Dr Kynes
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i think you mean Second Curse...
if ireland legalizes weed, and lets me keep my guns ill immigrate there quicker than shit.
saw a 99% and Obama bumper sticker on the same car
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if ireland legalizes weed, and lets me keep my guns ill immigrate there quicker than shit.
Harrekin
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Yeah good luck, the people here are great but it's a TOTAL nanny state...not even our cops have guns.i think you mean Second Curse...
if ireland legalizes weed, and lets me keep my guns ill immigrate there quicker than shit.
canndo
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i think you mean Second Curse...
if ireland legalizes weed, and lets me keep my guns ill immigrate there quicker than shit.
What makes you think they will have you Doc? You might have to sneak into the country and then use their socialist medicine and maybe you will even have to get fake id to vote there.
Dr Kynes
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ireland has quite a lot of immigration these days. with a sufficient tan i make a passable mexican. and denying a mexican's immigration status is racist.
Harrekin
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Most of our immigration is from within the EU or from the African continent (due to our fail sauce asylum system).
Not too many Mexicans tho
InCognition
Active Member
They can tax you. What do you think back taxes, and tax penalties are? In America, you generally can not escape taxes if you plan on having any sort of a life. Sure you can file bankruptcy and clear the taxes, but that is not the most ideal solution to not paying taxes.
Secondly, they (the government) doesn't need to put a gun to your head, their officials just show up in numbers and force you into a cage, when you don't pay those affiliated taxes (if caught).
If you try to defend yourself against a mob of government officials who are trying to jail you for back taxes, you get further criminal charges, which results in more time spent in a cage. Gun to your head or not, you are being forced with force.
So you can either pay the bogus taxes the government continues to implement and sustain, or you can be forced into financial ruin and/or wind up in a cage. Do you know what coercion is? Must not...
Dr Kynes
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la inmigración de Irlanda es injusta para los mexicanos como yo!Most of our immigration is from within the EU or from the African continent (due to our fail sauce asylum system).
Not too many Mexicans tho
quizá un poco de sabor al suroeste mejorará el lamentable estado de la cocina irlandesa.
Ven a mis hermanos chicano! vamos a recuperar nuestra patria ancestral de estos intrusos gaélico y restablecer nuestras demandas históricas de nuestra patria perdida del este de Aztlán!
canndo
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Back to that fine old narrative "the bad old government will put you in a cage if you don't pay your taxes". Except that is not done. You always have a choice, nor will you get "further charges" for defending yourself in court. You are not being cohersed into an agreement with your employer and the federal government that some of the monies paid you are to be held back or kept in order that you pay your share of the money it takes to maintain this country.
Dr Kynes
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refusing to pay taxes, any taxes will result in criminal charges for fraud, or contempt of court charges,, and eventually prison time, or a reckless shootout with federal agents.
or do you pretend the government will simply smile and wave you through if you decline to pay taxes? yo cant be that naive.
al capone didnt go to jail for racketeering, murders or criminal enterprises, he went to prison for not paying his taxes on said enterprises.
al capone. prison. tax evasion. that ruins your assertion right there. refusal to pay taxes whether through fraud or open disobedience can does and WILL result in prison time.
they dont go to all that trouble over a parking ticket (of which only $25 is a fine, the rest is fees, assessments and "use taxes") but when the ticket remains unpaid for long enough, and the "not quite a fine" is big enough a bench warrant will be issued, and if upon showing up in shackles before the bench you say "I aint paying that shit" then you WILL be bundled up neatly and shipped off to the nearest convenient prison.
canndo
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Refusal to pay your taxes is not fraud and it is unlikely to result in contempt of court. I am one who refused to pay my duely assessed taxes, I didn't go to jail, I was not harrassed and I am far from naive, in fact because I managed to hold out through the statute of limitations, I paid nothing of the 40k I was assessed (before penalties and interest). Capone went to jail for failure to report - that is fraud. Most times, your failure to pay your parking ticket will result in impound of your vehicle.
I know that many really really want to portray their government as so nasty that they will throw you in jail for not paying taxes but it rarely if ever works that way.
Rob Roy
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How did Obama spend the money he stole from you ? He bombed children and jailed pot smokers.
Dr Kynes
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now if only he would jail children and get pot smokers bombed....
InCognition
Active Member
You will go to jail at some point if you refuse to pay taxes, then mysteriously pay nothing of the taxes you're due, then refuse to pay the interest and penalties on those taxes you originally refused to pay. To think that you won't wind up in a cage somewhere during this process is naive.
While it may not happen the majority of the time that people are thrown in jail instantly, for tax reasons. A complete refusal to follow through regarding the taxes you refuse to pay, and all their affiliated monetary obligations, you will absolutely end up in a cage. The only sure way not to end up in a cage if you completely refuse against a tax and it's other affiliated obligations, is filing bankruptcy. Bankruptcy does not land you in the best of positions either.
I've already, previously addressed you regarding taxes and their affiliation with "maintaining" this country. To reiterate myself, if the foundation of a tax is not ethical, it's simply not a tax. It's just glorified theft with the title of a tax. Example would be a tax implemented, to financially aid people in quitting smoking. That's not an ethical tax, it's just plain ignorance, and as such is theft, rather than some hocus-pocus "maintenance" tax.
Now I'm sure there may possibly be a financial benefit in such a tax, but the foundation of the tax is purely unethical. As such it should never be a tax to begin with. Taxes like this are being implemented more as time goes on.It's like a cop murdering someone, then arresting people for murder as a job, it just makes no fucking sense any way you look at it... same with some current, and soon-to-be taxes... they just make no fucking sense any way you look at them, because their foundation is illogical.
nontheist
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Ask "Al" Capone if you cannot be jailed for taxes.
canndo
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No, you won't. There is nothing naive about that, there is still no debtor's prison in the United States and you cannot go to jail for oweing mney save to employees or for child support. We have not come to any sort of agreement about your ideas regarding those taxes and you have not managed to make your point to me. As I have previously pointed out, I refused to pay and was not "thrown in jail" even though I did not pay for 7 years (8 actually as there were two years I did not pay what was due).
Again, the foundation of taxation is funding the establishment and preservation of order, order that you enjoy and there is no theft in society demanding that you contribute.
ginwilly
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Wesley Snipes says hi
nontheist
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Sorry I didn't get that....
canndo
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Ask Al Capone if he filed tax whole and honest tax returns, He went to jail for tax evasion and tax fraud, not failure to pay.
canndo
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nontheist
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yeah but that's being pretty hypocritical on a pot growing forum, he was found guilty because of not reporting an illegal activity yes? Tax evasion is very easy to get my friend