GOP is disgusting slime

billybob420

billybob420

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ChesusRice said:
Awesome Post
Then please site examples of Voter Fraud
It must be pervasive

I know here in wisconsin
They Prosecuted 7 individuals for voter fraud
all 7 were convicted felons who were not elgible to vote becuase they were still on probation

It worked out to a statistical number of .00023% of elgible voters in wisconsin

That for sure is enough to throw an election

All though I am not sure which way they voted
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But what about the chickens, man? Those are just the eggs, you know what comes from eggs?
 
canndo

canndo

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beenthere said:
LMAO There is little difference between voter registration fraud and voter fraud itself, very little.
It's really not the point is it? Voter registration fraud is just a prerequisite to voter fraud, simple as that.

Are you more concerned with the chicken or the egg? And won't you admit we should do everything legally possible to stop both?
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When one pays a quarter for each registration, and they pay people who don't much have any ethics, that person may well fake names. Faked names, unless those names are collected and intetionaly used, will have little influence on election results. Chesus asks the same question I do, show me where ACORN as a group has been convicted of crimes, furthermore please show me where they have actually attempted to sway the results of an election in a particular direction.

Voter fraud is an individual act whereby someone attempts to cast an illegal vote. Now it is possible that a group can be directed to do such things but it is exceedingly rare. The final category, election fraud, I notice you do not address. Inhibiting a class of legitimate voters from casting their ballots is election fraud and there is no other purpose than to subvert the legitimate results of an election.


Now, why did Ohio decide that citizens (including vets btw) should no longer have the right to cast early votes?
 
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ChesusRice

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canndo said:
When one pays a quarter for each registration, and they pay people who don't much have any ethics, that person may well fake names. Faked names, unless those names are collected and intetionaly used, will have little influence on election results. Chesus asks the same question I do, show me where ACORN as a group has been convicted of crimes, furthermore please show me where they have actually attempted to sway the results of an election in a particular direction.

Voter fraud is an individual act whereby someone attempts to cast an illegal vote. Now it is possible that a group can be directed to do such things but it is exceedingly rare. The final category, election fraud, I notice you do not address. Inhibiting a class of legitimate voters from casting their ballots is election fraud and there is no other purpose than to subvert the legitimate results of an election.


Now, why did Ohio decide that citizens (including vets btw) should no longer have the right to cast early votes?
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Actually the majority of Voter registration "fraud" was people that registered on more than one registration form with identical information
 
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beenthere

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canndo said:
When one pays a quarter for each registration, and they pay people who don't much have any ethics, that person may well fake names. Faked names, unless those names are collected and intetionaly used, will have little influence on election results. Chesus asks the same question I do, show me where ACORN as a group has been convicted of crimes, furthermore please show me where they have actually attempted to sway the results of an election in a particular direction.

Voter fraud is an individual act whereby someone attempts to cast an illegal vote. Now it is possible that a group can be directed to do such things but it is exceedingly rare. The final category, election fraud, I notice you do not address. Inhibiting a class of legitimate voters from casting their ballots is election fraud and there is no other purpose than to subvert the legitimate results of an election.


Now, why did Ohio decide that citizens (including vets btw) should no longer have the right to cast early votes?
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Why are you skirting my questions canndo?
Why would so many ACORN employees be getting arrested and convicted of voter registration fraud, if their sole intention was not to commit voter fraud?

You know as well as I do that it is very difficult to convict a corporation as a whole, but if you feel better knowing that it is "technically" the employees getting convicted of voter fraud, so be it, it tells me a lot about you.
 
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ChesusRice

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beenthere said:
why are you skirting my questions canndo?
why would so many acorn employees be getting arrested and convicted of voter registration fraud, if their sole intention was not to commit voter fraud?

You know as well as i do that it is very difficult to convict a corporation as a whole, but if you feel better knowing that it is "technically" the employees getting convicted of voter fraud, so be it, it tells me a lot about you.
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becuase acorn turned them in you fucking douche
 
canndo

canndo

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beenthere said:
Why are you skirting my questions canndo?
Why would so many ACORN employees be getting arrested and convicted of voter registration fraud, if their sole intention was not to commit voter fraud?

You know as well as I do that it is very difficult to convict a corporation as a whole, but if you feel better knowing that it is "technically" the employees getting convicted of voter fraud, so be it, it tells me a lot about you.
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I skirt no question. I told you that they committed fraud. "so many" is relative but you cannot know what their intention is and you will have to prove that their intent is to commit voter fraud. I say their intent was to make a few extra dollars.

If "corporations are people" then why do you have a problem with what it "tells you about me".

The fact remains that you cannot demonstrate orchestrated intent by the individual or ACORN to alter an election.

Now, I've asked you several times, and I asked you long before you asked questions that I have answered.


Why did Ohio legislate a law that reversed their ability to vote days before an election?
 
londonfog

londonfog

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beenthere said:
There's not much difference between the two.
All of the Acorn voter registration fraud cases were for the sole purpose of registering voters (illegally) in order for them to cast more than one vote! HELLO
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Dude that is something Nodrama would say..lol

so I guess when you register to vote you don't need to actually go vote because you registered and that's enough to make your vote count :roll: GOODBYE

Damn I guess Acorn wanted Mickey Mouse to vote...blame the idiot worker trying to fill his/her quota, not the organization. Smart people know better..Haters chose different
 
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ChesusRice

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beenthere said:
why are you skirting my questions canndo?
why would so many acorn employees be getting arrested and convicted of voter registration fraud, if their sole intention was not to commit voter fraud?

You know as well as i do that it is very difficult to convict a corporation as a whole, but if you feel better knowing that it is "technically" the employees getting convicted of voter fraud, so be it, it tells me a lot about you.
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becuase acorn turned them in you fucking douche

i HAVE ANSWEReD YOUR QUESTION 3X TIMES NOW
ANSWER MINE
HOW MANY TIMES HAS ACORN BEEN CONVICTED OF VOTER FRAUD, VOTER REGISTRATION FRAUD
OR ANYTHING?
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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ChesusRice said:
Awesome Post
Then please site examples of Voter Fraud
It must be pervasive

I know here in wisconsin
They Prosecuted 7 individuals for voter fraud
all 7 were convicted felons who were not elgible to vote becuase they were still on probation

It worked out to a statistical number of .00023% of elgible voters in wisconsin

That for sure is enough to throw an election

All though I am not sure which way they voted
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If you see seven cockroaches all at once in your kitchen, how many are hiding in your walls? Use some fancy Bayesian interference formula, bet you come up with zero huh?
 
canndo

canndo

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It could be that Beenthere had something pressing to do, it could be that he decided to take his bike out for a spin.

Or it could be that, as usual, he is incapable of owning up to reality, or in this case simply acknowleging something.


The State of Ohio afforded every citizen the ability to vote early.

Then the state took that ability away from old people, from veterans, from blacks, from the sick and from those who work and cannot go to the polls on the proper day. The state did this for a reason but Beenthere either doesn't know the reason or will not stand behind the reason they gave.

then the State of Ohio gave the right which previously all citizens had, then took away, back to only the Military.

Beenthere claims that this represents Ohio's desire to afford the military a little comfort, a little ease and convenience to vote.

Now, had there never been a law giving citizens the opportunity to vote early and had that opportunity never been recinded then I would be forced to agree, yes the military should have a little extra time.

But Beenthere can't really explain the turn around and so his argument falls apart.

But it falls apart in a variety of ways anyway and so he argues the same thing over and over again and fails to answer


Why did Ohio take the opportunity for firemen, policemen, veterans, nurses, teachers, the old, the sick and minorities to vote early?
 
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ChesusRice

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The simple answer is
Republicans treat the election like a game with no morals
They have crunched the numbers and found it advantageous to go for voter suppression, disenfranchisement and defunding

it is why they really hate ACORN Unions and Get Out the Vote drives in Urban areas

The Republicans also know that lower voter turn out favors them
And will go as far as to try and burn people out
When you hear
"it doesnt make a difference who you vote for so why vote?"

Chance are that shit ball Idea originated on top of a shit mountain of Republican Propaganda

The Republicans have also used the last 2 years for flooding the internet with Sock Puppets and have refined the Internet Echo Chamber
Put A lie out into the echo chamber and it gets repeated until some idiot on a stoner board repeats it like it was verse in the bible and no amount of evidence will change that world view
ALthough I do believe some of these right wingers do know the truth but dont care becuase they think the ends justify the means
 
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Hemlock

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Who cares if ACORN turned them in they still committed voters fraud on a NATIONAL scale. Canndo was tryin to say it wasn't as bad as what Ohio is doing but in my opinion its much worse and the record speaks for itself. And Obama was supported and took campaign contribution from them.

So as I said they are both dirty.
 
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