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Kaendar

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How is that anywhere near the same. This isn't mixing religions this is You saying someone can't be religious because they are gay.
Because, how are you going to claim membership to a religion but ignore its doctrine? Thats a poser at best.
 

Kaendar

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By that logic, you can't be Christian and tattooed.

But the thing that has me scratching my luxuriantly bestubbled chin is:
you claim to not be a Christian, and then you go around telling people what they should and shouldn't do as Christians.

You open yourself to charges of duplicity, at the least.

So imo you need to choose; do one of two things:
1) man up and claim your religion plainly, or
2) man up and let others be.

The common denominator is "man up"; that part is not to be avoided either way.
Yah ... my opinion.
cn
If the religion in question right now was Islam, or Judaism, I could say the same things. Do you have to belong to a religion to know what it is about?
 

Kaendar

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Oh dear sweet goodness. cn
And, as ive said before, there is a difference in the severity of sins. Tattoos, drugs, fornication, adultery, theft, cursing, alcohol, are all equivalent to misdemeanors. Suicide, blasphemy, homosexuality are all felonies. Homosexuality can be a misdemeanor sin, but I dont think too many gays genuinely denounce their sexuality before death.
 

NoGutsGrower

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Because, how are you going to claim membership to a religion but ignore its doctrine? Thats a poser at best.

It says God give all seed plants or some shit right? Why does the christian right wing still put down marijuana? Because of their fucked up interpretation of shit.
Same thing goes then how can you be christian and smoke pot? how can you be christian and have tattoos? you want to know how??? because the bible also says

"FOR I DESIRE MERCY NOT SACRIFICE"

have you even thumbed through the pages? Or do you just spew bullshit you've heard form others??? I'm positive it's just you reiterating shit you heard like a lot of dumb as noobs on this site (such as plants catching on fire from watering during full sun)!
 

Kaendar

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It says God give all seed plants or some shit right? Why does the christian right wing still put down marijuana? Because of their fucked up interpretation of shit.
Same thing goes then how can you be christian and smoke pot? how can you be christian and have tattoos? you want to know how??? because the bible also says

"FOR I DESIRE MERCY NOT SACRIFICE"

have you even thumbed through the pages? Or do you just spew bullshit you've heard form others??? I'm positive it's just you reiterating shit you heard like a lot of dumb as noobs on this site (such as plants catching on fire from watering during full sun)!
I have read the bible countless times. I know exactly what it says. Most Christians dont realize, but cannabis is used in the bible. Also, the reason most Christians oppose smoking weed is because the smoking of it hurts your lungs. If you use it with edibles or vaporizing it, it is perfectly fine.
 

mysunnyboy

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And, as ive said before, there is a difference in the severity of sins. Tattoos, drugs, fornication, adultery, theft, cursing, alcohol, are all equivalent to misdemeanors. Suicide, blasphemy, homosexuality are all felonies. Homosexuality can be a misdemeanor sin, but I dont think too many gays genuinely denounce their sexuality before death.
no there's not special K, that's the abused catholic in you talking. they like to qualify sin, but one is just as great as the other, but what do you care anyway since you said you weren't christian...shame shame K renouncing God just to be cool on the internet. you know you are gonna have to answer for it one day :eyesmoke:
 

cannabineer

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And, as ive said before, there is a difference in the severity of sins. Tattoos, drugs, fornication, adultery, theft, cursing, alcohol, are all equivalent to misdemeanors. Suicide, blasphemy, homosexuality are all felonies. Homosexuality can be a misdemeanor sin, but I dont think too many gays genuinely denounce their sexuality before death.
Oddly, the things you describe as felony sins are the ones I would not describe as sins, or crimes, at all. Suicide? Birthright. Blasphemy? Without consequence. Homosexuality? Nature. You will disagree, but these things I believe. Maybe that's why the dominionists are so uptight about them ... they're the most arguable. cn
 

Kaendar

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no there's not special K, that's the abused catholic in you talking. they like to qualify sin, but one is just as great as the other, but what do you care anyway since you said you weren't christian...shame shame K renouncing God just to be cool on the internet. you know you are gonna have to answer for it one day :eyesmoke:
I have never stepped foot in a Catholic church before.. I refuse to do so. They are responsible for a lot of evil in the world.
 

cannabineer

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If the religion in question right now was Islam, or Judaism, I could say the same things. Do you have to belong to a religion to know what it is about?
Obviously not. I give no allegiance to Christianity, although I'm rather familiar with its various doctrines and the pillars of its mythology. But you demonstrably don't restrict yourself to study; I've seen you repeatedly on these boards dispense actual life advice championing a rather strict form of Evangelical/dominionist doctrine. Maybe I'll start calling you Rev. Or ~giggle~ Father. cn
 

NoGutsGrower

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Matthew 6:14-15
For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

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Matthew 6:14-15
For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
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1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
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Isaiah 43:25-26
"I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more. Review the past for me, let us argue the matter together; state the case for your innocence.
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Acts 3:19
Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,
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Isaiah 1:18
"Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD. "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool.
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2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!
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Ephesians 1:7
In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace
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Hebrews 10:17
Then he adds: "Their sins and lawless acts I will remember no more."
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Daniel 9:9
The Lord our God is merciful and forgiving, even though we have rebelled against him;
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Colossians 1:13-14
For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
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Psalm 103:12
as far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us.
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Numbers 14:19-21
In accordance with your great love, forgive the sin of these people, just as you have pardoned them from the time they left Egypt until now." The LORD replied, "I have forgiven them, as you asked. Nevertheless, as surely as I live and as surely as the glory of the LORD fills the whole earth,
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Micah 7:18-19
Who is a God like you, who pardons sin and forgives the transgression of the remnant of his inheritance? You do not stay angry forever but delight to show mercy. You will again have compassion on us; you will tread our sins underfoot and hurl all our iniquities into the depths of the sea.
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Matthew 6:9-15
"This, then, is how you should pray: " 'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us today our daily bread. Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. ' For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
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Mark 11:25
And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins. "
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Matthew 26:28
This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.



All about forgiveness. Please show me where it says got wont forgive people for being gay!
 

Kaendar

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Oddly, the things you describe as felony sins are the ones I would not describe as sins, or crimes, at all. Suicide? Birthright. Blasphemy? Without consequence. Homosexuality? Nature. You will disagree, but these things I believe. Maybe that's why the dominionists are so uptight about them ... they're the most arguable. cn
Im just telling you the rules according to the Christian religion.. thats what you inquired about right? The entire point of Christianity is to gain salvation for your soul so when you die you can have eternal life. How can you ask for forgiveness if you die in sin? That is why suicides automatically go to hell. I assume the same goes for gays, but idk for sure... perhaps they have a chance at salvation, I hope so. Otherwise that is a lot of souls lost forever that could have otherwise been easily saved. Thats up to god.
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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This has nothing to do with religion, at least not on my part. I believe that gays should be able to be domestic partners or be civil unions or watever and have the same rights that traditional couples have. They can do that already in some states without altering the definition of marriage.
In another thread you said that if a gay person doesnt repent for their homosexual acts then god or Jesus wont forgive them, so of course religion plays a part in your decision to be against gay marriage. Argue all you want but NO ONE is going to take you seriously when discussing this subject. All you have to state is that you are against gay marriage and BAM, thats it, everyone thinks your reasoning is flawed and stupid, defending your views wont do anything but further peoples opinion on how ridiculous your reasoning is. I suggest you quit discussing this topic because it only stirs up shit. You are ABSOLUTELY wrong about gay marriage and we are ABSOLUTELY right about gay marriage. Get over it.
 

NoGutsGrower

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I have read the bible countless times. I know exactly what it says. Most Christians dont realize, but cannabis is used in the bible. Also, the reason most Christians oppose smoking weed is because the smoking of it hurts your lungs. If you use it with edibles or vaporizing it, it is perfectly fine.
I love it! every time you only reply to part of it!
 

UncleBuck

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no there's not special K, that's the abused catholic in you talking. they like to qualify sin, but one is just as great as the other, but what do you care anyway since you said you weren't christian...shame shame K renouncing God just to be cool on the internet. you know you are gonna have to answer for it one day :eyesmoke:
lol, special K.

since he is too much of an internet gaylord to let us have fun with his notched eyebrow awesomeness, perhaps a box of special K cereal will have to do.
 

Kaendar

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Matthew 6:14-15
For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

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Forgiveness Bible Verses



Bible Verses About Forgiveness - Read passages that offer biblical guidance on forgiveness and how important it is to forgive others as we have been forgiven by the blood of Christ. Read verses from the Holy Bible about forgiveness in relation to God, Jesus Christ, and the Christian faith.


Use our Bible verses by topic listing popular verses from the Old and New Testament.


Matthew 6:14-15
For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
Read Matthew 6 | View in parallel | Compare Translations
1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
Read 1 John 1 | View in parallel | Compare Translations
Isaiah 43:25-26
"I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more. Review the past for me, let us argue the matter together; state the case for your innocence.
Read Isaiah 43 | View in parallel | Compare Translations
Acts 3:19
Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,
Read Acts 3 | View in parallel | Compare Translations
Isaiah 1:18
"Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD. "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool.
Read Isaiah 1 | View in parallel | Compare Translations
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!
Read 2 Corinthians 5 | View in parallel | Compare Translations
Ephesians 1:7
In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace
Read Ephesians 1 | View in parallel | Compare Translations
Hebrews 10:17
Then he adds: "Their sins and lawless acts I will remember no more."
Read Hebrews 10 | View in parallel | Compare Translations
Daniel 9:9
The Lord our God is merciful and forgiving, even though we have rebelled against him;
Read Daniel 9 | View in parallel | Compare Translations
Colossians 1:13-14
For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
Read Colossians 1 | View in parallel | Compare Translations
Psalm 103:12
as far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us.
Read Psalms 103 | View in parallel | Compare Translations
Numbers 14:19-21
In accordance with your great love, forgive the sin of these people, just as you have pardoned them from the time they left Egypt until now." The LORD replied, "I have forgiven them, as you asked. Nevertheless, as surely as I live and as surely as the glory of the LORD fills the whole earth,
Read Numbers 14 | View in parallel | Compare Translations
Micah 7:18-19
Who is a God like you, who pardons sin and forgives the transgression of the remnant of his inheritance? You do not stay angry forever but delight to show mercy. You will again have compassion on us; you will tread our sins underfoot and hurl all our iniquities into the depths of the sea.
Read Micah 7 | View in parallel | Compare Translations
Matthew 6:9-15
"This, then, is how you should pray: " 'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us today our daily bread. Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. ' For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
Read Matthew 6 | View in parallel | Compare Translations
Mark 11:25
And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins. "
Read Mark 11 | View in parallel | Compare Translations
Matthew 26:28
This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.



All about forgiveness. Please show me where it says got wont forgive people for being gay!
Like I just told neer, how can you be forgiven if you die in sin? You have to have forgiveness before you die.
 

NoGutsGrower

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Im just telling you the rules according to the Christian religion.. thats what you inquired about right? The entire point of Christianity is to gain salvation for your soul so when you die you can have eternal life. How can you ask for forgiveness if you die in sin? That is why suicides automatically go to hell. I assume the same goes for gays, but idk for sure... perhaps they have a chance at salvation, I hope so. Otherwise that is a lot of souls lost forever that could have otherwise been easily saved. Thats up to god.

Well they aren't gaining salvation by not forgiving gays. God doesn't forgive peoples sins that don't forgive others!
I see lots of rules about forgiveness Please show me one that says you cant forgive GAY
 

Kaendar

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In another thread you said that if a gay person doesnt repent for their homosexual acts then god or Jesus wont forgive them, so of course religion plays a part in your decision to be against gay marriage. Argue all you want but NO ONE is going to take you seriously when discussing this subject. All you have to state is that you are against gay marriage and BAM, thats it, everyone thinks your reasoning is flawed and stupid, defending your views wont do anything but further peoples opinion on how ridiculous your reasoning is. I suggest you quit discussing this topic because it only stirs up shit. You are ABSOLUTELY wrong about gay marriage and we are ABSOLUTELY right about gay marriage. Get over it.
Oh plz CWE, the fact that you think you have every answer to all of lifes mysteries is the same reason you get bullied in the spiritual section. I wasnt aware of your omnipotent powers oh great one. Plz tell me, do aliens exist? Who shot JFK? Where is the Ark of the Covenant?
 

cannabineer

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Im just telling you the rules according to the Christian religion.. thats what you inquired about right? The entire point of Christianity is to gain salvation for your soul so when you die you can have eternal life. How can you ask for forgiveness if you die in sin? That is why suicides automatically go to hell. I assume the same goes for gays, but idk for sure... perhaps they have a chance at salvation, I hope so. Otherwise that is a lot of souls lost forever that could have otherwise been easily saved. Thats up to god.
Reverend K, there is no "the Christian religion". There are hundreds of variants, all of them claiming to be the true Church. This strongly suggests that none of them are. You're trying to propagate the particular mil-spec soul weapon that got to you first. Jmo, naturally. cn
 
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