How long till the next US war??

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
I just had some fun Googling "obese vegan". cn
Did you find stuff like Oprah eating a meat burger when she said beef is bad? I never heard of a fat vegan who has been one for years. I personally can't seem to consume calories faster than they're burned. I used to be a fat meat eater too.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Did you find stuff like Oprah eating a meat burger when she said beef is bad? I never heard of a fat vegan who has been one for years. I personally can't seem to consume calories faster than they're burned. I used to be a fat meat eater too.
No actually. That would disqualify from veganism imo.

The big problem is that Americans have been told since time immemorial that dietary fat is bad. The prototypical "healthy" low-fat, high-carb diet proves to be atherogenic, diabetogenic and conducive to weight gain. The science behind this, and its successful suppression by interested aprties within the biomedical community, makes for an interesting read. cn
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Do you actually think that the GOP is not in favor of it's own version of a nanny state? A place where you can't smoke pot because it is bad for you and if a woman gets pregnant she has to be given reading materials or be invaded with needless proceedures designed to keep her from having an abortion? Oh you can't have a computer that might be able to view internet porn, that has to stop because the GOP knows what is best for your very soul.

And do you actually think the GOP has no PC proceedures? It isn't PC if you don't thank that soldier over there for his service. It isn't PC if you happen to say that the state may have had some influence in your sucess, It isn't PC if you don't wear a flag lapel or you don't put your hand over your heart at the playing of the national anthem. Don't kid yourself, PC is not the exclusive domain of the left and neither is that nanny state you are so leary of.
You make an excellent argument to get rid of those who seek to control others. Politics is just the sleight of hand used to make you think you have a choice. Both Coke or Pepsi will rot your teeth.
 

Trolling

New Member
Yeah I know he has a slim chance of winning but may as well vote and when he doesn't then I can say
I told you so.
 

smok3y1

Active Member
Get me the quote please where it Ahmadinejad has said he wants to wipe Israel off the map. And the sanctions were enforced by the US and UK if they didn’t want sanctions on Iraq there would be none.

And yes the Libyan people that overthrew Gaddafi were puppets maybe not the small foot soldiers but the people at the top were.

And you’ve not even read the Qu’ran show me the quote where it says the testimony of a non-Muslim in court is worthless. And am talking about the Qu’ran not fatwa’s moron because anyone can give a fatwa.

Also the quote your referring to is when the US didn’t provide evidence they could not force him to leave Afghanistan because no evidence was provided therefore they could only ask for him to leave. If however they did provide evidence they could have handed him over or tried him in Afghanistan where the punishment would have been death for killing innocent civilians.

And why do you even attempt to twist my words. I never said ‘osama bin laden's own words and his own database of terrorists and money launderers is all faked by the wicked sinful CIA’

I said the video where he confesses is fake. The CIA have admitted making fake videos of him so it’s much more plausible. Also in his own words just after 9/11 he said he said he was not responsible.

You don’t even know anything about the Al Saud regime. Its perfectly okay to overthrow them because they are another puppet oppressive regime. They was provided with weapons and money by the British after WW1 and are protected today by the US. Also why is there hardly a mention about the protests that are going on in Saudi Arabia? Also show me the verse in the Qu’ran where it says it’s okay to kill innocent children or non-Muslims.

Nope I don’t believe Mahdi is living in some cave in fact nearly all Muslims don’t believe that it’s only a tiny minority but of course people like you like to generalize on over 1.5 billion people. The muddy water verse you’re referring to is about what Dhul-Qarnayn saw:
18:86 (Asad) [And he marched westwards] till, when he came to the setting of the sun, [SUP][84][/SUP] it appeared to him that it was setting in a dark, turbid sea; [SUP][85][/SUP] and nearby he found a people [given to every kind of wrongdoing]. We said: "O thou Two-Horned One! Thou mayest either cause [them] to suffer or treat them with kindness!" [SUP][86][/SUP] –
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
[video=youtube;8y06NSBBRtY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY[/video]

I think a better question would be how long until the US is NOT at war.
 

Mr Neutron

Well-Known Member
No actually. That would disqualify from veganism imo.

The big problem is that Americans have been told since time immemorial that dietary fat is bad. The prototypical "healthy" low-fat, high-carb diet proves to be atherogenic, diabetogenic and conducive to weight gain. The science behind this, and its successful suppression by interested aprties within the biomedical community, makes for an interesting read. cn
Could you provide a link, please? I'd like to read that.
 

smok3y1

Active Member
i'm currently reading the book Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes. It's pretty amazing. cn
Just read the description of that book and seems very interesting. Think I need to pay a visit to Amazon.
Edit: Found an Audio book online
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Get me the quote please where it Ahmadinejad has said he wants to wipe Israel off the map. And the sanctions were enforced by the US and UK if they didn’t want sanctions on Iraq there would be none.

And yes the Libyan people that overthrew Gaddafi were puppets maybe not the small foot soldiers but the people at the top were.

And you’ve not even read the Qu’ran show me the quote where it says the testimony of a non-Muslim in court is worthless. And am talking about the Qu’ran not fatwa’s moron because anyone can give a fatwa.

Also the quote your referring to is when the US didn’t provide evidence they could not force him to leave Afghanistan because no evidence was provided therefore they could only ask for him to leave. If however they did provide evidence they could have handed him over or tried him in Afghanistan where the punishment would have been death for killing innocent civilians.

And why do you even attempt to twist my words. I never said ‘osama bin laden's own words and his own database of terrorists and money launderers is all faked by the wicked sinful CIA’

I said the video where he confesses is fake. The CIA have admitted making fake videos of him so it’s much more plausible. Also in his own words just after 9/11 he said he said he was not responsible.

You don’t even know anything about the Al Saud regime. Its perfectly okay to overthrow them because they are another puppet oppressive regime. They was provided with weapons and money by the British after WW1 and are protected today by the US. Also why is there hardly a mention about the protests that are going on in Saudi Arabia? Also show me the verse in the Qu’ran where it says it’s okay to kill innocent children or non-Muslims.

Nope I don’t believe Mahdi is living in some cave in fact nearly all Muslims don’t believe that it’s only a tiny minority but of course people like you like to generalize on over 1.5 billion people. The muddy water verse you’re referring to is about what Dhul-Qarnayn saw:
18:86 (Asad) [And he marched westwards] till, when he came to the setting of the sun, [SUP][84][/SUP] it appeared to him that it was setting in a dark, turbid sea; [SUP][85][/SUP] and nearby he found a people [given to every kind of wrongdoing]. We said: "O thou Two-Horned One! Thou mayest either cause [them] to suffer or treat them with kindness!" [SUP][86][/SUP] –
this is the last time i shall bother responding to your lies.

ahemdinejhad on israel and the putative map wiping. read it if you dare.

http://www.jcpa.org/text/ahmadinejad2-words.pdf

on the words of a kaffir being inadmissible in a sharia court, the reader would see that the discussion of the admissibility of kaffir and dhimmi testimony is found in NUMEROUS FATWAS and the sharia court rules themselves. i didnt even mention the testimony of women, particularly in sexual offenses. thats why theres no Sharia Law and Order Special Victims Unit. only whores who receive lashes,, or stonings for the sin of allowing themselves to be raped. or am i making that up too? the koran itself is mute on the subject of whether kaffir and dhimmi are even allowed access to the courts. playing the word games doesnt work. see your little clique isnt special. the torah is also a book that purports to be the words of the god of the jews, and the talmud is the laws that surround it. US courts give no special respect to talmudic law, and no special status to sharia law. jews accept this, your little band of ne'er-do-wells do not. but then jews (even the orthodox and hasidim) have learned to live in peace with their otherwise affiliated neighbors. this is a stark contrast to moslems fundamentalists. curiously even goyim and gentiles are allowed access to talmudic courts, and israel has a very progressive court system in which all persons have a voice, even moslems. nice try.

you asserted and still do assert that bin laden was not the source of funding, and main facilitator of the 911 attacks as well as several other attacks on civilian targets. this is a lie. i dont have to twist your words, your words come pre-twisted. nobody believes the new post-modernist assertion that osama was an innocent victim of US prejudice, nor that he was simply a peaceful activist for justice. only a dimwit would believe that.

the house of ibn saud is no more a puppet of the US and the Brits than mexico's ruling PRI party. if the US were such masters of manipulation, why is mexico once again run by the socialist members of the comintern from the PRI? your wild speculations and baseless ramblings are less coherent than David Icke's. not even a nice try, that's pure tin foil hat action.

i never said all moslems believe that shit, i said the Twelfth Imamers do.

regarding your specious claims about the sun setting in a muddy pool, bite down on this noise:

[h=2]Surah al-Kahf 83-101[/h]Translation (Yusuf Ali)

83. They ask thee concerning Zul-qarnain. Say, “I will rehearse to you something of his story.”
84. Verily We established his power on earth, and We gave him the ways and the means to all ends.
85. One (such) way he followed,
86. Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: “O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness.”
87. He said: “Whoever doth wrong, him shall we punish; then shall he be sent back to his Lord; and He will punish him with a punishment unheard-of (before).
88. “But whoever believes, and works righteousness,- he shall have a goodly reward, and easy will be his task as We order it by our Command.”
89. Then followed he (another) way,
90. Until, when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had provided no covering protection against the sun.
91. (He left them) as they were: We completely understood what was before him.
92. Then followed he (another) way,
93. Until, when he reached (a tract) between two mountains, he found, beneath them, a people who scarcely understood a word.
94. They said: “O Zul-qarnain! the Gog and Magog (People) do great mischief on earth: shall we then render thee tribute in order that thou mightest erect a barrier between us and them?
95. He said: “(The power) in which my Lord has established me is better (than tribute): Help me therefore with strength (and labour): I will erect a strong barrier between you and them:
96. “Bring me blocks of iron.” At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides, He said, “Blow (with your bellows)” Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: “Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead.”
97. Thus were they made powerless to scale it or to dig through it.
98. He said: “This is a mercy from my Lord: But when the promise of my Lord comes to pass, He will make it into dust; and the promise of my Lord is true.”
99. On that day We shall leave them to surge like waves on one another: the trumpet will be blown, and We shall collect them all together.
100. And We shall present Hell that day for Unbelievers to see, all spread out,-
101. (Unbelievers) whose eyes had been under a veil from remembrance of Me, and who had been unable even to hear. ~source: the koran.

i guess im making that up or taking it out of context.

im done with you.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Get me the quote please where it Ahmadinejad has said he wants to wipe Israel off the map. And the sanctions were enforced by the US and UK if they didn’t want sanctions on Iraq there would be none.

And yes the Libyan people that overthrew Gaddafi were puppets maybe not the small foot soldiers but the people at the top were.

And you’ve not even read the Qu’ran show me the quote where it says the testimony of a non-Muslim in court is worthless. And am talking about the Qu’ran not fatwa’s moron because anyone can give a fatwa.

Also the quote your referring to is when the US didn’t provide evidence they could not force him to leave Afghanistan because no evidence was provided therefore they could only ask for him to leave. If however they did provide evidence they could have handed him over or tried him in Afghanistan where the punishment would have been death for killing innocent civilians.

And why do you even attempt to twist my words. I never said ‘osama bin laden's own words and his own database of terrorists and money launderers is all faked by the wicked sinful CIA’

I said the video where he confesses is fake. The CIA have admitted making fake videos of him so it’s much more plausible. Also in his own words just after 9/11 he said he said he was not responsible.

You don’t even know anything about the Al Saud regime. Its perfectly okay to overthrow them because they are another puppet oppressive regime. They was provided with weapons and money by the British after WW1 and are protected today by the US. Also why is there hardly a mention about the protests that are going on in Saudi Arabia? Also show me the verse in the Qu’ran where it says it’s okay to kill innocent children or non-Muslims.

Nope I don’t believe Mahdi is living in some cave in fact nearly all Muslims don’t believe that it’s only a tiny minority but of course people like you like to generalize on over 1.5 billion people. The muddy water verse you’re referring to is about what Dhul-Qarnayn saw:
18:86 (Asad) [And he marched westwards] till, when he came to the setting of the sun, [SUP][84][/SUP] it appeared to him that it was setting in a dark, turbid sea; [SUP][85][/SUP] and nearby he found a people [given to every kind of wrongdoing]. We said: "O thou Two-Horned One! Thou mayest either cause [them] to suffer or treat them with kindness!" [SUP][86][/SUP] –
this is the last time i shall bother responding to your lies.

ahemdinejhad on israel and the putative map wiping. read it if you dare.

http://www.jcpa.org/text/ahmadinejad2-words.pdf

on the words of a kaffir being inadmissible in a sharia court, the reader would see that the discussion of the admissibility of kaffir and dhimmi testimony is found in NUMEROUS FATWAS and the sharia court rules themselves. i didnt even mention the testimony of women, particularly in sexual offenses. thats why theres no Sharia Law and Order Special Victims Unit. only whores who receive lashes,, or stonings for the sin of allowing themselves to be raped. or am i making that up too? the koran itself is mute on the subject of whether kaffir and dhimmi are even allowed access to the courts. playing the word games doesnt work. see your little clique isnt special. the torah is also a book that purports to be the words of the god of the jews, and the talmud is the laws that surround it. US courts give no special respect to talmudic law, and no special status to sharia law. jews accept this, your little band of ne'er-do-wells do not. but then jews (even the orthodox and hasidim) have learned to live in peace with their otherwise affiliated neighbors. this is a stark contrast to moslems fundamentalists. curiously even goyim and gentiles are allowed access to talmudic courts, and israel has a very progressive court system in which all persons have a voice, even moslems. nice try.

you asserted and still do assert that bin laden was not the source of funding, and main facilitator of the 911 attacks as well as several other attacks on civilian targets. this is a lie. i dont have to twist your words, your words come pre-twisted. nobody believes the new post-modernist assertion that osama was an innocent victim of US prejudice, nor that he was simply a peaceful activist for justice. only a dimwit would believe that.

the house of ibn saud is no more a puppet of the US and the Brits than mexico's ruling PRI party. if the US were such masters of manipulation, why is mexico once again run by the socialist members of the comintern from the PRI? your wild speculations and baseless ramblings are less coherent than David Icke's. not even a nice try, that's pure tin foil hat action.

pertaining to the "twelfth imam", i never said all moslems believe that shit, i said the Twelfth Imamers do. not all christians believe in the rapture either, nor in the literal transmutation of wine into blood, or bread into human flesh. only the wackos believe wacky shit.

regarding your specious claims about the sun setting in a muddy pool, bite down on this noise:

Surah al-Kahf 83-101

Translation (Yusuf Ali)

83. They ask thee concerning Zul-qarnain. Say, “I will rehearse to you something of his story.”
84. Verily We established his power on earth, and We gave him the ways and the means to all ends.
85. One (such) way he followed,
86. Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: “O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness.”
87. He said: “Whoever doth wrong, him shall we punish; then shall he be sent back to his Lord; and He will punish him with a punishment unheard-of (before).
88. “But whoever believes, and works righteousness,- he shall have a goodly reward, and easy will be his task as We order it by our Command.”
89. Then followed he (another) way,
90. Until, when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had provided no covering protection against the sun.
91. (He left them) as they were: We completely understood what was before him.
92. Then followed he (another) way,
93. Until, when he reached (a tract) between two mountains, he found, beneath them, a people who scarcely understood a word.
94. They said: “O Zul-qarnain! the Gog and Magog (People) do great mischief on earth: shall we then render thee tribute in order that thou mightest erect a barrier between us and them?
95. He said: “(The power) in which my Lord has established me is better (than tribute): Help me therefore with strength (and labour): I will erect a strong barrier between you and them:
96. “Bring me blocks of iron.” At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides, He said, “Blow (with your bellows)” Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: “Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead.”
97. Thus were they made powerless to scale it or to dig through it.
98. He said: “This is a mercy from my Lord: But when the promise of my Lord comes to pass, He will make it into dust; and the promise of my Lord is true.”
99. On that day We shall leave them to surge like waves on one another: the trumpet will be blown, and We shall collect them all together.
100. And We shall present Hell that day for Unbelievers to see, all spread out,-
101. (Unbelievers) whose eyes had been under a veil from remembrance of Me, and who had been unable even to hear. ~source: the koran.

i guess im making that up or taking it out of context.

im done with you.
 
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