And they say the same thing about you. Also he shows without a doubt that scientific text books in our schools "DO" have point blank lies perpetrated by scientist. Its not an opinion its a fact! I don't believe in god or any of the young earth shit he says but he proves that people have real reasons to believe they way they do and scientist can be just as fanatical as the religious even to the point of making shit up. I don't like the guy but he sure did make a name for himself debating scientist and professors and you know why? He could challenge them, otherwise he would never have gotten in the doors of major universities. He did it with real scientific data and many times made laughing stocks out of some very intelligent people. Not bad for a guy who doesn't understand the basic science that he taught for 15 years.
That's actually a pretty serious accusation and I don't think you could actually prove it, let's say using the legal standard of reasonable doubt, no wait, let's use the less stringent - preponderance of evidence. IOW, back it up or else start getting used to people putting you in the same category of proven liar, Hovind.
Now some ground rules. In order to determine whether an untrue statement is a lie, you will have to demonstrate it was,
a) done purposely and maliciously
b) not merely a speculation but presented as an real hypothesis
c) is known or even could have been easily known to be untrue by the textbook author. Which leads to another point which would be you would also need to demonstrate it wasn't a pure mistake, which does happen, especially when an editor attempts to change things and the author doesn't get to proof the changes, because there have been instances of this reported.
d) I think you need to stick to actual US based textbooks intended for actual science students and actually written by a scientist, or demonstrate that a certain untruth has been systemically used by multiple textbooks, otherwise I think you could hedge by using actual creationist textbooks that are known to contain factual errors, specifically meant to deceive a student.*
e) I think it goes without saying that I won't accept a second hand account of what a textbook says unless it isn't in dispute. IOW, don't expect me to believe a creationist website that claims a textbook says something unless it's verified. This gives me a chance to make sure you don't use the routine creationist tactic of quote mining where removing a statement from context or creative editing changes the intended meaning. Of course point 'a' should cover that, but I figure it can't hurt to be thorough on the rules as it actually might save YOU some time if you man up adnd accept this challenge.
Which brings me to offering this as a bet since you seem pretty damn sure of yourself. We can use bitcoin or some other anonymous method if you have one. The only thing I am not sure of is judging or referee. Obviously a neutral party, maybe a committee but I think the honor system could work if you agree to the rules. .
If you accept the bet, you can do so without putting any money at risk, just honor, or you can offer anything up to $1000 due to the limitations of payment.
* That would be disingenuous of you but if I don't state such a thing formally, you could 'technically' win and since I personally am willing to bet money on this and actually used to specifying rules of such bets frequently and I'm pretty high right now, I sort of forgot I haven't actually made a bet but I was going through my analysis using critical thinking... as I do for all of my bets, because critical thinking and logic (including formalized logic like math) actually work and have made me a decent amount of money. Interesting how even in those arenas I consistently do better than punters that rely on intuition, luck, god, etc. I guess you could say I am pretty confident in logic and reason and I have empirical evidence that it is better in ALL ways than faith. I guess you could say I have faith in not using faith to guide me and humanity. Equivocation can be funny sometimes.
That shit is fucking comical man, I dont care what anyone says. Im not the only one to point out his arrogant attitude either, its not only me who shares this opinion. Hes an ignorant child who thinks he has life figured out and says "CTS!" like its a boy scout badge.
