Time To Get Rid of Concealed Carry Bans?

beenthere

New Member
You are wrong
They are all tactical
A hand gun is something you use in an emergency to get to your rifle or shotgun

And IMHO
Skip the slug
unnessary overkill
and you have more chances of missing
Although a HIT would be pretty devastating
You keep your hunting rifles and shotguns, until they make them to fit in my nightstand, I'll take a 45ACP for home protection over a shotgun or rifle any day of the week.
 

budlover13

King Tut
You keep your hunting rifles and shotguns, until they make them to fit in my nightstand, I'll take a 45ACP for home protection over a shotgun or rifle any day of the week.
While i totally agree with you as to the efficacy of the 45, if in a home defense situation, i'd prefer a tactical shotgun (although it doesn't fit under a pillow very well) :)
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
While i totally agree with you as to the efficacy of the 45, if in a home defense situation, i'd prefer a tactical shotgun (although it doesn't fit under a pillow very well) :)
Funny thing
Years ago I tried sleeping with a gun under my pillow
Never worked
All night I stayed awake thinking about
What if I have a dream and reach for the gun

So I put it in my nightstand

Then i thought
Well what if I have a dream and reach into the nightstand

Then I thought about it
and figured

You know what. If someone makes it to the bedroom it's allready too late

So now what I got is on the bedroom door

You can have anything you want on the first floor
It's all yours
Start coming up the stairs though and it's game over
 

budlover13

King Tut
Funny thing
Years ago I tried sleeping with a gun under my pillow
Never worked
All night I stayed awake thinking about
What if I have a dream and reach for the gun

So I put it in my nightstand

Then i thought
Well what if I have a dream and reach into the nightstand

Then I thought about it
and figured

You know what. If someone makes it to the bedroom it's allready too late

So now what I got is on the bedroom door

You can have anything you want on the first floor
It's all yours
Start coming up the stairs though and it's game over
For me, a gun under the pillow is the cause for waking several times during the night. Every time i touch it, i wake up. Sometimes it is my hand on it under the pillow, sometimes a shoulder, and occasionally a cheek. But to the best of my knowledge, if it's touched, i wake. i also have my Remington 12 ga by the bed. Either one works for me. My wife can attest to the fact that if a sudden noise, movement, or otherwise uncomfortable situation occurs, my handgun comes out. She didn't get shot, but she has seen the business end. She lets me know when she wakes up :)
 

Wolfhound

Active Member
why do you have to be a non felon
Is that in the constitution?
Why YES it is ! Thanks for asking ! Check into the Supreme Court opinions . . .

I'm guessing you have to be a non felon to protect others in society. They cannot carry ANY deadly weapons, that's the law in America as well if I'm not mistaken.
 

beenthere

New Member
While i totally agree with you as to the efficacy of the 45, if in a home defense situation, i'd prefer a tactical shotgun (although it doesn't fit under a pillow very well) :)
I have a Spas 12 in my bedroom closet, for years I thought it was the ultimate in home protection.
But I can reach into my nightstand drawer and grab my Sig and an extra clip so much faster it's not even close.
Everyone is different I guess, what ever works for you is best, but I'd hate to be on the receiving end of either of them. LOL
 

budlover13

King Tut
I have a Spas 12 in my bedroom closet, for years I thought it was the ultimate in home protection.
But I can reach into my nightstand drawer and grab my Sig and an extra clip so much faster it's not even close.
Everyone is different I guess, what ever works for you is best, but I'd hate to be on the receiving end of either of them. LOL
What i like about a tactical shotgun (or preferably a "modified barrel" shotgun) is the fact that while i'm VERY confident in my aim, my 12 year old son or my wife can pick it up, point it, pull the trigger, and likely hit their target. Also, i disagree with whoever discounted the psychological impact of a shotgun racking a round. There was a reason we were trained to key the PA mic while racking a round on a felony stop.

i have literally seen HUGE grown men drop to their knees upon hearing that sound.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Why YES it is ! Thanks for asking ! Check into the Supreme Court opinions . . .

I'm guessing you have to be a non felon to protect others in society. They cannot carry ANY deadly weapons, that's the law in America as well if I'm not mistaken.
Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Sorry, you may be right in theory but our law is defined by Supreme Court Decisions. You just cannot let a mentally insane killer keep getting guns even though their right is infringed...
District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), was a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects an individual's right to possess a firearm for traditionally lawful purposes in federal enclaves, such as self-defense within the home. The decision did not address the question of whether the Second Amendment extends beyond federal enclaves to the states,[SUP][1][/SUP] which was addressed later by McDonald v. Chicago (2010). It was the first Supreme Court case in United States history to decide whether the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms.[SUP][2][/SUP]
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Sorry, you may be right in theory but our law is defined by Supreme Court Decisions. You just cannot let a mentally insane killer keep getting guns even though their right is infringed...
McDonald v. Chicago, 130 S. Ct. 3020 (2010), was a landmark[SUP][1][/SUP] decision of the Supreme Court of the United States that determined whether the Second Amendment applies to the individual states. The Court held that the right of an individual to "keep and bear arms" protected by the Second Amendment is incorporated by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and applies to the states. The decision cleared up the uncertainty left in the wake of District of Columbia v. Heller as to the scope of gun rights in regard to the states.
 

Wolfhound

Active Member
Yes, that was in the decision but read on & understand what the Supreme Court said in their opinion(s) on the ruling towards the right to possibly rule in the future on other questions towards the ammendment. Supreme Court Judge Scolia (sp) recently repeated in an on camera interview . . .


I am on your side & don't like it one bit . . . This Supreme Court seems to want to rewrite the Constitution, sucks
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Yes, that was in the decision but read on & understand what the Supreme Court said in their opinion(s) on the ruling towards the right to possibly rule in the future on other questions towards the ammendment. Supreme Court Judge Scolia (sp) recently repeated in an on camera interview . . .


I am on your side & don't like it one bit . . . This Supreme Court seems to want to rewrite the Constitution, sucks
Need a case to come up before one of the right leaning judges gets replaced
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Anyone ever read a 4473?

That means anyone here who has admitted smoking pot
Would be violating the law by purchasing a gun
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Yep. And we all know that courts have also upheld the "creative" side of internet posting.
I very much enjoy the role playing here
In real life im just some middle age guy who never violates any laws

This site lets me bring out my ficticious dark side
 

budlover13

King Tut
I very much enjoy the role playing here
In real life im just some middle age guy who never violates any laws

This site lets me bring out my ficticious dark side
Me too. My "fictitious" internet personality let's me relieve so much stress it is a medical benefit for me :bigjoint:
 

beardo

Well-Known Member
Sorry, you may be right in theory but our law is defined by Supreme Court Decisions. You just cannot let a mentally insane killer keep getting guns even though their right is infringed...
Why shouldn't every citizen be entitled to rights?
Do laws keep insane killers from getting guns?
 
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