Mitt's Crying About Obama's Campaign Tactics??

[UncleBuck]

To say nothing of the amount paid to those with illegal or forged or stolen social security numbers. The right has this mistaken belief that illegals pay no taxes - I wonder if they believe this because they pay their day workers under the table?

should we also get into all the other taxes illegals pay? property taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, state taxes.

Dog forbid we mention how much they add to the economy with their spending. don't make me bust out the stats that show much they add to state GDPs. it's actually pretty astounding. they live here and spend money here just like we do.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Canndo,

Can you at least agree both sides are playing dirty, making the OP a bit hypocritical to single out Romney and portray Obama the poor innocent victim? You'd think this was Steve Martin's The Jerk remake.

See, I don't like Romney. But with my stance of pro-life and being against PPACA, he's my only choice. Hell, I'd take Rosanne over either of them with a mandatory daily listening of her Star Spangled Banner rendition.

when did he paint obama as the victim , he spoke of Romney accusations and his inability to be truthful, and that obama was/is resilient to baseless attacks, or arguments that have more in comon with a facade then a political discussion

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

The moment I saw Palin on the ticket I realized that Repubs don't take this country or it's leadership seriously.


I coud be wrong - you may be just making that statement for effect.

id say the moment they put a drunk, drug user, draft dodger Bush jr in office it was over, . . .
but apparently GOP has forgotten what a embarrassment to our country and their party he was,

i mean the dems learned from gore you would think GOP would learn,

GOP has no back bone they are yellow and so is every other republican if they support people who want to dismantle our economoy

 

[londonfog]

I am forced to medicate myself when I do this excercise. My wife, after only a day or so begins to yell at the TV - really, I suspect it may be shortening our lives or at least our marriage. But someone has to do it.

I tried the same thing with MSNBC - but their punditry only lasts 3 hours, after that it is "locked up" or some such nonesense. Shultz is just a wannabe Hannity on the left and Odonnald is a little too, smirky. I caught him leading a guest "So how would you react to Romney's blatant lies?" But even he doesn't commit the sorts of attrocities FOX does. "Imagine what FOX would have done had Ryan been found to revere a confirmed ATHIEST (Rand).... Just imagine". Is far better than Hannity's "If the left encountered this (an Obama lie I suppose), they would be outraged, they would spew on every biased channel.. they would...."

In short, One simply has you come to your own conclusion, the other gives you the conclusion it wants you to have.

I will admit that it takes fortitutde to "swim" in that pool.

I think MSNBC can exaggerate the truth and Fox just out right lies.. I think the Daily Show provides the best info whilst making me laugh.

 

[londonfog]

id say the moment they put a drunk, drug user, draft dodger Bush jr in office it was over, . . .
but apparently GOP has forgotten what a embarrassment to our country and their party he was,

i mean the dems learned from gore you would think GOP would learn,

GOP has no back bone they are yellow and so is every other republican if they support people who want to dismantle our economoy

Bush did such a horrible job that they don't even invite him to the convention, but yet the same folks at the convention voted and stood with Bush..CrAzY

 

[Canna Sylvan]

I am forced to medicate myself when I do this excercise. My wife, after only a day or so begins to yell at the TV - really, I suspect it may be shortening our lives or at least our marriage. But someone has to do it.

I tried the same thing with MSNBC - but their punditry only lasts 3 hours, after that it is "locked up" or some such nonesense. Shultz is just a wannabe Hannity on the left and Odonnald is a little too, smirky. I caught him leading a guest "So how would you react to Romney's blatant lies?" But even he doesn't commit the sorts of attrocities FOX does. "Imagine what FOX would have done had Ryan been found to revere a confirmed ATHIEST (Rand).... Just imagine". Is far better than Hannity's "If the left encountered this (an Obama lie I suppose), they would be outraged, they would spew on every biased channel.. they would...."

In short, One simply has you come to your own conclusion, the other gives you the conclusion it wants you to have.

I will admit that it takes fortitutde to "swim" in that pool.

I have a similar exercise, but I come here. To put up with you all, I need to medicate twice a week. Good thing tonight is day one of medication. I'm making a vegan Chicago style thin crust pepperoni and another creamy spinach to deal with the munchies.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

I have a similar exercise, but I come here. To put up with you all, I need to medicate twice a week. Good thing tonight is day one of medication. I'm making a vegan Chicago style thin crust pepperoni and another creamy spinach to deal with the munchies.

why is it vegans still refer to non meat substitutes by their meat names, is this part of the denial, that allows you to claim potato chips and potatoe au butter and process cheese or deep fried potatoes as nutritious, as a vegan you should know the second you cook something you have lost 80% of its raw nutrients , but go on vegan this vegan that Romney romney

and that is why i blanch my veggies, and eat em with a small amount of kosher sat(less sodium more sodium flavor) and pepper. sightly heated but the structures of the veggies cells are not destroyed releasing most of the nutritious parts into your water that you throw out, how do you think soups are so nutritious its called the holy trinity(i use leeks), when you blanch ,your just saturating

 

[canndo]

id say the moment they put a drunk, drug user, draft dodger Bush jr in office it was over, . . .
but apparently GOP has forgotten what a embarrassment to our country and their party he was,

i mean the dems learned from gore you would think GOP would learn,

GOP has no back bone they are yellow and so is every other republican if they support people who want to dismantle our economoy

However loath I am to come to Bush's defense, I thought a bit about the exact point where I figured Republicans lost any actual concern over the whole of our country. I figured that jaded as those who selected Bush to run were, they still seemed to have a national goal. I never held Bush's penchant for drink against him, in fact I have trouble trusting anyone who doesn't drink. I look with suspicion upon anyone who is unwilling to alter their conciousness as that indicates to me that they are likely unable to have empathy or even simpathy for another. No, I stand by my statement - it was Palin.

 

[canndo]

I think MSNBC can exaggerate the truth and Fox just out right lies.. I think the Daily Show provides the best info whilst making me laugh.

I harbor some disrespect for those on the sidelines who have good ideas and good insights but don't yield to actually running for office. For instance, why does Limbaugh not run? The same goes for Stewart. What's his name, the SNL writer has my respect, he put his money where his mouth is.

I wonder sometimes why Obama or even Romney doesn't lift entire sections of Stewart's shows and use them as campaign ads. I also marvel at their research department.

 

[Krayven Sumhead]

Bush did such a horrible job that they don't even invite him to the convention, but yet the same folks at the convention voted and stood with Bush..CrAzY

Betcha in 20 years after Cheney and Dub-ya finish revising history via their books, the Repubs will be building another statue of Dub-ya next to their other greedy white man idol, Ray-gun.

Ya know, cuz he set 'Bench-Marks' on 'The Road Map To Freedom' and 'Stayed the course'.

While searching for 'The Smoking Gun' that would turn out to be 'A Mushroom Cloud'.

Dub-Ya's legacy is that he was the 'Catch Phrase' President.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

However loath I am to come to Bush's defense, I thought a bit about the exact point where I figured Republicans lost any actual concern over the whole of our country. I figured that jaded as those who selected Bush to run were, they still seemed to have a national goal. I never held Bush's penchant for drink against him, in fact I have trouble trusting anyone who doesn't drink. I look with suspicion upon anyone who is unwilling to alter their conciousness as that indicates to me that they are likely unable to have empathy or even simpathy for another. No, I stand by my statement - it was Palin.

to me his partying had little to do my distaste for him, the drinking drugging has more to do with how it warped his mind, no way he doesnt either have slight mental retardation or was fucked up from his college years, imo, his only saving grace was his safety net of BUsh sr supporters, who i also dont like but imho wasnt a horrible prez

 

[canndo]

to me his partying had little to do my distaste for him, the drinking drugging has more to do with how it warped his mind, no way he doesnt either have slight mental retardation or was fucked up from his college years, imo, his only saving grace was his safety net of BUsh sr supporters, who i also dont like but imho wasnt a horrible prez

Many of us knew folks like him in college. We knew all about him without ever knowing his personal history. He as well, in my opinion was a sociopath. People think that term is more inflamatory than it really is. I always saw him as believing that there was really only one true "person" in the universe, no one else was ever pertinent to his existence. I see the same traits in Romney. He can lie to others as he sees fit because in fact he is not lying to people, his entire world is made up of "those who can help me acheive my goals and those who simply don't matter at all".

 

[cannabineer]

Is that sociopathy or solipsism? cn

 

[ChesusRice]

that would be mitt's best strategy.

this was supposed to be a cake walk. sit back, be quiet, and make this a referendum on the other guy.

mitt can't handle that. he even goes ahead and picks ryan. now this is no longer a simple referendum on obama, this is ALL ABOUT romney and ryan.

this is now a referendum on the exact people it shouldn't have been.

i don't know how you screw up such a simple task. sit back and shut the fuck up is as easy as it gets.

He cannot do that
The economy is turning around and has been for awhile
Cant get him on Foreign affairs
Cant get him on taxes either
Even on health care reform the polls are turning against the Republicans

So now it is back to prognosticating a scary future if the guy with a darker skin tone and the funny names gets in
And hoping Voter suppression can do enough damage to get Romney in

 

[canndo]

Is that sociopathy or solipsism? cn

considering his favorite philosopher is Christ, I tend toward sociopath.

 

[OLD DUDE]

Here's what I don't quite understand about any of this moronic shit! The President doesn't really have anything to do with the economy! The only thing a President can really do is make suggestions! It's the morons in congress that has everything all fucked up!!

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

He cannot do that
The economy is turning around and has been for awhile
Cant get him on Foreign affairs
Cant get him on taxes either
Even on health care reform the polls are turning against the Republicans

So now it is back to prognosticating a scary future if the guy with a darker skin tone and the funny names gets in
And hoping Voter suppression can do enough damage to get Romney in

lmfao the "typical dark skinned disney villain" bit eh

Many of us knew folks like him in college. We knew all about him without ever knowing his personal history. He as well, in my opinion was a sociopath. People think that term is more inflamatory than it really is. I always saw him as believing that there was really only one true "person" in the universe, no one else was ever pertinent to his existence. I see the same traits in Romney. He can lie to others as he sees fit because in fact he is not lying to people, his entire world is made up of "those who can help me acheive my goals and those who simply don't matter at all".

i agree sociopath is term that is misunderstood, and bush might be one, he has no understanding of causality, and neither does Romney, there things in life that are important to being a good person in general, understanding causality and respecting it is one of em

 

[cannabineer]

considering his favorite philosopher is Christ, I tend toward sociopath.

I am not sure how his religion affects the choice of term. cn

 

[canndo]

I am not sure how his religion affects the choice of term. cn

Christianity is the antithisis of solipsism. More to the point, one is an intelectual choice, the other is a phychological.. er... coondition.

 

[ChesusRice]

lmfao the "typical dark skinned disney villain" bit eh

I want you to pay particular attention to the Crowds that gather at Romney/ryan events and the Upcoming RNC convention. And I want you to see the diversity