Testing Hans panel: 56watt Cree xp-e/ Lumiled rebel power==== Let's talk efficiency
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PSUAGRO.
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Wow my mind is blown away by this.................
Looks great. I am wondering why you are running the big fan there, is this panel generating too much heat?
PSUAGRO.
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It's for my RH and Gnat issues...........the panel doesn't run hot but the driver does, it is remote so no biggie.......raises my sealed room by two-three degrees/not bad....
hyroot
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Since I started top dressing with ancient forest compost. All the gnats were gone within a week. Predatory mites moult in compost too. They eat all bugs then die of when all bugs are gone. I tried everything. Fish oil, sesame oil, diatomaceous earth, mosquito dunks, neem oil, pure spray green, soap spray. DT temporarily worked. Acient Forest Compost worked.the best. Plus the bennies in there. Its $8 a bag. Cheaper than anything else.
Over watering can attract gnats too.
Happy yard work
Over watering can attract gnats too.
Happy yard work
PSUAGRO.
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Well txchillies little experiment(last page/check it out) has got me thinking about my panel height and it's influence on my girls........still coming to terms about how his moms didn't auto flower but the clones did under natural sunlight........fucking crazy......any thoughts???
@hyroot........thanks for the info/ fan is helping the gnats not get established atm.............I've been following good watering practices for some time/ it's hard to believe that I overnuted them, but that's what their showing me............I'm in trouble
Day 56...........1&2
.........Both still showing signs of overfertilization due to my topdressing of a high p-k nute..........#1 still has nitrogen/phosphorous claws and #2 still dropping some fan leaves/ my mistake and nothing I can do about it........obviously nothing but aerated water from here on out, will add beni bacteria to help with the toxicity issues( but won't change the damage that's been done).....well let's just finish this up..........
...........raised the panel eight inches higher to see if in fact i stunted them from the light(growth has been off to me for awhile), will see how they respond.........56watt phase...............be safe and happy growing
@hyroot........thanks for the info/ fan is helping the gnats not get established atm.............I've been following good watering practices for some time/ it's hard to believe that I overnuted them, but that's what their showing me............I'm in trouble
Day 56...........1&2
.........Both still showing signs of overfertilization due to my topdressing of a high p-k nute..........#1 still has nitrogen/phosphorous claws and #2 still dropping some fan leaves/ my mistake and nothing I can do about it........obviously nothing but aerated water from here on out, will add beni bacteria to help with the toxicity issues( but won't change the damage that's been done).....well let's just finish this up.....................raised the panel eight inches higher to see if in fact i stunted them from the light(growth has been off to me for awhile), will see how they respond.........56watt phase...............be safe and happy growing
Txchilies
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I noticed once they started flowering the plants didn't stretch much more, some limbs did grow out more than others. But the bud sites and buds did begin to grow and stretch, I'd watch them close and maybe drop the light back down to see if it will help make the buds more dence instead of thin pencils. How tall are your ladies? Mine didn't get much over 26 inches tall even the ones I bent and twisted.
cannabuilding
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Looking great man, first time i see them with pistils, can wait for them to frost up, im still amazed at the size of the plants with just 56watts, no wonder why this forum has a high amount of LED fan boys, LEDS can grow some massive plants/buds when the right techniques are implemented.
Happy growing and peace to all.
Happy growing and peace to all.
PSUAGRO.
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#2 is at two feet and #1 is at 20 inches at it's highest, both have been VLST'd...........yeah ill watch it closely/ still trying to get something out of this friend
DAY 57.............#1
.....................#2
.............Still watching the damage caused by my overfert and will add bacteria at the next watering .....................that's it
.......one or two more days at this panel height and then ill tie them down more and drop it onto their chins.....17th day of flower and 56 watt phase............be safe and happy growing
PSUAGRO.
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Thanks brother dawg.......Looking Great Brother Psuagro.
Yeah Finally!!!! they are slowwww........ txchillies wasn't kidding............flowering is way behind/ time to lower the panel IMO...ha
Day 58.....................1&2
........had the usual timer/stoner issue and may have put them back a couple of days due to light stress/blah............rigged up a bungie cord to my panel=oscillating fan to move it a couple inches back & forth to help with shadowing and coverage...............be safe and happy growing
The Dawg
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Looking Real Freaken Sweet Brother Psuagrow.Are You Still Doing A 12/12 Light Schedule?I Was thinking With 54 Watts You Could Bump It Up To A 14/10 To Give Her More Light Intensity.I Do Have To Say You Have Some craZY aZZ Gardening Skill's Brother.I Just Read Txchillies I Belive Thats Who it Was Anyway.About Nirvina Seeds And Light Intensity Wow So You Decide To Say Kiss My Azz Im Throwing 56 Watt's Of Led At Them. 
PSUAGRO.
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Thanks dawg/good vibes your wayLooking Real Freaken Sweet Brother Psuagrow.Are You Still Doing A 12/12 Light Schedule?I Was thinking With 54 Watts You Could Bump It Up To A 14/10 To Give Her More Light Intensity.I Do Have To Say You Have Some craZY aZZ Gardening Skill's Brother.I Just Read Txchillies I Belive Thats Who it Was Anyway.About Nirvina Seeds And Light Intensity Wow So You Decide To Say Kiss My Azz Im Throwing 56 Watt's Of Led At Them.
still at 12/12 for now..............txchillie's experiment is still got perplexed.....granted it's naive to think that a triband(blue/red/deep red) panel like mine would replicate the sun in any way, but to stunt them into not "autoflowering" means their are issues obviously........interested about your recommendation, so you think 14/10 is a better light schedule on these girls??? I know most MJ strains (indicas) will flower under ten hours of darkness, just worried about hermieing these already stressed autos..........any input would be appreciatedDAY 59...............1&2
.......watered both with bacteria/aerated tap..............fan leaves still falling and it's becoming evident that I also have light deprivation symptoms............got some scraps of Orca that I traded for some beers.........will add more loop stakes and try to get more light onto these bitches(by reflective means)..........be safe and happy growing RIU
Txchilies
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It is truely odd to see the one plant thinning like that even after a little burn. After reading somemore on BM, and going back to Nirvana on this strain, it seems they have done something with the genetics to make this plant very needy to lumen output. I quote "We reccomend 6500 lumen per square foot at a minimum" with that being said and the fact that they also reccomend 18/6 for the entire growing period. I figure this is a strain truely suited for outdoor growing if done indoors more fitting to use 400 to 1000 HID.
It is definately not CFL friendly, as from what I can gather looking at yours they don't like the LED's witch is a shame. As I truely want to learn more about the LED's, and get away from CFL's as I will surely stay away from HID's. As for strains I will not be doing any autoflowers at least from Nirvana. Will have to do alot more research before I got there again.
It is definately not CFL friendly, as from what I can gather looking at yours they don't like the LED's witch is a shame. As I truely want to learn more about the LED's, and get away from CFL's as I will surely stay away from HID's. As for strains I will not be doing any autoflowers at least from Nirvana. Will have to do alot more research before I got there again.
IlovePlants
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And even then, you select the most dominant phenotype. They will always be slightly better hormonally suited do to epigenetic inheritance, as that is the nature of the beast. But environment doesn't determine genes, survival does. I'm breeding under leds, they still get light burn from too much blue in veg, but damn are they insane little buggers.
Soon the "babies,babies,babies" thread will be updated, as two of the AOXCW2 plants are ready for flowering, but that wont be for a week. From first hand experience though, there are always those plants that are just little fucking bastards, they just don't want to do shit. I realized how crazy I was for starting from such a genetically isolated pool. Turned out well though... Experience is what makes masters, dedication is just experience farming for people IRL.
By the way Psu. PM me about seeds.
Sincerely,
ILovePlants
chazbolin
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Interesting journal PsuaGro and reps for a full price purchase of one of Han's panels. You are trusted spirit pushing the boundaries of energy efficient and successful plant growth. BTW can you direct me to his site? I too suffer from CRS and don't see a link anywhere to it.
For 56 watts under 'tri-band' spectrums and this being an AF this is pretty much what I would have expected. Perhaps you'll be in a position to do a side by with a broad spectrum lamp type @ 100 watts and see how the next grow shapes up. I'd kick you one of my IG 100's if you're up for it just PM me and I'll make it happen. While it won't be an exact side by side since the Inda-Gro 100 will draw a bit more, I think it'll be worth doing because at a lot of levels and along the entire cycle the comparison results should be known. FYI I use the 100 for clones but I ran a single OG Kush flower in a single 5 gal bucket by keeping the canopy @ 12" from the lamp from week 9 on to finish. It can be done you just have to know the uMole counts.
Han's website and what he told you are apparently at odds in that the site says one panel will cover a 24" x 20" area but in an email he later recommends a adding a second panel. Perhaps my donating an IG 100 will prompt Han's into donating another panel for your next grow. Hey it can't hurt to ask right?
Txchillies: I would be suspicious of anyone listing a suggested lumen output for that strain. It is completely irrelevant to a plants photobiological requirements. If you have the proper PAR intensities and spectrums, as measured in the PFFD which would be far more appropriate information to manage the DLI it won't matter what lamp source you're using as long as the DLI saturation is met. That being said you should look for PAR readings, measured by a quantum meter, in the 200-300 uMoles at veg and 700+ uMoles @ flower. Growers should never reference a visual value like lumens which a standard photometer reads for the spectral sensitivity (the luminosity function) of human visual perception of brightness.
just sayin
For 56 watts under 'tri-band' spectrums and this being an AF this is pretty much what I would have expected. Perhaps you'll be in a position to do a side by with a broad spectrum lamp type @ 100 watts and see how the next grow shapes up. I'd kick you one of my IG 100's if you're up for it just PM me and I'll make it happen. While it won't be an exact side by side since the Inda-Gro 100 will draw a bit more, I think it'll be worth doing because at a lot of levels and along the entire cycle the comparison results should be known. FYI I use the 100 for clones but I ran a single OG Kush flower in a single 5 gal bucket by keeping the canopy @ 12" from the lamp from week 9 on to finish. It can be done you just have to know the uMole counts.
Han's website and what he told you are apparently at odds in that the site says one panel will cover a 24" x 20" area but in an email he later recommends a adding a second panel. Perhaps my donating an IG 100 will prompt Han's into donating another panel for your next grow. Hey it can't hurt to ask right?
Txchillies: I would be suspicious of anyone listing a suggested lumen output for that strain. It is completely irrelevant to a plants photobiological requirements. If you have the proper PAR intensities and spectrums, as measured in the PFFD which would be far more appropriate information to manage the DLI it won't matter what lamp source you're using as long as the DLI saturation is met. That being said you should look for PAR readings, measured by a quantum meter, in the 200-300 uMoles at veg and 700+ uMoles @ flower. Growers should never reference a visual value like lumens which a standard photometer reads for the spectral sensitivity (the luminosity function) of human visual perception of brightness.
just sayin
Thanks dawg/good vibes your way
DAY 59...............1&2View attachment 2273743View attachment 2273746View attachment 2273747View attachment 2273748View attachment 2273750.......watered both with bacteria/aerated tap..............fan leaves still falling and it's becoming evident that I also have light deprivation symptoms............got some scraps of Orca that I traded for some beers.........will add more loop stakes and try to get more light onto these bitches(by reflective means)..........be safe and happy growing RIU