with me :)

first tim growing with the airpots and took on the 10 litre ones! so 6 is gunna be my max qwite possibly,. i thought they wouldnt be much bigger than the 11 litre wilma sqware pots but fuk me ther massiv!
i just threw my coco in, no need for clay balls me thiinks/hopes anyways. ordered me coller reducer of extractor from 5-4inch and new 45 watt cfl for me veg cab :) so its lined in mylar with about 100 wat cfl blue spec shoudl make em sexy as fuk!
 

IC3M4L3

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Everythin is all there ready for me to start flowerin bro just need to land back at my gaff as ive a lad lookin after things atm friday saturday and it full steam ahead ill av 35 ladies +my mothers all at the same time 5 unrooted cuts 10 veggin and 20 in flower which will give me 5 out every 2wks with 5 goin in that av had 4 weeks veg ;-)
can ur man not change a timer from 18-12 hrs? lol
 
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