Business told to either give up their religion or give up their business

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UncleBuck

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Also I was offended when you said all those nasty things about his mom and sister.
that must be why you're totally stalking words, srh88, samwellseedwell, and everyone else who took part in that trollathon.

you're so fucking dumb it hurts. and the shitty thing is that it's only amusing about 3% of the time. otherwise it's just creepy homo-obsessive.
 

Dr Kynes

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Aint gonna drive them out of business
The fine is probably a lot cheaper than the half assed insurance they are carrying anyways
well as long as they PROBABLY might save money by only paying the fee/fine/tax/voluntary remuneration/penalty for not volunteering, then thats ok.

we should institute a maximum pay scale for small businesses too, so the owners dont enrich themselves at the expense of their workers. as long as it PROBABLY wont mean they lose their house and car, and have to send their kids to public school.

we could also institute the death penalty with the caveat that the convicted should be found PROBABLY guilty.
 

Dr Kynes

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The Sharia's? American citizens? I must look into it and maybe if you stop for a second and remember how much taxes the catholics with all their land/wealth Should be paying in taxes compared to the taxes it pays.

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Thomas Jefferson
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LETTERS
"Eternal Hostility"
To Dr. Benjamin Rush
(September 23, 1800)

I promised you a letter on Christianity, which I have not forgotten. On the contrary, it is because I have reflected on it, that I find much more time necessary for it than I can at present dispose of. I have a view of the subject which ought to displease neither the rational Christian nor Deists, and would reconcile many to a character they have too hastily rejected. I do not know that it would reconcile the genus irritabile vatum who are all in arms against me. Their hostility is on too interesting ground to be softened. The delusion into which the X.Y.Z. plot shewed it possible to push the people; the successful experiment made under the prevalence of that delusion on the clause of the constitution, which, while it secured the freedom of the press, covered also the freedom of religion, had given to the clergy a very favorite hope of obtaining an establishment of a particular form of Christianity thro' the U.S.; and as every sect believes its own form the true one, every one perhaps hoped for his own, but especially the Episcopalians & Congregationalists. The returning good sense of our country threatens abortion to their hopes, & they believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. But this is all they have to fear from me: & enough too in their opinion, & this is the cause of their printing lying pamphlets against me, forging conversations for me with Mazzei, Bishop Madison, &c., which are absolute falsehoods without a circumstance of truth to rest on; falsehoods, too, of which I acquit Mazzei & Bishop Madison, for they are men of truth.

This letter clearly states that freedom of religion was a compromise, I forgot it was press, likely cause we haven't had that one in decades or in my lifetime.
should we also include the private letters of Button Gwinnett in our code of laws and and our lex publicus?

what about Nathan Bedford Forrest? how deep shall we go in the inclusion of extra-constitutional letters and opinions from other persons of the time? perhaps the commentary of Loius the 16th might enlighten us as well.after all he did help us win our freedom from the british crown.
 

Rob Roy

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So he makes sure that all his employees are denied coverage in their insurance plans for contraceptives

Of course they are not pushing their religion onto their employees
...right?
In a truly free private business, employees have the right to contract for employment or not. Neither employee or employer should be held captive to a third party edict, each should be free to associate or not on terms they agree to. Failing that there is no such thing as freedom of association.

The mandate of insurance is a third party edict foisted upon people under the threat of force, at the root of it severs freedom of choice. It is the same "logic" government uses to enforce the drug war, that THEY not YOU can make decisions about your body, your property and your life.
 

ChesusRice

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In a truly free private business, employees have the right to contract for employment or not. Neither employee or employer should be held captive to a third party edict, each should be free to associate or not on terms they agree to. Failing that there is no such thing as freedom of association.

The mandate of insurance is a third party edict foisted upon people under the threat of force,
at the root of it severs freedom of choice. It is the same "logic" government uses to enforce the drug war, that THEY not YOU can make decisions about your body, your property and your life.
Bravo

Up armor get some firearms and muntitions
The revolution is coming
 

UncleBuck

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Nice edit Uncle Pervy. Actually this is what I said:



You failed again ​Snitch.
so, you're supposedly offended by the memes we made about jizzing on his mom and sister, so you don't say a word to the guy with an avatar about jizzing on his sister?

your lying skills need serious help, sistah. now tell us about how you're so not harboring latent homosexual feelings and obsessively follow me around like a little bitch.
 

Red1966

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I still don't get it - these folk "just want to be left alone" and they believe in personal responsibility. So they offer something they don't agree with in an insurance policy - but they don't believe that people should have a choice, they don't really believe in personal responsibility at all do they? and they don't really just want to be left alone, they want to enforce their religion on others. Now what is the difference between this and company run by a group who are hard core dominionists - who believe that we have dominion over the earth and so we can if we wish pollute the air and water. This company produced electricity and they burn coal but they refuse to put scrubbers in their stacks because it is against their religion - is that ok? Is it ok to grant them an advantage in the marketplace because their religion exempts them from protecting the commons?
Your first statement is misdirection. They're not forcing their employees to use or not use contraceptives. They just refuse to subsidize it. Your second statement is totally irrelevant.
 

Red1966

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Government makes birth control coverage manditory, they cannot get an insurance policy that does not have that inclusion. This is not about insurance company or pharma profits, it is about and strictly about commerce.
No, it's about religion. More misdirection. Why do you state EVERY controversy in false terms? Why are you so dishonest? Is it because you prey upon the weak-minded the Democratic Party targets? Are you going to tell us that treating people differently based on the color of their skin is not discriminatory because you're trying to make them "more equal"?
 

Red1966

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No comparison. If the regulations apply differenlty between those with religious reasons for not doing a thing and other companies then government is not being fair to all. The only way they might be is if they insisted that no business is to provide birth control for anyone.
Misdirection, also absurd.
 

UncleBuck

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Are you going to tell us that treating people differently based on the color of their skin is not discriminatory because you're trying to make them "more equal"?
lol, typical stormfront talking point.

check off "special rights!" on the tea party bingo square.
 

UncleBuck

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When he said he called the cops for you I knew he was joking and acted accordingly. He is not the one that posted the other user's info or the number to the cops like your snitching ass did !

Snitch
i love how you pretend to be offended at these memes while you call people faggots and niggers.

you're so fucking dumb it hurts. get some new material.
 

Red1966

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I can't disagree. If it is a given then we have to work with it don't we? How about we start by limiting the power of those industries, maybe by not letting them contribute money to political action groups or not being able to do it quietly? Beyond that, the point I am trying to make is that conservatives are claiming that this is an infringement on our 1st Amendment rights when it is no such thing.
Shouldn't we then also ban union contributions? And of course it's an infringement on our first amendment rights. Denying that is just lying.
 
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